Infrastructure and Energy Sector

[Azaad]

Go through this video to understand that

If those countries in the Sahel stop selling to France at cheap rates or not at all , does that translate to mean France can't source Uranium from anywhere in the world ?

 

[omaebakabaka]

We cannot go back to colonial times for everything. Are they paying nothing for the Uranium bought? Then the countries should stop selling Uranium to them. Why are they selling uranium at low prices? They could sell it to us for higher prices. But as of now they are mostly energy independent due to the majority nuclear power in their energy mix. And France’s government budget is larger than our budget for a country that is so much smaller than us. So they are secure, for now.

Yes, almost nothing and finally Niger seems to have stopped. Exploitation is taking advantage of weak people/countries/conditions and so on not bounding to any commonly understood principles in human domain. France isn't the first or last but in modern times after ww2, they are one of the worst ones. France had a declining nuclear industry. Its a small country with little population, China is a scale to talk about and US. Next ios what Luxemburg or Switzerland to compare against?

 

[omaebakabaka]

All that is true .. but the cost of raw uranium is miniscule compared to the cost of the reactor itself as well as enrichment which PWRs need.

Anything that you don't have supply at raw material puts you at risk at some point when supply chain or any of the parameters get disrupted. It is the opposite of being independent, what is independent about it? THey are squaling like pigs when they have difficult time to exploit going forward.

 

[karn]

Anything that you don't have supply at raw material puts you at risk at some point when supply chain or any of the parameters get disrupted. It is the opposite of being independent, what is independent about it? THey are squaling like pigs when they have difficult time to exploit going forward.

The French have this jhumla of independent nuclear power and weapons . So for them niger was their "own" uranium source .
On a commercial basis they can easily buy uranium from Australia or Canada .
Getting cut off from "colonial" uranium will only cause a slight bump in energy cost . But a loss of niger is a strategic loss for their nuclear program.

 

[omaebakabaka]

The French have this jhumla of independent nuclear power and weapons . So for them niger was their "own" uranium source .
On a commercial basis they can easily buy uranium from Australia or Canada .
Getting cut off from "colonial" uranium will only cause a slight bump in energy cost . But a loss of niger is a strategic loss for their nuclear program.

Correct, nothing independent though....that is my point especially Uranium and related nuclear materials are limited in availability vs coal and oil and so on.....also France isn't constructing any new plants as far as I know. Nuclear should never drive 100% energy needs and its kinda stupid to drive 70%....there are lot of side effects. One or two unfortuante accidents and small countries are toast.

 

[RoaringTigerHiddenDragon]

Go through this video to understand that

i had no idea about this exploitation. Truly bad. They need to move to market based trade. What is the UN or African Union doing? South Africa takes Israel to ICC but not France for this exploitation? African leaders are crooks themselves and facilitate the exploitation just like with the slave trade during colonial times.
Wonder why China has not stepped in to buy resources from them? Probably because they have an arrangement with France to keep supporting china in EU business in return for ignoring French exploits in Africa.
But, for us, we need to be pragmatic in foreign policy. France is a reliable supplier of defense technology that we need to ward off Chinese threats, until we become aatma nirbhar in fighter jets, A2A missiles, jet engines and submarines. After that, India should step in to decolonize these nations.

 

[Varoon2]

i had no idea about this exploitation. Truly bad T

It is not talked about in the mainstream media, you largely have to rely on articles and videos like this one. And notice, as a corollary, those countries are not covered in much detail, unless a crisis develops, as in Niger most recently. It becomes much clearer as to why India is scrutinised and criticised for every issue under the sun, including how history is written, the content of T.V commercials, and whether transgenders face equality of opportunity when they apply to the police force! Sheesh. Things would be different if India's resources were owned by one colonial power or another, and even more different if India were divided into 14 countries, each one of them with their resources and labour under the control of said colonial powers.

 

[sameer3694]

i had no idea about this exploitation. Truly bad. They need to move to market based trade. What is the UN or African Union doing? South Africa takes Israel to ICC but not France for this exploitation? African leaders are crooks themselves and facilitate the exploitation just like with the slave trade during colonial times.
Wonder why China has not stepped in to buy resources from them? Probably because they have an arrangement with France to keep supporting china in EU business in return for ignoring French exploits in Africa.
But, for us, we need to be pragmatic in foreign policy. France is a reliable supplier of defense technology that we need to ward off Chinese threats, until we become aatma nirbhar in fighter jets, A2A missiles, jet engines and submarines. After that, India should step in to decolonize these nations.

France does do a lot of exploitation through its FranceAfrique connections and CFA Franc currency. France roughly gets 20% of its uranium from Niger at dirt cheap or throwaway prices. Even Russia has stepped in and is taking out vast amounts of gold from Mali.

But at the end of the day it's the African elites and dictators that enable all this, most of these countries are tribal and have no sense of any civilizational pride or identity, always up for sale for the highest bidder, whether its chinkie, ruskies or euros. IMO, India honestly should do the same, we should be least bothered about all this decolonization stuff, if they are offering themselves and their minerals to highest bidder why not take it.

And South Africa honestly is a basket case, it's a failing country having power blackouts as bad as Pakistan. They are doing all the Jhumla to divert from local issues.

 

[Varoon2]

India may have to do this, but guess what? If India emulates the behaviour of the European countries, the US, China and Russia, it will be roundly criticised, and face scrutiny from the media and human rights organisations and sundry NGOs. To a degree considerably more than those greater, and older, offenders! We saw evidence of this a decade or more back, when there were a slew of articles purporting to expose India's supposedly colonial behaviour in Ethiopia.

Probably the best approach for India, is to develop a strong asbestos suit, and just carry on, with ethical self interest as far as possible.

 

[MuffleParch]

 

[slayingheaven]

How? Are they gonna go for the fabled 3-stage nuclear reactor program? Its worthless if it depends on uranium imports. Also, they need to look at more units per Plant. Like Japan or Korea, clustering upto 10 per Plant can be viable and reduces need to scout for more locations as so much NIMBYism here due to retards. IPWR-900 at 10 per plant can lead to 9GW and 10 such plants can be 90GW. Need atleast 500GW by 2070 or so instead of Solar Power Jhumla if we want to Energy Intensive Industries like Semi-Conductor Fabs or EV Grid.

 

[Azaad]

If they get to even 30% of the target by 2047 it'd be cause for celebration. We were supposed to achieve 10 GW by 2000 . 24 yrs on we're still at 8 GW.

 

[LondonParisTokyo]

How? Are they gonna go for the fabled 3-stage nuclear reactor program? Its worthless if it depends on uranium imports. Also, they need to look at more units per Plant. Like Japan or Korea, clustering upto 10 per Plant can be viable and reduces need to scout for more locations as so much NIMBYism here due to retards. IPWR-900 at 10 per plant can lead to 9GW and 10 such plants can be 90GW. Need atleast 500GW by 2070 or so instead of Solar Power Jhumla if we want to Energy Intensive Industries like Semi-Conductor Fabs or EV Grid.

Nuclear can pay for electrified rail, semiconductor, whatever you want. Hopefully they build 20 units per plant

 

[nongaddarliberal]

 

[jai jaganath]

https://www.financialexpress.com/business/railways-govt-may-shelve-rs-2-trn-freight-corridor-plan-3448183/

 

[Blademaster]

https://www.financialexpress.com/business/railways-govt-may-shelve-rs-2-trn-freight-corridor-plan-3448183/

Goes to show that GoI still adheres to fiscal and prudent financial planning when it comes to infrastructure. GoI does not want to engage in needless and irresponsible non-financial projects that would only drain the coffers of India and do nothing long term.

 

[Freedom Thru Firepower]

 

[The Juggernaut]

 

[FalconSlayers]

India does everything right except urban planning and maintenance. People can call me a clown for saying this but QoL in Tier-2 cities of India >>> Tier-1 turdholes.

 

[Concard]

India does everything right except urban planning and maintenance. People can call me a clown for saying this but QoL in Tier-2 cities of India >>> Tier-1 turdholes.

The only solution I see going forward is to create new cities each with an area of 2,500 sq.kms. This huge city should be rich in greenery, should be planned keeping public transport in mind, on the outskirts solar power plants to reduce electricity transmission infrastructure, rain water harvesting everywhere, water treatment plants, sewage treatment plants, zonal planning like making sure there is a space for super market, school, hospital like how we see in some European cities. They should completely abandon selling small individual plots to people who build violating building code. Instead, residential societies should be encouraged with strict planning. Land for industry should be ready and everything digitized.

I hope we take inspiration from Singapore and build a city with an area of 2,500 sq.kms. Where ever this city gets built nearby tier 1 city or cities will decongest. This will allow us to rip apart our old Tier 1 cities which are presently choking under congestion and pollution to be rebuilt. This is the only solution I see right now. Our cities also need modern governance model instead of the stupid model we have right now where nothing gets done. Urban planning is crucial for us to catapult to great power status.