sreenevasachha
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Drdo new assault rifle
Check out small arms thread baba ji has explained it there already
Find a 7.62x51mm rifle under 3.4kg that has a barrel length of 16" or above?4 kg! It weights more than ak47 , the western counterparts weights almost half..
I thought it's 7.62x39Find a 7.62x51mm rifle under 3.4kg that has a barrel length of 16" or above?
Ergonomics/ Aesthetics can be improved but the stats are comparable with any 7.62x51mm rifle that uses Long Stroke operation.
MCIWS base a banaya hy Urgham... The similarities are clear
But forgot to include the one thing they had got right in the MCIWS design - a freaking mag well that is.MCIWS base a banaya hy Urgham... The similarities are clear
that hand guard is shorter than my temper.View attachment 235699
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DRDO launches indigenous assault rifle 'Ugram' for armed forces
The rifle, with a calibre of 7.62 x 51 mm, has been designed, developed, and manufactured in collaboration with a private industry partner.aninews.in
The MCIWS is a short stroke gun. As is this one I feel.Is this a short-stroke gas operated or long-stroke gas operated? The earlier rifle was long-stroke rifle it would have never worked out for such a large caliber. All big players offer either Short-stroke or DI.
at its core it's just another AK fork, so it's long stroke gas piston onlyIs this a short-stroke gas operated or long-stroke gas operated? The earlier rifle was long-stroke rifle it would have never worked out for such a large caliber. All big players offer either Short-stroke or DI.
IF it's a development over the MCIWS, it should retain the short stroke system.at its core it's just another AK fork, so it's long stroke gas piston only
that's some brain farts duhIF it's a development over the MCIWS, it should retain the short stroke system.
View attachment 235852India Unveils New Indigenous Assault Rifle ‘Ugram’ for Armed Forces - GKToday
The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) has developed and launched a new 7.62mm caliber assault rifle named ‘Ugram’ intended as a standard-iswww.gktoday.in
While in general it's true that MCIWS//AAR has got some striking similarity to SoKorean K-2 rifle but it is still a unique design on its own and in some regards near to INSAS
for example, Trigger Group in the MCIWS//AAR is of Kalashnikov pattern one,makes me think it is taken from INSAS
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Then again its working is somewhat unique (still leaning towards K-2 Rifle but still different),just have a look at this
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So yeah, it's unique design in my view that's taken some elements from this weapon and major design elements from K-2 rifle maybe.
and even first variant of MCIWS was long-stroke gas piston system only, a dovetail shaped cut was made on its bolt carrier to slide in the long stroke gas piston - very similar to what we're seeing now on SIG SAUER NGSW-R "SPEAR" thing (heh, wasn't it ahead of its time) and ONLY when it got forked to that later iteration called 'Advanced Assault Rifle' or AAR - but that name never stuck to it - it got a gas regulator on it and so back then, people started calling it short stroke gas piston and so-so because of that gas regulator but I am still doubtful of it so there's some ambiguity there but my overall observation still makes me think it still was long stroke gas piston only with probably a gas regulator providing adjustment of gas for different calibres because of course it was a multi-calibre mumbo jumbo and perhaps also for accommodating suppressor and thingsBTW this pattern of exposed Camming Pin + Camming Surface that too on its Ejection Port was one of those things i immensely hated about MCIWS//AAR
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Like seriously WTF these are among the critical working mechanisms of a self loading rifle and they are keeping it exposed ? Forget Inrange TV Pattern Mud Tests,it won't be able to tolerate dust or sand accumulation on its bolt carrier in sandy environment of Thar
Imagine designing a firearm in 21st Century and still making such elementary mistake of not keeping working parts or mechanisms sealed and safe from outside gunk oh and yes they aren't even providing a dust cover on its ejection port so making it even worser
If you'd compare it to AR-15 ( has got dust cover and even when dust cover is open its bolt carrier is sealed enough to keep outside stuff away from working parts ) and K-2 (doesn't have dust cover but bolt carrier is sealing its ejection port well enough) this is failing in both way. I would say even AK (or INSAS) is better sealed than this design as at least bolt carrier is effectively covering its camming surfaces sealed.