ADA Tejas Mark-II/Medium Weight Fighter

[tejas warrior]

To have something is batter than nothing. Pakistan has achieved the production of sixteen JF-17 this year and India still produce 2-3 LCA per year.

Production rate of LCA will increase in coming 2 years to 16/year.

It takes time to setup production facilities and optimization based on orders in hand.

 

[silicon3]

i think enough is discussed the capabilities of the JF17 vs the LCA.... Pakistan are awsome at proxy war, low level terrosism etc, but pretty bad designing anything called their own, its just painted green wit ready made designs. LCA is a good prduct that will get better, production will imprve once all stake holders commits, in our country to many stake holders pulling each their own way.

 

[tejas warrior]

Now FOC is expected in last quarter of 2016 !!

 

[sathya]

Now FOC is expected in last quarter of 2016 !!

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Any news about when mk1p gets to fly ?

 

[VOCvangoens]

According to Wikipedia: "Defence Electronics Application Laboratory (DEAL) has designed and developed a next-generation Network-centric warfare, Aircraft management (including weapons), data fusion, Cooperative Engagement Capability, decision aids, integrated modular avionics, intern signature control with sharpening for low observability.", are there plans to integrate such a system to Tejas mk2?

 

[Indx TechStyle]

are there plans to integrate such a system to Tejas mk2?

What's meaning of this question?
Obviously it will be if developed. They took 30 years to develop it. Now, they will have to do as good as it can be to save the remaining pride.

 

[VOCvangoens]

What's meaning of this question?
Obviously it will be if developed. They took 30 years to develop it. Now, they will have to do as good as it can be to save the remaining pride.

Sorry, I neglected to mention that I was citing the Wikipedia page for the HAL AMCA. I was wondering whether a similar type of system, relating to net-centric warfare, would be integrated on the Tejas mk2?

 

[Indx TechStyle]

I was wondering whether a similar type of system, relating to net-centric warfare, would be integrated on the Tejas mk2?

Not net centric but modular avionics and few features from advanced planes can be easily integrated for Tejas platform just like we did with DSI technology.
Well, remaining tech are ideal for only AMCA. because even I forgot that I read on AMCA article. Anyway, few of these techs can be easily integrated. :tounge2:

 

[jackprince]

EnjoY!!!!!!! Great performance!!!

 

[tejas warrior]

Guyz, any update if we received F-414INS6 engines ??

http://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/first-tejas-mark-ii-engine-to-arrive-in-september-115070600054_1.html
http://www.janes.com/article/52873/india-expects-first-engines-for-tejas-mk-2-to-arrive-by-year-end
http://www.janes.com/article/52873/india-expects-first-engines-for-tejas-mk-2-to-arrive-by-year-end

 

[archie]

Is Mk2 Abandoned in the current roadmap with Full thrust to get AMCA? There seems to be no word since Mk1a appeared

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Is Mk2 Abandoned in the current roadmap with Full thrust to get AMCA? There seems to be no word since Mk1a appeared

I think I have spotted the design of Mk2 somewhere on this thread.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

I think that we should put Mk2 on hold as it does not exploit the LCA platform fully as it increases the fuselage by just 50cm. The Naval mk2 shall be almost 1.5 m longer and shall explot the platform fully. Though it will take a bit longer time but it shall be a highly potent platform of gripen class. We can derive Air force MK2 out of Naval MK2. It shall be in girpen class and shall carry over 6 ton load with 116 KN engine. Proposed Air force Mk2 is a compromise to get a better version quickly and reduce the testing time t just 2 years because of commonality with mk1.

We must build a platform compatible to gripen. It can be in MMRCA catagory. We can bring it by 2025 i.e 3 years later than proposed Mk2. But The Tejas Mk1 prepared in line with Naval Tejas shall be a much better and capable platform of MMRCA class.

Till Baharine Air sho, we had some skepticism about the maneuverability of tejas which is completely been eliminated now. Tejas in its FOC avatar shall be much agile with flight envelop fully opened and carefree maneuvering. If it can do mach 1.8 than i think all issues related to maneuverability are addressed. Aerodynamic changes are also proposed to be made so as weight reduction. I believe both to gather will make tejas much faster.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

I think I have spotted the design of Mk2 somewhere on this thread.

Where???? Pl reproduce same here.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Where???? Pl reproduce same here.

Wait a minute. Posting and then, tagging you.

 

[Chirag]

Why do we not use AL-31FP for Tejas MK2? as we already have AL-31FP production facilities in India

 

[Chinmoy]

Why do we not use AL-31FP for Tejas MK2? as we already have AL-31FP production facilities in India

Tejas would not be able to stand the thrust of 123KN. Saturn AL-31FP is for heavy craft.

 

[tsunami]

Why do we not use AL-31FP for Tejas MK2? as we already have AL-31FP production facilities in India

You can not fit a truck engine in a car... do you??
AL-31FP is too big for Tejas.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Why do we not use AL-31FP for Tejas MK2? as we already have AL-31FP production facilities in India

It is big and can not be fitted in small plane like tejas.

 

[sorcerer]

LCA: A chance for Asia to pull out the big guns

India is showing the way by building a fighter jet

Manama. Much to the delight of the aerospace fraternity in India, the country’s own fighter aircraft — the Light Combat Aircraft Tejas — flew at the three-day Bahrain International Air Show. Perhaps buoyed by its performance and favourable reaction, India’s Defence Minister, Manohar Parrikar said on the same day that full-scale production would begin by next year and that other countries have shown interest in the fighter plane.




As far as the Bahrain show is concerned, according to Chairman and Manging Director of Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL), T Suvarna Raju, two Limited Series Production (LSP) aircraft took part. The performance covered aerobatic manoeuvres in what is called 8-g pull, vertical loop, slow fly past, and barrel roll in defence parlance. He also pointed out that HAL, which is associated with the design, development and production of Tejas, has set-up a state-of-the-art, environmentally-controlled division in Bengaluru for the production of LCAs and expected to roll-out soon.

However, what is of significance is, participation of this kind brings less-known names to the attention of international customers and media. There is no doubt that for countries facing huge defence manufacturing challenges, it is important that their products — helicopters, trainers, transport and fighter aircraft, and drones of various kinds — must be demonstrated at international air shows to impress upon those who are in need of these products.

The defence sector is completely dominated by Western powers, thanks to their robust manufacturing, research and technology set-ups. Aerospace is a complex area with zero tolerance for the smallest error. While Western countries remain in the forefront, Asia at best could be described as a laggard as it was unable to overcome the investment and technological challenges peculiar to the aerospace sector.

It takes years, even decades, for one product to get accepted in an unforgiving market. Today, although things have improved, these countries are aware that there is still some distance to go to match the skill-sets and R&D set-ups that exist in defence manufacturing in the US or France.

According to one estimate, 54 per cent of India’s population is under 30 years and the ratio of the population in the working age group of 15-59 years is likely to be 64 per cent by 2021. India will thus approximately have 25 per cent of the world’s total workforce by 2025.

One needs to exploit this by creating the right opportunities in different sectors — aerospace is one of them.

It is true that for most of developing countries, it is daunting to aggregate the skill requirements of the industry, address the sub-sectors and regional requirements keeping line with international trends and best practices. But whatever the challenges Asia faces, it is welcome sign that countries like India have debuted in a critical segment such as fighter aircraft.

Tejas is a single-engined, lightweight, highly agile, multi-role supersonic fighter. It is a 4.5 generation aircraft with supersonic capability at all altitudes. It is fly-by-wire and has an open architecture computer for avionics and better weapon and combat capability. With advanced avionics, the pilot load is also reduced.

Already, the Sarang helicopter display team of the Indian Air Force — that flies four HAL-produced Dhruv helicopters — has enthralled visitors at different places including Bahrain. HAL Dhruv is suitable for increased payload at higher altitudes and has been developed for the Indian defence Forces. More than 200 helicopters have been produced so far, cumulatively clocking around 142,000 hours of flying.

In future, one hopes there will be more opportunities to showcase new variants of ‘Make in India’ copters.

Considering that for any Asian country, buying a plane or a helicopter from the West comes at a very heavy price, cost-effective fighters and helicopters manufactured in Asia are bound to impress the potential customers. It also means enormous pressure on those involved in the process ... but then that is the nature of the defence business.

The future course would depend on how the aerospace manufacturing ecosphere evolves in Asia and India in particular. One hopes the Bahrain show paves the way for an Asian emergence, at least on a small scale at the international level.



The writer is Chief of Media Communications at Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. The views expressed are his own.
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