Israel-Palestine Conflict

[Ashutosh Lokhande]

looks like 1 jew > 10 muslims

 

[rock127]

looks like 1 jew > 10 muslims

More like 1 Jew > 1000 Muslims.

Malaysian PM admitted few million Jews(Jews population is just <14 Million) Rule the world and 1.3 Billion Muslims.

BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | Malaysia defends speech on Jews

Mahathir Mohamad's opening speech at a summit of Muslim leaders in the Malaysian city of Putrajaya on Thursday has been condemned around the world.

The Muslims will forever be oppressed and dominated by the Europeans and the Jews.

Jews Rule The World Says Malaysian Prime Minister

 

[rizwan78]

so for Israeli terrorists were only manage to done the damage through areal bombing, every time they tried to enter gaza through land it ends up huge loss for there super duper army, and every time when they lose there soldiers, they started to shell on innocent civilians, it just shows how cowered these ba$tard are

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

Why Don’t I Criticize Israel? : : Sam Harris

I was going to do a podcast on a series of questions, but I got so many questions on the same topic that I think I'm just going to do a single response here, and we'll do the #AskMeAnything next time.

The question I've now received in many forms goes something like this: Why is it that you never criticize Israel? Why is it that you never criticize Judaism? Why is it that you always take the side of the Israelis over that of the Palestinians?

Now, this is an incredibly boring and depressing question for a variety of reasons. The first, is that I have criticized both Israel and Judaism. What seems to have upset many people is that I've kept some sense of proportion. There are something like 15 million Jews on earth at this moment; there are a hundred times as many Muslims. I've debated rabbis who, when I have assumed that they believe in a God that can hear our prayers, they stop me mid-sentence and say, "Why would you think that I believe in a God who can hear prayers?" So there are rabbis—conservative rabbis—who believe in a God so elastic as to exclude every concrete claim about Him—and therefore, nearly every concrete demand upon human behavior. And there are millions of Jews, literally millions among the few million who exist, for whom Judaism is very important, and yet they are atheists. They don't believe in God at all. This is actually a position you can hold in Judaism, but it's a total non sequitur in Islam or Christianity.

So, when we're talking about the consequences of irrational beliefs based on scripture, the Jews are the least of the least offenders. But I have said many critical things about Judaism. Let me remind you that parts of Hebrew Bible—books like Leviticus and Exodus and Deuteronomy—are the most repellent, the most sickeningly unethical documents to be found in any religion. They're worse than the Koran. They're worse than any part of the New Testament. But the truth is, most Jews recognize this and don't take these texts seriously. It's simply a fact that most Jews and most Israelis are not guided by scripture—and that's a very good thing.

Of course, there are some who are. There are religious extremists among Jews. Now, I consider these people to be truly dangerous, and their religious beliefs are as divisive and as unwarranted as the beliefs of devout Muslims. But there are far fewer such people.

For those of you who worry that I never say anything critical about Israel: My position on Israel is somewhat paradoxical. There are questions about which I'm genuinely undecided. And there's something in my position, I think, to offend everyone. So, acknowledging how reckless it is to say anything on this topic, I'm nevertheless going to think out loud about it for a few minutes.

I don't think Israel should exist as a Jewish state. I think it is obscene, irrational and unjustifiable to have a state organized around a religion. So I don't celebrate the idea that there's a Jewish homeland in the Middle East. I certainly don't support any Jewish claims to real estate based on the Bible. [Note: Read this paragraph again.]

Though I just said that I don't think Israel should exist as a Jewish state, the justification for such a state is rather easy to find. We need look no further than the fact that the rest of the world has shown itself eager to murder the Jews at almost every opportunity. So, if there were going to be a state organized around protecting members of a single religion, it certainly should be a Jewish state. Now, friends of Israel might consider this a rather tepid defense, but it's the strongest one I've got. I think the idea of a religious state is ultimately untenable. [Note: It is worth observing, however, that Israel isn't "Jewish" in the sense that Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are "Muslim." As my friend Jerry Coyne points out, Israel is actually less religious than the U.S., and its constitution guarantees freedom of religion. Israel is not a theocracy, and one could easily argue that its Jewish identity is more cultural than religious. However, if we ask why the Jews wouldn't move to British Columbia if offered a home there, we can see the role that religion still plays in their thinking.]

Needless to say, in defending its territory as a Jewish state, the Israeli government and Israelis themselves have had to do terrible things. They have, as they are now, fought wars against the Palestinians that have caused massive losses of innocent life. More civilians have been killed in Gaza in the last few weeks than militants. That's not a surprise because Gaza is one of the most densely populated places on Earth. Occupying it, fighting wars in it, is guaranteed to get woman and children and other noncombatants killed. And there's probably little question over the course of fighting multiple wars that the Israelis have done things that amount to war crimes. They have been brutalized by this process—that is, made brutal by it. But that is largely the due to the character of their enemies. [Note: I was not giving Israel a pass to commit war crimes. I was making a point about the realities of living under the continuous threat of terrorism and of fighting multiple wars in a confined space.]

Whatever terrible things the Israelis have done, it is also true to say that they have used more restraint in their fighting against the Palestinians than we—the Americans, or Western Europeans—have used in any of our wars. They have endured more worldwide public scrutiny than any other society has ever had to while defending itself against aggressors. The Israelis simply are held to a different standard. And the condemnation leveled at them by the rest of the world is completely out of proportion to what they have actually done. [Note: I was not saying that because they are more careful than we have been at our most careless, the Israelis are above criticism. War crimes are war crimes.]

It is clear that Israel is losing the PR war and has been for years now. One of the most galling things for outside observers about the current war in Gaza is the disproportionate loss of life on the Palestinian side. This doesn't make a lot of moral sense. Israel built bomb shelters to protect its citizens. The Palestinians built tunnels through which they could carry out terror attacks and kidnap Israelis. Should Israel be blamed for successfully protecting its population in a defensive war? I don't think so. [Note: I was not suggesting that the deaths of Palestinian noncombatants are anything less than tragic. But if retaliating against Hamas is bound to get innocents killed, and the Israelis manage to protect their own civilians in the meantime, the loss of innocent life on the Palestinian side is guaranteed to be disproportionate.]

But there is no way to look at the images coming out Gaza—especially of infants and toddlers riddled by shrapnel—and think that this is anything other than a monstrous evil. Insofar as the Israelis are the agents of this evil, it seems impossible to support them. And there is no question that the Palestinians have suffered terribly for decades under the occupation. This is where most critics of Israel appear to be stuck. They see these images, and they blame Israel for killing and maiming babies. They see the occupation, and they blame Israel for making Gaza a prison camp. I would argue that this is a kind of moral illusion, borne of a failure to look at the actual causes of this conflict, as well as of a failure to understand the intentions of the people on either side of it. [Note: I was not saying that the horror of slain children is a moral illusion; nor was I minimizing the suffering of the Palestinians under the occupation. I was claiming that Israel is not primarily to blame for all this suffering.]

The truth is that there is an obvious, undeniable, and hugely consequential moral difference between Israel and her enemies. The Israelis are surrounded by people who have explicitly genocidal intentions towards them. The charter of Hamas is explicitly genocidal. It looks forward to a time, based on Koranic prophesy, when the earth itself will cry out for Jewish blood, where the trees and the stones will say "O Muslim, there's a Jew hiding behind me. Come and kill him." This is a political document. We are talking about a government that was voted into power by a majority of the Palestinians. [Note: Yes, I know that not every Palestinian supports Hamas, but enough do to have brought them to power. Hamas is not a fringe group.]

The discourse in the Muslim world about Jews is utterly shocking. Not only is there Holocaust denial—there's Holocaust denial that then asserts that we will do it for real if given the chance. The only thing more obnoxious than denying the Holocaust is to say that it should have happened; it didn't happen, but if we get the chance, we will accomplish it. There are children's shows that teach five-year-olds about the glories of martyrdom and about the necessity of killing Jews.

And this gets to the heart of the moral difference between Israel and her enemies. And this is something I discussed in The End of Faith. To see this moral difference, you have to ask what each side would do if they had the power to do it.

What would the Jews do to the Palestinians if they could do anything they wanted? Well, we know the answer to that question, because they can do more or less anything they want. The Israeli army could kill everyone in Gaza tomorrow. So what does that mean? Well, it means that, when they drop a bomb on a beach and kill four Palestinian children, as happened last week, this is almost certainly an accident. They're not targeting children. They could target as many children as they want. Every time a Palestinian child dies, Israel edges ever closer to becoming an international pariah. So the Israelis take great pains not to kill children and other noncombatants. [Note: The word "so" in the previous sentence was regrettable and misleading. I didn't mean to suggest that safeguarding its reputation abroad would be the only (or even primary) reason for Israel to avoid killing children. However, the point stands: Even if you want to attribute the basest motives to Israel, it is clearly in her self-interest not to kill Palestinian children.]

Now, is it possible that some Israeli soldiers go berserk under pressure and wind up shooting into crowds of rock-throwing children? Of course. You will always find some soldiers acting this way in the middle of a war. But we know that this isn't the general intent of Israel. We know the Israelis do not want to kill non-combatants, because they could kill as many as they want, and they're not doing it.

What do we know of the Palestinians? What would the Palestinians do to the Jews in Israel if the power imbalance were reversed? Well, they have told us what they would do. For some reason, Israel's critics just don't want to believe the worst about a group like Hamas, even when it declares the worst of itself. We've already had a Holocaust and several other genocides in the 20th century. People are capable of committing genocide. When they tell us they intend to commit genocide, we should listen. There is every reason to believe that the Palestinians would kill all the Jews in Israel if they could. Would every Palestinian support genocide? Of course not. But vast numbers of them—and of Muslims throughout the world—would. Needless to say, the Palestinians in general, not just Hamas, have a history of targeting innocent noncombatants in the most shocking ways possible. They've blown themselves up on buses and in restaurants. They've massacred teenagers. They've murdered Olympic athletes. They now shoot rockets indiscriminately into civilian areas. And again, the charter of their government in Gaza explicitly tells us that they want to annihilate the Jews—not just in Israel but everywhere. [Note: Again, I realize that not all Palestinians support Hamas. Nor am I discounting the degree to which the occupation, along with collateral damage suffered in war, has fueled Palestinian rage. But Palestinian terrorism (and Muslim anti-Semitism) is what has made peaceful coexistence thus far impossible.]

The truth is that everything you need to know about the moral imbalance between Israel and her enemies can be understood on the topic of human shields. Who uses human shields? Well, Hamas certainly does. They shoot their rockets from residential neighborhoods, from beside schools, and hospitals, and mosques. Muslims in other recent conflicts, in Iraq and elsewhere, have also used human shields. They have laid their rifles on the shoulders of their own children and shot from behind their bodies.

Consider the moral difference between using human shields and being deterred by them. That is the difference we're talking about. The Israelis and other Western powers are deterred, however imperfectly, by the Muslim use of human shields in these conflicts, as we should be. It is morally abhorrent to kill noncombatants if you can avoid it. It's certainly abhorrent to shoot through the bodies of children to get at your adversary. But take a moment to reflect on how contemptible this behavior is. And understand how cynical it is. The Muslims are acting on the assumption—the knowledge, in fact—that the infidels with whom they fight, the very people whom their religion does nothing but vilify, will be deterred by their use of Muslim human shields. They consider the Jews the spawn of apes and pigs—and yet they rely on the fact that they don't want to kill Muslim noncombatants. [Note: The term "Muslims" in this paragraph means "Muslim combatants" of the sort that Western forces have encountered in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere. The term "jihadists" would have been too narrow, but I was not suggesting that all Muslims support the use of human shields or are anti-Semitic, at war with the West, etc.]

Now imagine reversing the roles here. Imagine how fatuous—indeed comical it would be—for the Israelis to attempt to use human shields to deter the Palestinians. Some claim that they have already done this. There are reports that Israeli soldiers have occasionally put Palestinian civilians in front of them as they've advanced into dangerous areas. That's not the use of human shields we're talking about. It's egregious behavior. No doubt it constitutes a war crime. But Imagine the Israelis holding up their own women and children as human shields. Of course, that would be ridiculous. The Palestinians are trying to kill everyone. Killing women and children is part of the plan. Reversing the roles here produces a grotesque Monty Python skit.

If you're going to talk about the conflict in the Middle East, you have to acknowledge this difference. I don't think there's any ethical disparity to be found anywhere that is more shocking or consequential than this.

And the truth is, this isn't even the worst that jihadists do. Hamas is practically a moderate organization, compared to other jihadist groups. There are Muslims who have blown themselves up in crowds of children—again, Muslim children—just to get at the American soldiers who were handing out candy to them. They have committed suicide bombings, only to send another bomber to the hospital to await the casualities—where they then blow up all the injured along with the doctors and nurses trying to save their lives.

Every day that you could read about an Israeli rocket gone astray or Israeli soldiers beating up an innocent teenager, you could have read about ISIS in Iraq crucifying people on the side of the road, Christians and Muslims. Where is the outrage in the Muslim world and on the Left over these crimes? Where are the demonstrations, 10,000 or 100,000 deep, in the capitals of Europe against ISIS? If Israel kills a dozen Palestinians by accident, the entire Muslim world is inflamed. God forbid you burn a Koran, or write a novel vaguely critical of the faith. And yet Muslims can destroy their own societies—and seek to destroy the West—and you don't hear a peep. [Note: Of course, I'm aware that many Muslims condemn groups like ISIS. My point is that we don't see massive protests against global jihadism—even though it targets Muslims more than anyone else—and we do see such protests over things like the Danish cartoons.]

So, it seems to me, that you have to side with Israel here. You have one side which if it really could accomplish its aims would simply live peacefully with its neighbors, and you have another side which is seeking to implement a seventh century theocracy in the Holy Land. There's no peace to be found between those incompatible ideas. That doesn't mean you can't condemn specific actions on the part of the Israelis. And, of course, acknowledging the moral disparity between Israel and her enemies doesn't give us any solution to the problem of Israel's existence in the Middle East. [Note: I was not suggesting that Israel's actions are above criticism or that their recent incursion into Gaza was necessarily justified. Nor was I saying that the status quo, wherein the Palestinians remain stateless, should be maintained. And I certainly wasn't expressing support for the building of settlements on contested land (as I made clear below). By "siding with Israel," I am simply recognizing that they are not the primary aggressors in this conflict. They are, rather, responding to aggression—and at a terrible cost.]

Again, granted, there's some percentage of Jews who are animated by their own religious hysteria and their own prophesies. Some are awaiting the Messiah on contested land. Yes, these people are willing to sacrifice the blood of their own children for the glory of God. But, for the most part, they are not representative of the current state of Judaism or the actions of the Israeli government. And it is how Israel deals with these people—their own religious lunatics—that will determine whether they can truly hold the moral high ground. And Israel can do a lot more than it has to disempower them. It can cease to subsidize the delusions of the Ultra-Orthodox, and it can stop building settlements on contested land. [Note: Read that again. And, yes, I understand that not all settlers are Ultra-Orthodox.]

This incompatible religious attachments to this land has made it impossible for Muslims and Jews to negotiate like rational human beings, and it has made it impossible for them to live in peace. But the onus is still more on the side of the Muslims here. Even on their worst day, the Israelis act with greater care and compassion and self-criticism than Muslim combatants have anywhere, ever.

And again, you have to ask yourself, what do these groups want? What would they accomplish if they could accomplish anything? What would the Israelis do if they could do what they want? They would live in peace with their neighbors, if they had neighbors who would live in peace with them. They would simply continue to build out their high tech sector and thrive. [Note: Some might argue that they would do more than this—e.g. steal more Palestinian land. But apart from the influence of Jewish extremism (which I condemn), Israel's continued appropriation of land has more than a little to do with her security concerns. Absent Palestinian terrorism and Muslim anti-Semitism, we could be talking about a "one-state solution," and the settlements would be moot.]

What do groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda and even Hamas want? They want to impose their religious views on the rest of humanity. They want stifle every freedom that decent, educated, secular people care about. This is not a trivial difference. And yet judging from the level of condemnation that Israel now receives, you would think the difference ran the other way.

This kind of confusion puts all of us in danger. This is the great story of our time. For the rest of our lives, and the lives of our children, we are going to be confronted by people who don't want to live peacefully in a secular, pluralistic world, because they are desperate to get to Paradise, and they are willing to destroy the very possibility of human happiness along the way. The truth is, we are all living in Israel. It's just that some of us haven't realized it yet.

 

[rock127]

so for Israeli terrorists were only manage to done the damage through areal bombing, every time they tried to enter gaza through land it ends up huge loss for there super duper army, and every time when they lose there soldiers, they started to shell on innocent civilians, it just shows how cowered these ba$tard are

Pakistan should shut it's mouth before talking on Palestine-Israel since Pakistan has done genocide of 3,000,000 Muslim Bangladeshis and 100,000 Kashmiris mostly civilians and as a fact did Lakhs of rapes of Muslim Bangladeshi and Kashmiri women and children.

Not to forget killings of tens of thousands of Muslim Baloch freedom fighters.

 

[rizwan78]

More like 1 Jew > 1000 Muslims.

Malaysian PM admitted few million Jews(Jews population is just <14 Million) Rule the world and 1.3 Billion Muslims.

BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | Malaysia defends speech on Jews






Jews Rule The World Says Malaysian Prime Minister

Saudia is the biggest problem for all the muslim world, they want to rule the muslim world through wahabi agenda, to achieve this target they will even pay israil to kill all shias, Arabs and Pakistan too are the biggest chamcha of saudia, you know why the ----ing arabs are sillent on gaza massacre, because HAMAS is shia organization supported by Iran, otherwise one bomb can vanish israel and jews from earh, you knows what i am talking about

 

[rizwan78]

Pakistan should shut it's mouth before talking on Palestine-Israel since Pakistan has done genocide of 3,000,000 Muslim Bangladeshis and 100,000 Kashmiris mostly civilians and as a fact did Lakhs of rapes of Muslim Bangladeshi and Kashmiri women and children.

Not to forget killings of tens of thousands of Muslim Baloch freedom fighters.

Stop reading RSS madrassa letrature

 

[rock127]

Saudia is the biggest problem for all the muslim world, they want to rule the muslim world through wahabi agenda, to achieve this target they will even pay israil to kill all shias, Arabs and Pakistan too are the biggest chamcha of saudia, you know why the ----ing arabs are sillent on gaza massacre, because HAMAS is shia organization supported by Iran, otherwise one bomb can vanish israel and jews from earh, you knows what i am talking about

Yes I am 101% aware of the various factions Muslim world has and how the Royal Saudi Pedophile are responsible for it and well backed by US.As per cable leaks Saudis asked US "Kill the Snake(Shias) of Iran". HAMAS is no saint either and wants civilians to die.HAMAS can use billion $$$ aid for welfare money for it's people but using for rockets and tunnels.

US would never allow Israel to be vanished and heavily sided with Saudis against Shias.US has dumped Billion $$$ of weapons and Ammo which needs just few mins of "approval" from US BUT basically US would switch sides anytime it suits it's intrests.

The thing is... Pakistan should see it's own interests and welfare of it's people and not allow Saudis to rule Pakistan.Pakistan has it's hand red with genocide and getting back in return.Pakistan needs to control all the jihadi mindset.The Ummah is a crap and every Muslim country is looking it's own interest.

Jews are one of the MOST ancient people but yet advanced in the civilization but you guys are stuck in 7th century regressive things like Sharia.

 

[rock127]

Stop reading RSS madrassa letrature

Stop using lines of others ie. original is "Stop reading Paki Madrasa literature".

Stop reading Paki books made by jihadis Army.Read the history and see Pakis have their hands red in blood of millions of people and mostly are Muslims.

 

[sydsnyper]

If any secular or muslim twats wonder why civilians are getting killed in Gaza, here is the reason why and how:

IDF Troops Show What It's Like Inside Gaza Homes Rigged With Bombs - Business Insider

One video uploaded to YouTube showed troops at a Palestinian house located near a UN school, which had been rigged up with explosives.

"We went inside, the search dog and I, and we found eight bombs connected to each other," a soldier says. The soldier points out that the house is right by a UN school.

In another video, troops huddle by a civilian home as one of the soldiers points to a bomb by the house and says: "This is a bomb called a Claymore. As you can see Hamas uses the homes of the civilian population and places bombs inside them."

 

[rizwan78]

Yes I am 101% aware of the various factions Muslim world has and how the Royal Saudi Pedophile are responsible for it and well backed by US.As per cable leaks Saudis asked US "Kill the Snake(Shias) of Iran". HAMAS is no saint either and wants civilians to die.HAMAS can use billion $$$ aid for welfare money for it's people but using for rockets and tunnels.

US would never allow Israel to be vanished and heavily sided with Saudis against Shias.US has dumped Billion $$$ of weapons and Ammo which needs just few mins of "approval" from US BUT basically US would switch sides anytime it suits it's intrests.

The thing is... Pakistan should see it's own interests and welfare of it's people and not allow Saudis to rule Pakistan.Pakistan has it's hand red with genocide and getting back in return.Pakistan needs to control all the jihadi mindset.The Ummah is a crap and every Muslim country is looking it's own interest.

Jews are one of the MOST ancient people but yet advanced in the civilization but you guys are stuck in 7th century regressive things like Sharia.

Jihad is the only way to get rid of those scums no matter who are the bully, muslims or infidels, so when you say jihadi = terrorist you are absolutely understands it wrong, and when you say sharia it dose not mean Sharia is wrong, for example talibans, and 99% of our fake molvis believe and even in saudia where sharia has been implemented, according to the sharia rule punishment of the thief is to cut his/her hand, yes this is written in Holy book Quran too but it is clearly mentioned that this will only implimentable when govt provides all the facilities to its countrymen freely, thers was also written hundreds of tims in Quran that first you should know the reason then make the decision, might be possible that the thief wants to feed his/her child, i can give you hundreds of example like this, but you know how badly taliban wants to impose these laws on poor and needy peoples, even in saudia most of the time these laws are implemented on kharjees only, so there is big difference in Quran understanding
I know there is no enamity between us and iran too, and they are stabbing Saudis back just like they stabbed saddam to attack on Kuwait

 

[rizwan78]

Stop using lines of others ie. original is "Stop reading Paki Madrasa literature".

Stop reading Paki books made by jihadis Army.Read the history and see Pakis have their hands red in blood of millions of people and mostly are Muslims.

Are you with Israel or with Iran ? If you are with iran it mean Indians are with HAMAS, and if you are with Iran then why are you celebrating at ever death of your brother country agent HAMAS? This is the proof of your RSS tabanatic mindset

 

[Known_Unknown]

A more accurate version would be:
Your landlord kills some members of your family, then you and the rest of your family are given some rooms in another house. These rooms are made available to you by moving the previous occupants of the room to other rooms of the same house (and thus making the other rooms more crowded etc). Now you have children and the children of the other children rooms, harass and try to kill your children everyday.

Anyway, what I'm saying is Palestine launching rockets and what not, into Israel will only strengthen Israel in the long run.
And people crying "Palestine is a victim, Palestine is a victim. All Israelis are foreigners " are not providing any solutions either. Israelis are gonna stay there, irrespective of all the fits that Palestine will throw. Hell, we could use the European invader argument and make all Europid people of the Americas, return back to Europe, by your logic.

Don't be so sure. Israel exists only because it is a US surrogate-without US diplomatic, military and financial support, it would have collapsed long ago.

Unfortunately Israel has repeatedly violated international law, committed egregious human rights abuses time and time again, and refuses to even acknowledge a two state solution, which was to be implemented under the aegis of the same UN resolution that created Israel itself. It has continued the occupation of the West Bank since the 1960's and has little by little, nibbled away at Palestinian territory, It has built walls to split contiguous zones in the occupied territories to restrict free movement of goods and people and also to thwart any semblance of a discussion about a viable Palestinian state.

Israel is an expansionist power which seeks to dominate the region through territorial conquest and getting rid of the Palestinians by making deals with Jordan, Lebanon etc to accept the refugees. The following map vividly illustrates who the "victim" really is:

The people that are cheering here for Israel are complete morons. Such blatant expansionism is against the basic articles of the UN Charter itself and it is the reason why the whole world, including even the European nations, condemn Israel.

 

[SajeevJino]

seems like everytime 4 israeli soldiers are killed in action, isreali air force bombs the crap out of densely population areas to kill at least 40 civilians. UN, US, EU need to step up and propose to deploy peace keeping ground troops in both israel and gaza.

Truth is Israel always keep his hands down ..if anyone disturbed aftermath is so massive

Unlike India Israeli soldiers are ready to retaliate against any Terrorist Activities

you English peoples don't know the Pain of Soldiers killed by Terrorists but govt still Handshaking to our Enemies.

in the last line looks like Every country acts how India Acting against Terrorism .if Fights back against terrorism they should be condemn through UN

I know How much pain I have when 26/11 happens and when Baki soldiers beheaded our Soldiers

you never know what is pain is..?

 

[SajeevJino]

so for Israeli terrorists were only manage to done the damage through areal bombing, every time they tried to enter gaza through land it ends up huge loss for there super duper army, and every time when they lose there soldiers, they started to shell on innocent civilians, it just shows how cowered these ba$tard are

The main objective to the IAF is striking Rocket launch sites only sometimes the Special forces target designate the ground nearby Air Wing Strike the target

unlike ground invasion it's full and full of Destruction of Smuggling Tunnels and killing Hamas Terrorists.

one more Hamas is always hiding behind civilians and children's to fight against IDF soldiers face to face ..a normal Terrorist Agenda both Baki sponsor terrorist and even the Baki prophet Bin Laden too

they always keep their Barracks as Hospitals and Schools not to mention mosques everyone knows the truth

most of the Israeli Military commanders even the IDF Chief Benny is in Gaza Right now ..wondering where is Hamas Commanders..?

 

[SajeevJino]

Saudia is the biggest problem for all the muslim world, they want to rule the muslim world through wahabi agenda, to achieve this target they will even pay israil to kill all shias, Arabs and Pakistan too are the biggest chamcha of saudia, you know why the ----ing arabs are sillent on gaza massacre, because HAMAS is shia organization supported by Iran, otherwise one bomb can vanish israel and jews from earh, you knows what i am talking about

Saudi is the God of Bakistan everyone knows that.. Most of the terrorist money funded from KSA

if you still want to blame KSA ..nuke it down and come to Israel


All I know Muslim groups are most cruel groups can compared to Terrorists


they did most anti human Activities since 1950

 

[sydsnyper]

I've seen this false pic shared by so many fly-by-night humanitarians and it is an outright lie.

There was NO COUNTRY by the name of palestine to begin with. The region outlined was a part of what was then called Trans Jordan. It was controlled by Brits and had a significant jewish population (these were mostly people who had escaped the Spanish inquisition and settled around Jerusalem and Galille).

Through the 1800s to the 1920s jews were persecuted in east europe, most of the times by entire governments, and they were turned back by EVERY F*****G country or government there was. Try to imagine yourself in their place and what would you do to find a home for you and your family.

Anyways, emotions aside, this triggered the birth of zionism which culminated in jews wanting to go back to the roots of their birth, which is what we call the modern israel. After the Ottomans were destroyed in WW1, the area came under the control of the British and this helped the jews to bring in their persecuted folk.....and not taking any sympathy to their plight the arabs started rioting and massacring the emancipated refugees !!!

Without going into too much of history any more, this is what led to the jews mandating a land of their own from a BRITISH run piece of desert to form a country of their own, ISRAEL !!!

This is where the Arabs go on to say that the British were occupiers of the land they gave to the jews and it belonged to the Arabs before them..... and I say to such people that, by the extension of their own logic, the same land and much of the middle east originally belonged to the jews and hence it is their right to setup a homeland in Israel.

Don't be so sure. Israel exists only because it is a US surrogate-without US diplomatic, military and financial support, it would have collapsed long ago.

Unfortunately Israel has repeatedly violated international law, committed egregious human rights abuses time and time again, and refuses to even acknowledge a two state solution, which was to be implemented under the aegis of the same UN resolution that created Israel itself. It has continued the occupation of the West Bank since the 1960's and has little by little, nibbled away at Palestinian territory, It has built walls to split contiguous zones in the occupied territories to restrict free movement of goods and people and also to thwart any semblance of a discussion about a viable Palestinian state.

Israel is an expansionist power which seeks to dominate the region through territorial conquest and getting rid of the Palestinians by making deals with Jordan, Lebanon etc to accept the refugees. The following map vividly illustrates who the "victim" really is:

The people that are cheering here for Israel are complete morons. Such blatant expansionism is against the basic articles of the UN Charter itself and it is the reason why the whole world, including even the European nations, condemn Israel.

 

[sydsnyper]

What about your 'brave' Hamas whose leader lives in a palatial house somewhere not in gaza or the west bank, has accounts in swiss banks and who uses civilian homes for shooting off rockets and entrances for their tunnels.

so for Israeli terrorists were only manage to done the damage through areal bombing, every time they tried to enter gaza through land it ends up huge loss for there super duper army, and every time when they lose there soldiers, they started to shell on innocent civilians, it just shows how cowered these ba$tard are

 

[sydsnyper]

 

[rock127]

Are you with Israel or with Iran ? If you are with iran it mean Indians are with HAMAS, and if you are with Iran then why are you celebrating at ever death of your brother country agent HAMAS? This is the proof of your RSS tabanatic mindset

We are not like Pakistan who has habit of siding with anyone who is a "muslim" even if those "muslim" are on the wrong side. We have INTERESTS in both Iran and Israel and have to balance it.India has good relations with most Muslim countries and it really irks you.Your "Ummah" is a big crap and all Muslim countries are also pursuing their own interests like Saudis.Lot of Muslim countries are silent on this issue since their own hands are red in blood of their own Muslims.

HAMAS is killing it's own civilians and they are exposed big time. We are not celebrating any death specially of civilians.

Also get outside of "You RSS You RSS You RSS" stupid rhetoric whenever you run out of any logical argument... it's India and we are not so JAHIL and indoctrinated like Pakis.