ADA Tejas (LCA) News and Discussions

Which role suits LCA 'Tejas' more than others from following options?

  • Interceptor-Defend Skies from Intruders.

    Votes: 342 51.3%
  • Airsuperiority-Complete control of the skies.

    Votes: 17 2.5%
  • Strike-Attack deep into enemy zone.

    Votes: 24 3.6%
  • Multirole-Perform multiple roles.

    Votes: 284 42.6%

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IndianHawk

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Thank you for your detailed analysis.

Why IAF do not order more MK1s ?

They are spending more on upgrading Mirage, ready to buy F-solh, Gripen which are good for nothing..

HAL can not increase production due to less ORDER is well understood.
What iaf wants to do is anybody's guess.
But I think they want to preserve not just sq numbers but also their prepared strategies. Mirage upgrade points in that direction they have a familiar platform well developed fight strategy and training etc for them.

LCA is still new for iaf they will have to get comfy with it first then only could they develop proper operational 'doctrine' .
While Rafael ,f16 and even gripen have been operational for quite a while so they will save that much time in terms of preparedness while inputing technology into lca /amca.
In 4-5 years as IAF absorbs lca in full spectrum of its capabilities we will see numbers jumping.
There is also naval mk2 and trainer variant . These programs hold promise for future.
 

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Sir, IAF and arms mafia is all set to take Tejas to dustbin along the lines of Arjun Tank saga. US airforce are buying and flying 100 of Non-IOC/non-FOC un-airworthy F-35's because they know a thing or 2 about how in-house tech and capabilities are developed and product is polished to completion.

Although India does not have engine tech or homegrown radar, it has DESIGNED and DEVELOPED an product in-house which is worthy accomplishment. Gripen does not have both(home engine & radar) will the Swedes or any other nation(having developed similar single jet AC) take LCA-MK2 if it was completed trials (IOC/FOC) and all production ready today with data-link?? The answer is big NO.

The ToT on AC engine is carrot that will potentially kill future enthusiasm for design and development in aeronautics. Neither is it going to help India in making any advanced engine in future( for this u need DO IT YOURSELF attitude both in research and spending). What will be scientist who might have worked 10-15 years on LCA project would be thinking right now that GOI has opened an tender to look for SINGLE JET fighter :rofl:.

Why will IIT or college grad spend 10-15 years of his life on project that will eventually get scrapped becoz foreign maal is better. They could earn atleast 10x using their skills in some foreign land. People who will be still left in ADA or DRDO won't be 50% passionate about it.

It all depends on how much money & manpower HAL is going to put into mk1A & tejas production line effort, which needs backing from Manohar Parrikar as he is also the minister for defence production besides besides being defence minister.

Why no one is seriously thinking about a global tender calling MNCs in JV with indian partners or in 100% FDI route, for setting up second tejas production line in india is a mystery to me!!!

China adds abt 40 locally produced fighters to its airforce every year, we should also add minimum of 40 fighters every year atleast from 2020 onwards if we hv to replace all obsolete migs & jags

As far as I hv known no defence analysts has ever raised this question either??
 

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yes. CFTs are widely being used by F-16, F-18 with no penalty on air drag or maneuverability.
Drag will be Less than External fuel tanks.. but off course It will be there.

It basically free up your hard points.. but drawback being, External fuel tanks can be dropped in A2A combat mission.
 

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Good video for those interested in the Tejas and has some interesting updates:

1) Tandem pylon with tandem bombs tested already

2) 90% by surface area composites - carbon fiber composites help in reducing RCS

3) Discussion on the belief that the Tejas is underpowered.

Balaji states that "I believe, in some sense that ADA has been a culprit in understating, the performance of this airplane. that probably is the cause for these statements that the airplane is underpowered"..

but he states that the program has achieved many milestones this year where the airplane has performed much better than anticipated because the predictions were a little conservative because its being done for the first time..and then goes on to give the example of the recent high altitude hot and high tests for the Tejas twin seater. 28-29 deg C, from Leh (10,682 ft above sea level). The Tejas trainer took off with 2 pilots, 2 X 1000 lbs bombs, 2 X 1000 ltr drop tanks and 2 X R-73 dummy rounds in less than the expected distance, fully loaded, with enough spare margin.

4) Optimizing to get the maximum possible g and angle of attack performance from the jet currently. Claimed to be the most unstable aircraft in the world and performance claimed to be comparable to any airplane of its class.

5) Air chief for the first time ever, flew the Tejas trainer from the back seat without having been in a simulator before. He was so comfortable that he took over controls during take off (against the script for that sortie) and pulled 4.5-5 G maneuvers loving every aspect of it. It is a testimony of its ease to fly.

Source : http://www.ndtv.com/video/shows/walk-the-talk/walk-the-talk-with-team-tejas-434144?video-featured
 

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Walk The Talk With Team Of Hindustan Aeronautics Limited

*WATCH THE VIDEO

Published On:Oct 14, 2016 | Duration: 24 min, 43 sec
"We're proud to say that HAL has made India one of the only six countries that can design, manufacture and maintain combat helicopters", says T Suvarna Raju, Chairman, Hindustan Aeronautics Limited, dispelling the age old belief that HAL is just an assembler of components. Backing his statement, Chief Test Pilot of Helicopters, Wing Commander Unni Pillai (retd) says that the indigenously designed & developed combat helicopters are a "quantum jump" over all the existing choppers in the fleet of the Air Force and the Army. Chief Test Pilot of fighter Jets and transport aircraft Air Commodore K A Muthanna (retd) validates the HAL Chairman's words of praise for the indigenously developed light combat aircraft, the Tejas.



http://m.ndtv.com/video/shows/walk-...-team-of-hindustan-aeronautics-limited-435005
 

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Walk The Talk With Team Of Hindustan Aeronautics Limited
Shekhar Gupta failed to ask some pertinent questions. Should have asked more about mark 1A dev status, status of SPs currently being manufactued, LSP 7 flight testing schedule, weapons testing, LCA Navy, export potential.. Should have asked some of these at least.
 

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To be frank i thought the assembly hangars for LCA were not up-to-date. I have never visited one but what do folks think???

 

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To be frank i thought the assembly hangars for LCA were not up-to-date. I have never visited one but what do folks think???

Expecting HAL to have F-35 like production facilities seems a little absurd when you consider the F-35 budget is well over $500Bn and the LCA is around $2-3Bn.

That said, the LCA's production lines (1 and 2) are not shown here, what is shown are the hangers and work stations for the LSPs. As time goes by HAL will adopt more and more best practices surely.
 

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To be frank i thought the assembly hangars for LCA were not up-to-date. I have never visited one but what do folks think???

All the Tejas stationed here are LSP series.. so it's not main production line. It may be HAL's product development line.

But still their production line will not be comparable to LM production line.

At the same time, private companies production lines will look much advanced in India as well.. see of TATA Advance Systems production line :
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