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A State of the Art electronic artillery fuse manufacturing facility was launched at the Pune unit of Bharat Electronics Ltd (BEL) on October 27.The development comes after a ‘compliance report’from the Comptroller and auditor general (CAG) of India, which was tabled before the Parliament in July this year, revealed 83 per cent shortage of artillery fuses with the Army.Artillery fuses, known as the brain of the munition, are the devices that initiate explosion. They also determine how the explosion would be initiated — on contact with the target or some time after the launch.Meanwhile, officials from the BEL said the newly-inaugurated facility can produce at least 50,000 fuses per month and the capacity can be increased as per requirement. The facility, located on the BEL campus, on Pashan NDA Road in Pune, was inaugurated by Lt General Shamsher Singh, directorgeneral of quality assurance, along with MV Gowtama, chairman and managing director, BEL, and Nataraj Krishnappa, director, Maj Gen Sanjay Chauhan, controller (ammunition) and Dinesh Batra, general manager, BEL, Pune. Capt Raju Kothari, deputy general manager, compered the inaugural ceremony.Senior scientists from the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) laboratories andrepresentatives of various defence establishments, involved in the process of manufacturing fuse were also present at the function.A senior BEL official said, “Pune unit of the BEL, headquartered in Defence Public Sector Undertaking in Bengaluru, which has a multi-product facility that manufactures laser-based range finding equipment, power packs for wireless radio sets, infantry combat vehicle-based Nuclear Biological Chemical and reconnaissance systems, along with X Ray baggage scanners. The facility has diversified into the field of electronic artillery fuses. BEL has nine manufacturing units spread all over the country.”“The newly-inaugurated facility has a capacity to make more than 50,000 electronic fuses per month,and can augment this capacity as per the requirement of the Army. BEL, Pune, also plans to expand the fuse manufacturing capability in the near future. With this facility going online, BEL is confident of fulfilling all the needs of electronic fuses for our artillery, today and in times to come,” he added.
 

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DRDO is actively pursuing our indegeneous EMALS technology in collaboration with private enginnering colleges. Basic structure of Indian EMALS:



This is a technology which can be built entirely in India without any foreign help. We have big power companies and a huge number of electrical and electronics enginners.

Source : https://www.ijareeie.com/upload/2017/september/26_Double.pdf
http://www.ijltemas.in/DigitalLibrary/Vol.6Issue8/07-10.pdf
its a great job by the drdo, and the person who has proposed it in the manner.
 

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The penetration of a FSAPDS round depends on 3 factors: length of the rod, speed of the projectile and mechanical properties of the projectile. It is in this respect a high performance Tungsten based heavy alloy with ultimate tensile strength of 1600 MPa and average impact toughness of 121J/cm2 is being developed by DMRL in recent times. Definately will help in improving penetration performance of the current long rod penetrators.

Source : http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0263436817301257
 

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One thing always kept on bothering me. Why didn't we modified INSAS LMG to fire 7.62 NATO round and got out one sniper version of it?

Why can't this...

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be modified into something like this??

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Hope with new licensing company, we would see a spurt in R&D sector.
 

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If I have understood this amendment a little bit, now private companies can apply for licenses for building small arms and manufacturing and testing facility as well.
Manufacturing..I don't know but license will be given for r&d and for proof of firing.

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One thing always kept on bothering me. Why didn't we modified INSAS LMG to fire 7.62 NATO round and got out one sniper version of it?

Why can't this...

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be modified into something like this??

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Hope with new licensing company, we would see a spurt in R&D sector.
Lack of initiative,nothing else.
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If I have understood this amendment a little bit, now private companies can apply for licenses for building small arms and manufacturing and testing facility as well.
If what you said is true, then OFBs have to sweat a lot, so that they don't loose jobs.

Today 70% of Tejas is sourced from private companies. If someone in govt instill this fear then we can get lot more in short time.

Not undermining the OFBs, they have done good job lately. 7.62*51 rifle is just an example.
 

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Manufacturing..I don't know but license will be given for r&d and for proof of firing.

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This is what is written in that notification "the license shall be required to setup the facility for manufacture or proof test of arms and/or ammunition, . . . "

Still crossing my fingers.
 

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No GSQR, ........................................................
No GSQR hence no willingness to develop something new ?

'Muricans developed Match Grade Sniper Rifles,Belt Fed 'Squad Support Weapon' i.e. LMGs,Autoshotguns,Sub-Machine Guns,Carbines,Port Firing Weapon and what not from their AR-10 and AR-15 programs.

Ruskies and Warsaw Pact Nations developed almost all sort of guns out of their 'Kalashnikov' platform.

I think it is useless to rant over such things.Sorry,I'm out.
 

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OFB has developed 7.62x51 version of INSAS. Israeli ACE is basically INSAS at 5 times the cost. Till 5 years back OFB was banned from R&D spending. Violation was criminal offence under PC ACT making officers liable to 14 year imprisonment.

OFB already has 7.62 and 12.7 bolt action. Hence Army selects 0.338 middle caliber as sniper rifle. It would take max one month for OFB to design & manufacture even this caliber. BUT........
 

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The official grant for mass R&D to OFB was given after Report of Loksabha Defense Standing Committee made a recommendation to do so, that is less than a year here are the progress:
1. 7.62*51 was made in 6 months. Good or Bad it was done in 6 MONTHS, 2 Years should be granted before going about any conclusion, it is a rifle not semester exam.

2.7.62*51 Sniper going in CRPF and WB police.

3.7.62*39 Trichy AR being cleared by CRPF.

4.INSAS 1C getting Inducted.

For 1.5 Years this progress is good enough, may be not for Call of Duty fanboys!
 

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The official grant for mass R&D to OFB was given after Report of Loksabha Defense Standing Committee made a recommendation to do so, that is less than a year here are the progress:
1. 7.62*51 was made in 6 months. Good or Bad it was done in 6 MONTHS, 2 Years should be granted before going about any conclusion, it is a rifle not semester exam.

2.7.62*51 Sniper going in CRPF and WB police.

3.7.62*39 Trichy AR being cleared by CRPF.

4.INSAS 1C getting Inducted.

For 1.5 Years this progress is good enough, may be not for Call of Duty fanboys!

JVPC and Amogh have gained orders as well.
 

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OFB has developed 7.62x51 version of INSAS. Israeli ACE is basically INSAS at 5 times the cost. Till 5 years back OFB was banned from R&D spending. Violation was criminal offence under PC ACT making officers liable to 14 year imprisonment.

OFB already has 7.62 and 12.7 bolt action. Hence Army selects 0.338 middle caliber as sniper rifle. It would take max one month for OFB to design & manufacture even this caliber. BUT........
Now you see where lies the problem with OFB. As @soikot banerjee pointed out, funds for R&D has been released around a couple of years back. But they had came out with a bolt action sniper rifle based on what army had desired long ago. Even after gaining fund for R&D, they would wait for customer request to design something. We all know that Dragunov is losing its sheen now. Its only a matter of time that IA would change its doctrine or any other user would come up with a request to replace it. Then what we would have as replacement? A bolt action sniper would not be a weapon of choice at the first place to replace a semi auto marksman weapon. If OFB does invest in a semi auto sniper rifle and come out with atleast a working prototype, the they would not be at wanting end tomorrow. They needn't ask for a timeline then to design one.
Previously you were shackled down from doing R&D, but that is not the case now. So its better to be innovative rather then cry later that we are behind the curve in this and that.
 

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Now you see where lies the problem with OFB. As @soikot banerjee pointed out, funds for R&D has been released around a couple of years back. But they had came out with a bolt action sniper rifle based on what army had desired long ago. Even after gaining fund for R&D, they would wait for customer request to design something. We all know that Dragunov is losing its sheen now. Its only a matter of time that IA would change its doctrine or any other user would come up with a request to replace it. Then what we would have as replacement? A bolt action sniper would not be a weapon of choice at the first place to replace a semi auto marksman weapon. If OFB does invest in a semi auto sniper rifle and come out with atleast a working prototype, the they would not be at wanting end tomorrow. They needn't ask for a timeline then to design one.
Previously you were shackled down from doing R&D, but that is not the case now. So its better to be innovative rather then cry later that we are behind the curve in this and that.
Funds are cleared on case to case basis and not in a way that "once released make anything" they need to give the sheet for evry expenditure.
As for semi auto sniper OFT had done some homework with Vidhwansak hence I won't say they behind the curve!
 

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Funds are cleared on case to case basis and not in a way that "once released make anything" they need to give the sheet for evry expenditure.
As for semi auto sniper OFT had done some homework with Vidhwansak hence I won't say they behind the curve!
OFT has done homework on Vidhwanshak to bring its whooping weight of 25 kg to around 15 kg. It is basically an AMR rather then a APR or DMR. It is not something which could be sent as a replacement in place of Dragunov.

It would not be hard for OFB to make a case of semi auto sniper rifle development to replace aging one in service IMO.
 

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