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HAL unveils LCA Tejas full scale model at Minsk Square

Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) has unveiled the full scale model of Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas in Bengaluru city’s iconic Minsk Square.
Tejas is a single engined, light weight, highly agile, multi-role supersonic fighter. It has quadruplex digital fly-by-wire Flight Control System (FCS) with associated advanced flight control laws.
Extensive use of advanced composites in the airframe gives it a high strength to weight ratio, long fatigue life and low radar signatures. Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) is the project manager for the development of LCA.CA's production facilities have been set up at HAL.
T Suvarna Raju, Chairman and Managing Director, HAL, unveiled the LCA model opposite to HAL Corporate Office. Earlier, the Minsk Square housed the model of Ajeet (Gnat) aircraft which was removed due to the metro work in 2009.
“The Minsk Square with lush green layout and lighting is maintained by HAL. We are happy to contribute to the city’s beautification in our own way. The LCA model stands as a symbolic representation reflecting city’s reputation as an aerospace hub of India”, said Raju. Cmde C D Balaji (Retd), Program Director, Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA), and G Kumar Naik, Commissioner, Bruhat Bengaluru Mahanagara Palike (BBMP), and others were present during the launch.
The cockpit seems to be that of trainer variant with two pilots. Is it so?
 

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Would the improvement is performance of ramjet Air-to-air missiles such as METEOR over non-ramjet ones such as ASTRA make the latter obsolete?
 

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Tejas Pilots Pull 8 'g' and Beyond Clearing Critical FOC


by Dr Anantha Krishnan M

Mysore: India's Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas cleared one of the most critical flight test parameters in the program, when the pilots pulled 8 'g' (limit of envelope) during its ongoing test flights in Bangalore.

By doing so, it has cleared a key point towards the Final Operational Clearance (FOC), as mandated by the Indian Air Force (IAF).

Sources told OneIndia that Tejas pilots pulled 8 ‘g' and beyond a couple of times during trials held in the last fortnight of December.

Commodore Jaideep Maolonkar, Chief Test Pilot at National Flight Test Centre (NFTC) and Group Capt Rangachari, a Test Pilot of NFTC achieved this critical task taking the fighter closer to the FOC.

Interestingly, officials at the Defence Research Development Organisation (DRDO), Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) and Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) were tight-lipped about this major milestone achieved.

As reported by OneIndia earlier, scientists and engineers are now engaged in last-minute preparations to take Tejas for the 4th edition of Bahrain International Air Show (BIAS-2016), being held from January 21-23 at the Sakhir Airbase. This will be Tejas' first official outing outside India to participate in a flying demonstration.

Fighter can now perform combat maneuvers

"The 8 'g' is the limit of the flight envelope which permits aircraft to perform combat maneuvers. This will enable the pilots to do tight turns. They have demonstrated it a couple of times. The pilots are comfortable and aircraft behaved itself," a source said.

As this piece goes live on New Year's Day, the Tejas program has so far (from 2001) logged 3031 flights (1938 hours) with nearly 15 variants joining the program at different stages.

Though Tejas skipped the December 2015 deadline for attaining the FOC, the year otherwise was a satisfying one with the first Series Production aircraft (SP1) being handed over to IAF during early January.

"Being a weapon platform, Tejas has to perform in extreme climatic conditions. Therefore the vigorous testing pursued at Leh (-20deg C) and at Jaiselmer (+40deg C) concludes the aircraft can perform in almost all weather conditions effortlessly. Very few aircraft can demonstrate such capabilities," claims the source.

The writer is a seasoned aerospace and defence journalist in India. Currently a Post-Doctoral Fellow with University of Mysore, he is a Consulting Editor (Defence) with OneIndia. He tweets @writetake

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Tejas Pilots Pull 8 'g' and Beyond Clearing Critical FOC


by Dr Anantha Krishnan M

Mysore: India's Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas cleared one of the most critical flight test parameters in the program, when the pilots pulled 8 'g' (limit of envelope) during its ongoing test flights in Bangalore.

By doing so, it has cleared a key point towards the Final Operational Clearance (FOC), as mandated by the Indian Air Force (IAF).

Sources told OneIndia that Tejas pilots pulled 8 ‘g' and beyond a couple of times during trials held in the last fortnight of December.

Commodore Jaideep Maolonkar, Chief Test Pilot at National Flight Test Centre (NFTC) and Group Capt Rangachari, a Test Pilot of NFTC achieved this critical task taking the fighter closer to the FOC.

Interestingly, officials at the Defence Research Development Organisation (DRDO), Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) and Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) were tight-lipped about this major milestone achieved.

As reported by OneIndia earlier, scientists and engineers are now engaged in last-minute preparations to take Tejas for the 4th edition of Bahrain International Air Show (BIAS-2016), being held from January 21-23 at the Sakhir Airbase. This will be Tejas' first official outing outside India to participate in a flying demonstration.

Fighter can now perform combat maneuvers

"The 8 'g' is the limit of the flight envelope which permits aircraft to perform combat maneuvers. This will enable the pilots to do tight turns. They have demonstrated it a couple of times. The pilots are comfortable and aircraft behaved itself," a source said.

As this piece goes live on New Year's Day, the Tejas program has so far (from 2001) logged 3031 flights (1938 hours) with nearly 15 variants joining the program at different stages.

Though Tejas skipped the December 2015 deadline for attaining the FOC, the year otherwise was a satisfying one with the first Series Production aircraft (SP1) being handed over to IAF during early January.

"Being a weapon platform, Tejas has to perform in extreme climatic conditions. Therefore the vigorous testing pursued at Leh (-20deg C) and at Jaiselmer (+40deg C) concludes the aircraft can perform in almost all weather conditions effortlessly. Very few aircraft can demonstrate such capabilities," claims the source.

The writer is a seasoned aerospace and defence journalist in India. Currently a Post-Doctoral Fellow with University of Mysore, he is a Consulting Editor (Defence) with OneIndia. He tweets @writetake

Source>>
1938 flight hrs without a single crash...........:hail:
 

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But pakis are still comparing their 3rd generation fighter with it and calling their junk fighter 17 Advanced, Stealthy, modern and far superior to Tejas.
:) you simply can't compare two weapons unless and until there is a face off.
 

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:) you simply can't compare two weapons unless and until there is a face off.
But two weapons must be of same class. jft is based on 60s tech and should be compared to HAL HF-24 Marut and not ADA LCA Tejas Mk1A.
Their comparison would be like F-5 vs F22 otherwise. Both have different generation of tech.
 

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But two weapons must be of same class. jft is based on 60s tech and should be compared to HAL HF-24 Marut and not ADA LCA Tejas Mk1A.
Their comparison would be like F-5 vs F22 otherwise. Both have different generation of tech.
Now defining and understanding class and tech needs someone to be impartial and bit open minded. I hope you got my point.............. :)
 

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But two weapons must be of same class. jft is based on 60s tech and should be compared to HAL HF-24 Marut and not ADA LCA Tejas Mk1A.
Their comparison would be like F-5 vs F22 otherwise. Both have different generation of tech.
Jf 17 is not some 60 's technology, it's also roughly in the same class as lca tejas is.tejas has more quality, slightly better design too because of iaf standards, but by and large both jets are comparable, it's not like f22 vs f5 kind of generation gap. Most of the opinions you see in this forum is naturally biased, same is the case when a pakistani talk about jf17 thunder and equate it with su30mki and what not.i belive truth is somwhere in the middle. There was one guy called p2prada in this forum, he used to give a realistic assessments on fighter jets including LCA.
 

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its high time HAL partners with multiple private firms to manufacture its diffrent parts and subsystems to make it even more cost effective and with higher dilivery rate or else it just might proove to be another marut which we count find a proper engine and british with same design and twin engine format m,ade and used tornadoes and still using them shame on MOD HAL and ARDE if they still cant read writing on the wall
 

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Jf 17 is not some 60 's technology, it's also roughly in the same class as lca tejas is.tejas has more quality, slightly better design too because of iaf standards, but by and large both jets are comparable, it's not like f22 vs f5 kind of generation gap. Most of the opinions you see in this forum is naturally biased, same is the case when a pakistani talk about jf17 thunder and equate it with su30mki and what not.i belive truth is somwhere in the middle. There was one guy called p2prada in this forum, he used to give a realistic assessments on fighter jets including LCA.
JF-17 is based on the 60s technology. Its a continuation of the Chinese "Super 7" project started in 1991 to redesign and upgrade the Chinese F-7(Mig21 copy). So basically JF-17 is based on a Mig21 with design upgrades and upgrades on its avionics,weapons,etc.
 

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just for R&D sake why notHAL-ARDE make a forward swept wing stealthy LCA configuration with PAKFA type twin horizontal stabilizers and DSI intake that too with AESA and internal IRIST and internal LD pod like F-35
 

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JF-17 is based on the 60s technology. Its a continuation of the Chinese "Super 7" project started in 1991 to redesign and upgrade the Chinese F-7(Mig21 copy). So basically JF-17 is based on a Mig21 with design upgrades and upgrades on its avionics,weapons,etc.
Just because jf 17 is based on some old fighter jet won't make it 60's technology. Fighter jets are often developed from from old models and improved up on. Jf 17 is by and large as good or bad as lca or any other 4th gen designs available today, it's comparable tech and design even if it's not exactly as good as others.anybody saying jf 17 vs LCA is like f22 vs F5 is living in a fools paradise.
 

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Just because jf 17 is based on some old fighter jet won't make it 60's technology. Fighter jets are often developed from from old models and improved up on. Jf 17 is by and large as good or bad as lca or any other 4th gen designs available today, it's comparable tech and design even if it's not exactly as good as others.anybody saying jf 17 vs LCA is like f22 vs F5 is living in a fools paradise.
The difference isnt as huge as a "F-22 vs F-5" thats obvious. But there's atleast half to 1 generation difference considering JF-17 Block 2 is more like a 3.5th gen...Tejas mk1 is 4th gen while Tejas mk1A is a 4.5th gen. JF-17 block 3 is still several years away.
 

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The difference isnt as huge as a "F-22 vs F-5" thats obvious. But there's atleast half to 1 generation difference considering JF-17 Block 2 is more like a 3.5th gen...Tejas mk1 is 4th gen while Tejas mk1A is a 4.5th gen. JF-17 block 3 is still several years away.
Like it or not jf 17 is indeed a 4 th gen fighter jet, that's the reality. The So called fanboy experts from both sides will calim their jet is superior, they will throw some technical language to shut up anybody questions their non sense. I have seen many of them dominating in their respective forums.unfortunately many including me doesnt have enough technical knowledge to challange such onsided narratives.
jf 17 blk 2 and lca mk1 are by and large comparable fighter jets, jf 17 is cheaper and suits pakistans economy and needs while lca needs to meet iaf standards, that's all it is.
 

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just for R&D sake why notHAL-ARDE make a forward swept wing stealthy LCA configuration with PAKFA type twin horizontal stabilizers and DSI intake that too with AESA and internal IRIST and internal LD pod like F-35
I like the idea, we have a thread open in this forum to discuss LCA Tejas MK 3. I am believe this should be the next prospective evolution of Tejas.
 

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The difference isnt as huge as a "F-22 vs F-5" thats obvious. But there's atleast half to 1 generation difference considering JF-17 Block 2 is more like a 3.5th gen...Tejas mk1 is 4th gen while Tejas mk1A is a 4.5th gen. JF-17 block 3 is still several years away.
To have something is batter than nothing. Pakistan has achieved the production of sixteen JF-17 this year and India still produce 2-3 LCA per year.
 

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