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An off topic question but its been quite a good amount of time since these new uniforms are released why are only officers and soldiers who put up show like parades and stuff have it but not an average infantryman is their any rules or something?
Most are too lazy to buy the cloth from canteen and get it stiched when then rules aren't enforced the new joines get new uniform only
 

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Who said industry is kept on the table? There are many possibilities:
1. India is trying to stall the negotiations by giving excuses/technicalities but not denying it directly
2. India is seeking something underhand/secretive deal/tech transfer which is well worth the money spent indirectly on something else
3. This is fake news

Remember that Stryker/wheeled IFV is not critical technology and is definitely not something India is having in large numbers. The wheeled IFVs can't go all terrain which is a huge disadvantage. For going on roads, India can simply use MPVs or other heavy armoured trucks which can carry 24-30 soldiers rather than just 7-8 in IFVs. Remember that during battles, one can's just go halfway and then change the car if one finds the roads to be dug up, destroyed, trees fallen down etc.

The wheeled IFVs are useful for NATO for its foreign expeditions under controlled environments with huge diplomatic support. Without the diplomatic support, the wheeled IFVs will be easy targets. This is why Russia, China don't emphasise on wheeled IFVs as they don't have any foreign expedition needs or opportunities. India follows similar doctrine as Russia & China for this reason
Ye sab thik hai but stryker isn't amphibious.
Which the jernails were doing randi rona over
 

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A fully indigenous product is ready and that too produced by private sector and yet we go for screwdrivergiri for the sake of military hardware diplomacy and make in India. They just killed our product's economies of scale and export potential. Not to mention the potential leverage lost which we can have with our own Hardware on other nations. Rather we will depend on US even more.
I am convinced now that India can never be a superpower. We really lack the seriousness, foresight and will required for it. At best , it will be a middle power
You are talking about this power and that power...
By establishing military maal dependence on US we will be just another r*ndiya in their harem, you can forget about being any kind of power then.

We will be forced into a relationship like the the (((NATO Allies))) Greece and Turkey or Israel and Egypt have today with the Bakis, we can't clap back because uncle sam will be upset while they ungli us to their heart's content.

May Ola destroy the vile and filthy import-khor Jernails of the fauj
 

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Looks like you are not paying attention..
Doesn't look like only specific HAMAS bunkers are being targeted [Of course bunkers are targets, but they are a small part of the targeting ].. Looks more like area bombing

Because of AIPAC hold on US politics.. Israel has the longest rope of any US ally..You have numerous videos of whole Gaza residential blocks being demolished by IDF using explosives..

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This is always done after warning calls and asking people to evacuate. What one needs is bombing of the people not just empty buildings
 

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India can.. if we become strong enough to bear the blow back.. Although world won't care much for lesser Muslims of Pakistan or bangladesh
while pakistan is a fool bangladesh plays smart they maintain friendly relations so we cant even block borders to stop the rohingyas and all while the kangalus play with our countrymen (mostly country women though)
Not true at all. There is enormous support for both of these vermins by inetrnational Chrislamic brigade. Bangladesh is not being nice but just adhering to bare minimum terms which India can force out of them given the chrislamic pressures like not making a military build up, keeping low level weapons, poor airforce etc. But they are still resorting to underhanded tactics and India is keeping its calm for greater good.
 

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Ye sab thik hai but stryker isn't amphibious.
Which the jernails were doing randi rona over
amphibious requirement was for basic ifv vehicle ? , if its just stryker shorad we are making then that wouldnt apply . we dont know if whap would even be amphibious if missiles are mounted on top of it .
 

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Ye sab thik hai but stryker isn't amphibious.
Which the jernails were doing randi rona over
Making wheeled amphibious armoured vehicles is very difficult. The wheels will not have grip in sludgy areas unlike tracked vehicles. Also, as I said, any wheeled AP will never be popular in India. So, Stryker etc may just be a sample purchase for studying at best or simply a black pill chatter
 

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You are talking about this power and that power...
By establishing military maal dependence on US we will be just another r*ndiya in their harem, you can forget about being any kind of power then.

We will be forced into a relationship like the the (((NATO Allies))) Greece and Turkey or Israel and Egypt have today with the Bakis, we can't clap back because uncle sam will be upset while they ungli us to their heart's content.

May Ola destroy the vile and filthy import-khor Jernails of the fauj
The army has its share of faults but it is becoming the go to punching bag for many especially when we have all powerful govt in many decades. Are you saying this powerful govt is helpless in front of army in a system where traditionally MoD wields serious power and influence? Why is that all international deals are passed in double quick time by MoF and MoD? And who heads DPC? And can such international joint production happen without political direction?
 

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The army has its share of faults but it is becoming the go to punching bag for many especially when we have all powerful govt in many decades. Are you saying this powerful govt is helpless in front of army in a system where traditionally MoD wields serious power and influence? Why is that all international deals are passed in double quick time by MoF and MoD? And who heads DPC? And can such international joint production happen without political direction?
It's not all powerful, which is why this hafta to Uncle Sam purchase.
Jernails could have inducted whap/kestrel but they were in coordination with Amriki dalals to cause this eventuality.

Earlier Jernails would do things in coordination with Russian dalals but now new dalal is best frand
 

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It's not all powerful, which is why this hafta to Uncle Sam purchase.
Jernails could have inducted whap/kestrel but they were in coordination with Amriki dalals to cause this eventuality.

Earlier Jernails would do things in coordination with Russian dalals but now new dalal is best frand
What black pilling is this? Telling full fake news which never happened and then talking trash? How do you know India is bowing before USA? What has actually happened on the ground that says so? Nothing! There should be a limit to delusions.

As for Russia, most of Russian items with India today have been indigenised. So, it was never a bad deal in the first place.
 

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What black pilling is this? Telling full fake news which never happened and then talking trash? How do you know India is bowing before USA? What has actually happened on the ground that says so? Nothing! There should be a limit to delusions.

As for Russia, most of Russian items with India today have been indigenised. So, it was never a bad deal in the first place.
Not bowing down, just paying them hafta, it has happened in the past also.
And i hope it's fake nyooz just like you do, because if it isn't, bastards will make us dance when a war comes

Atleast like you said the Ruskies allow decent indigenization and their stuff is in use for many decades now so we can reverse engineer if need be.

With Uncle Sam though...
 

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Is the most powerful political leadership with a secure govt unaware of the all indigenous items like atags, nags, Rudrams and now WhAPs,? Is NSA with charge of dpc not asking military leadership, MoD abt the need for stryker when we indigenous equivalent? These are some questions you should give thought to?
Indigenous items will be rejected by Jernails with their over 9000 field tests and requests for more features.
Meanwhile Uncle Sam asks for hafta and the Stryker is what he asked us to buy.

There's this and there's those MQ9 reaper drones, which are unarmed, hey, but atleast those are good for ISR i am told, that's also a hafta purchase.

Don't pay hafta and Uncle Sam goes after us for our grave sin of purchasing Russkie oil and our even graver sin of targetting some khali dog living in America, a sin that only according the West has actually occured.

Perhaps it could also be a package deal to get the GE F414 ToT, else who knows, it would get stuck on some level of "approval"
 

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Indigenous items will be rejected by Jernails with their over 9000 field tests and requests for more features.
Meanwhile Uncle Sam asks for hafta and the Stryker is what he asked us to buy.

There's this and there's those MQ9 reaper drones, which are unarmed, hey, but atleast those are good for ISR i am told, that's also a hafta purchase.

Don't pay hafta and Uncle Sam goes after us for our grave sin of purchasing Russkie oil and our even graver sin of targetting some khali dog living in America, a sin that only according the West has actually occured.

Perhaps it could also be a package deal to get the GE F414 ToT, else who knows, it would get stuck on some level of "approval"
How quickly have you given benefit of doubt to govt when it became difficult to defend stryker proposal but only military is guilty from the beginning?
 

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