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    The Greatest Kings in Indian History

    Why is Kharavela of the Kalinga missing from the list. He avenged the humiliation of Kalinga, by Magadha a hundred years back, by defeating Magadha. Same time he drove back the Greek Demetrius, who had invaded India. Then he defeats Satakarni of Sathavahas(who was by all records a powerful...
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    The Greatest Kings in Indian History

    @Rahul M The expression abhijAto and anabhijAta which is used in the Arthashastra can easily lend itself to interpreted as both High born/born of high caste and low born/born into lower caste.The Arthashastra is generally regarded anterior to the period of the Dharma sastras,when the...
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    The Greatest Kings in Indian History

    @ Rahul M What we are trying to do here,at least i hope that's what we trying ,is to dispel the apparent incongruence's with respect to the lineage of the Chandragupta Maurya,more so because there is no definitive account for the same and those that we have too many inconsistencies in the...
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    The Greatest Kings in Indian History

    Adux you were supposed to take the comment about Upper castes biding their time in the lighter vein.My own views on the caste system is that it represents a singular threat to the cohesiveness and unity of the Hindu society,which is an absolute must if we are to inherit this nation.
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    The Greatest Kings in Indian History

    Kautilya's Arthasastra: Book VIII, "Concerning Vices and Calamities" Which is better, a weak but high-born king, or a strong but low-born king? My teacher says that a people, even if interested in having a weak king, hardly allow room for the intrigues of a weak but high-born person...
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    The Greatest Kings in Indian History

    You folks are supposed to take that in a lighter vein,may be i didn't add the 'LOL'
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    The Greatest Kings in Indian History

    You can never predict the future,we the upper caste perhaps are merely biding our time............Never say never again !
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    The Greatest Kings in Indian History

    A hypothetical question will only result in a hypothetical answer,which will not always conform to facts or possibility.If traditional records are to be believed Mahapadma Nanda ruled for the most part of the period that is traditionally ascribed to the Nava Nandas,which would be in excess of...
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    The Greatest Kings in Indian History

    Chandragupta Maurya's parentage and his place in the traditional varna system is ambiguous and which in itself is significant because had Maurya come from an undisputed Kshatriya lineage there would not have been reasons for so much ambivalence over his status.That having said iam inclined to...
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    The Greatest Kings in Indian History

    Its not merely about the monuments,after all didn't Ashoka leave behind his edicts on stone for posterity,edicts which his countrymen down the centuries could not read nor would bother to record its salient message in a manner legible to them.A society's collective consciousness is not an...
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    The Greatest Kings in Indian History

    There is indeed a reason why some of the members here believe that Raja Raja Chozan,Krishna Deva Raya or Chatrapathi Shivaji were indeed greater than Asoka or Maurya and the reasons are not misplaced by any measure.The legacy of Ashoka was and remains for most part an academic...
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    The Greatest Kings in Indian History

    Dear Pmaitra Your Impatience for a lengthy discourse and inability to digest seemingly complex thought contained in it is well known to me.perhaps your intellect cannot absorb things unless they are segmented and reduced to an abstract and fed at a convenient pace.Unfortunately not all are are...
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    The Greatest Kings in Indian History

    If we didn't have great kings in ancient India,given the system of social organization that was prevalent at the time,we wouldn't have a scratch of what we call today as the Indian civilization.They all may not have great,but still we ought to be grateful.
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    The Greatest Kings in Indian History

    @PMaitra Since you have made it a stubborn habit not to 'understand' my posts,why do persist in the futile exercise,may be you just dont have the wherewithal for such a task.Lets leave it at that for sanity's sake.
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    The Greatest Kings in Indian History

    Nothing will be forced upon the Hindu society which it does not accepts on its own volition.The question of Hindus social reform is part of the Hindus resurgence and its determination to preserve and extend its cultural space and expand its national foot print.We have a avowedly secular state...
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    The Greatest Kings in Indian History

    Let us leave the matter of Hindu reconciliation unto the Hindus,perhaps the social prohibition against untouchabilty now gaining strength in the Hindu society is mark of such a reconciliation.But for those who want to eliminate the Hindu tradition,what difference does it make what and how Hindus...
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    The Greatest Kings in Indian History

    Caste system is irrelevant here,because the examples of kings advocating a certian philosophy,which neither their predecessor subscribed to nor their successor would advocate,evidently happens at different chronologies of the indian historical time scale.the example of the Mauriya and the...
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    The Greatest Kings in Indian History

    @Johnee Some section of the Hindus society is still undecided whether they want to preserve their society and way of life and that that this society must always be a position of dominance in this motherland of ours.They re more concerned about principles,about proving their point,even if it has...
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    The Greatest Kings in Indian History

    Iam actually stuck by the classification of Hindu ,Buddhist or Jain kings.Is this classification not similar to shaiva or Vaishnava kings or those who submitted themselves to the Shakta school.Take for instance the example i cited for Asoka and Chadragupta Mauriya.since Mauriya s spent the...
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    The Greatest Kings in Indian History

    All contributors lets please stick to the scope of the discussion!!
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