Indian Air Force: News & Discussions

Prashant12

Senior Member
Joined
Aug 9, 2014
Messages
3,027
Likes
15,002
Country flag
$10-billion fighter deal hits tech-transfer air pocket

For top contractors, 49% equity a hurdle; Rafale may get follow-on order

NEW DELHI, NOVEMBER 6:
India’s $10-billion single-engine fighter jet deal is believed to have hit a stumbling block over the contentious issue of transfer of technology (ToT) and equity participation. This is while negotiations are on for the purchase of more Rafale jets from France.

The two main contenders for the deal — Lockheed Martin and SAAB — have made it clear to the Defence Ministry that they will not go in for a complete transfer of technology (ToT) with 49 per cent equity participation in the joint ventures that they have inked with their respective Indian partners, sources told BusinessLine.

Under the defence foreign direct investment rules, global OEMs can invest more than 49 per cent with prior government approval. However, the fighter-jet deal has to be executed under the new ‘Strategic Partnership’ (SP) policy, and as per the norms laid out in this policy, it is the Indian entity that will have a controlling stake with 51 per cent.


The Defence Ministry is looking to acquire at least 100 of these jets for the Indian Air Force (IAF). While the US’ Lockheed Martin has offered the advanced F-16 Block 70, Swedish defence major SAAB has presented its single-engine multi-role Gripen E for the programme.

Lockheed Martin and SAAB have also joined hands with Tata Advance Defence Systems Ltd and the Adani Group, respectively, to design, develop and produce the warplanes in India under the ‘Make in India’ programme.

The issue of proprietary technology was also raised by US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson during his visit last month. He made it clear that ToT will come for a price.

The government is now looking at a follow-on order to buy more Rafale jets, which will be in addition to the 36 bought in September last year for $8.9 billion. The IAF is also keen on buying more of these warplanes, according to sources.

The decision to buy more Rafale jets from Dassault Aviation is likely to be announced during the visit of French President Emmanuel Macron in December, sources added.

However, the sources said, India has already informed the French that “not a single” Rafale will be bought in flyaway mode — they will be built in the Dhirubhai Ambani Aerospace Park, run by Reliance Aerospace Ltd and Dassault Aviation in the Mihan Special Economic Zone in Nagpur.


Dassault Aviation Chief Eric Trappier had recently said, in France, that the company is in talks with India for more orders.

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com...ts-techtransfer-air-pocket/article9945734.ece
 

Kay

Senior Member
Joined
Feb 15, 2014
Messages
1,029
Likes
1,354
Country flag
$10-billion fighter deal hits tech-transfer air pocket

For top contractors, 49% equity a hurdle; Rafale may get follow-on order

NEW DELHI, NOVEMBER 6:
India’s $10-billion single-engine fighter jet deal is believed to have hit a stumbling block over the contentious issue of transfer of technology (ToT) and equity participation. This is while negotiations are on for the purchase of more Rafale jets from France.

The two main contenders for the deal — Lockheed Martin and SAAB — have made it clear to the Defence Ministry that they will not go in for a complete transfer of technology (ToT) with 49 per cent equity participation in the joint ventures that they have inked with their respective Indian partners, sources told BusinessLine.

Under the defence foreign direct investment rules, global OEMs can invest more than 49 per cent with prior government approval. However, the fighter-jet deal has to be executed under the new ‘Strategic Partnership’ (SP) policy, and as per the norms laid out in this policy, it is the Indian entity that will have a controlling stake with 51 per cent.


The Defence Ministry is looking to acquire at least 100 of these jets for the Indian Air Force (IAF). While the US’ Lockheed Martin has offered the advanced F-16 Block 70, Swedish defence major SAAB has presented its single-engine multi-role Gripen E for the programme.

Lockheed Martin and SAAB have also joined hands with Tata Advance Defence Systems Ltd and the Adani Group, respectively, to design, develop and produce the warplanes in India under the ‘Make in India’ programme.

The issue of proprietary technology was also raised by US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson during his visit last month. He made it clear that ToT will come for a price.

The government is now looking at a follow-on order to buy more Rafale jets, which will be in addition to the 36 bought in September last year for $8.9 billion. The IAF is also keen on buying more of these warplanes, according to sources.

The decision to buy more Rafale jets from Dassault Aviation is likely to be announced during the visit of French President Emmanuel Macron in December, sources added.

However, the sources said, India has already informed the French that “not a single” Rafale will be bought in flyaway mode — they will be built in the Dhirubhai Ambani Aerospace Park, run by Reliance Aerospace Ltd and Dassault Aviation in the Mihan Special Economic Zone in Nagpur.


Dassault Aviation Chief Eric Trappier had recently said, in France, that the company is in talks with India for more orders.

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com...ts-techtransfer-air-pocket/article9945734.ece
Hope this deal is held up for 1 more year...once election mode sets in six months from 2019, no deal will happen. Also after elections, we will have more than 20 Tejas...deal would invite severe criticism. Lockheed is trying it's best to push in this deal in this window.
 

sthf

Senior Member
Joined
Nov 21, 2016
Messages
2,271
Likes
5,327
Country flag
@sbm Read your article about IAF's declining squadron strength. Well researched, well written piece.

Do you think that a couple of squadrons of BAE-HAL Advanced Hawks can provide interim relief or IAF is better off waiting for MK1A & MK2 to enter production?
 

Kshithij

DharmaYoddha
Senior Member
Joined
Jul 25, 2017
Messages
2,242
Likes
1,961
Hope this deal is held up for 1 more year...once election mode sets in six months from 2019, no deal will happen. Also after elections, we will have more than 20 Tejas...deal would invite severe criticism. Lockheed is trying it's best to push in this deal in this window.
Modi is not foolish to go with Lockheed's push. Tejas has already been completed and additional technology of radar, BVR, EW etc have either passed phase 1 and are in further upgrades or are in advanced stages of development. Whether planes are made or not is irrelevant. The question is - do we have the technology to make it AS AND WHEN WE NEED.

That is where ToT comes in. This was something I have been telling. It was only expected that such a deal will be kept on hold
 

lcafanboy

Senior Member
Joined
Mar 24, 2013
Messages
5,814
Likes
37,295
Country flag
Modi is not foolish to go with Lockheed's push. Tejas has already been completed and additional technology of radar, BVR, EW etc have either passed phase 1 and are in further upgrades or are in advanced stages of development. Whether planes are made or not is irrelevant. The question is - do we have the technology to make it AS AND WHEN WE NEED.

That is where ToT comes in. This was something I have been telling. It was only expected that such a deal will be kept on hold
Lockheed Martin will be kept dangling until US is ready to provide India f-35 s with some TOT. Until then India is enjoying trolling uncle.

Meanwhile French have smelled the opportunity if single engine Fighter is cancelled so are helping India with improved LCA Mk1A.
 

Global Defence

New threads

Articles

Top