China recognises NaMo as future PM

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    China recognises NaMo as future PM | Niti Central

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    China was amongst the first countries to start treating Narendra Modi like a PM-in-waiting even before he had won his latest term in Gujarat. This was well before the Europeans beat a path to Gandhinagar, and years before America decided to reluctantly smell the coffee. There was prescience in the Chinese move to host Narendra Modi like a head of state in China. Done a couple of years ago, it was an acknowledgement and an intelligence assessment that was on target.

    Is it any wonder then that China is on its way to overtaking the US as the biggest economy in the world even as there are natural apprehensions on its hegemonic tendencies? We are especially traumatised by our experience in 1962, at the bitter end of the Hindi-Chini-Bhai-Bhai era, but this could be potentially a very different world now.

    Standing as a bulwark against Western manipulation together may work to benefit both India and China more than alternate scenarios. After all, the US-Chinese economic and diplomatic relationship continues strong, even as Chinese power and assertiveness, economic and military, keeps growing steadily. But first, the trust deficit between India and China must be bridged, and this can happen gradually in a cautious and calibrated manner, if we determine to do so.

    But in 2014, should our fear of Chinese ulterior motives, the tensions on the borders, the blatant alliance with Pakistan, and help being given to some of our insurgents, turn us away from the opportunity for economic growth and betterment on offer? Can the economic opportunities be regarded separately from the other contentions? The present UPA Government seems to think so.

    What, after all, have we really gained by our overtures and diplomatic leanings towards America and the West over many decades besides the George W Bush era Nuclear Power Deal? Things have gone into a semi-freeze thereafter during the Obama years, and China has given practically the same deal to Pakistan alongside.

    Some defence analysts state that Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal is actually bigger and better than ours, and Indian access to nuclear fuel and high technology has not, in fact, improved dramatically. Bush and the Republicans might have wanted to create an unequivocal Indian ally, but there has been some revision in the thinking of the Democrat-run US since. The EU, Japan, Australia and the rest must therefore follow suit, if in a muted fashion.

    An economic cooperation with China now, and the consequent mutuality, may thwart some American globocop ambitions in the Indian Ocean, the Pacific and South Asia, but need not necessarily put India at increased military risk. Besides, these tilts tend to engender healthy competition from other ‘providers’ that could benefit both countries. Besides, it must be noted realistically, that all our neighbours are already on board the Chinese omnibus.

    Now China, with trillions in investible funds, has said it wants to invest $300 billion, an estimated third of the present requirement, to create, upgrade or modernise our quaint infrastructure. This is the biggest offer that has come to India from any country in the world. Currently, China has a strong balance of trade surplus of around $40 billion in its favour, but a miniscule share of just 0.15 per cent of India’s FDI inflows between April 2000 and December 2013. There are plans to ramp up bilateral trade between our two countries to $100 billion by 2015, but this cannot come about without some bold initiatives being taken.

    On infrastructure, the Chinese have offered to work in Telecom, Nuclear Power, Solar and Hydel Power, Railways, Roads, Sewage Treatment, Tunnel building etc. as well as in agro-processing and manufacturing. They are particularly keen on transforming our Railways with enhanced electrification, high-speed trains, modern wagons, last-mile connectivity and gauge conversion. This should surely be welcomed by the incoming Government, because the once proud Railways, amongst the most elaborate in the world, is now out-dated, inadequate, over-burdened and notoriously unsafe.

    The Indian Railways however, remains a major employer, and is of enormous strategic importance because it links the length and breadth of the country. That it gets a separate Budget presentation every year speaks for itself. It therefore merits the Government’s urgent attention to arrest its terminal decline, particularly as it is also rapidly losing money. A recent CAG audit puts the loss figure at over Rs 1,155 crore between 2010-2013 in engineering and operations alone. This is a tremendous comedown for one of India’s proudest institutions which was once a major revenue earner for the nation. With no money being self-generated to spend on modernisation, safety, comfort and capacity enhancement, the Railways are being slowly abandoned by both passengers and freight whenever possible.

    While the fulsome Chinese offer has come in the dying days of the UPA dispensation, in which very little actual progress can be expected, it needs to be taken up promptly by the incoming Government. China is undoubtedly one of the most adept manufacturing nations in the world and also has stellar infrastructure development experience under its belt, both at home and abroad.

    With $3.8 trillion in reserves and counting, it is already contributing to the development of the South Asian region — in Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Myanmar, and extensively in parts of the African continent as well. We must therefore take a fresh look at our suspicions and induct Chinese expertise and money in a phased manner as this kind of economic engagement tends to also go a long way to ease tensions and promote trust. If the West is interested in the Indian market opportunity on favourable terms, then why not the Chinese?

    The scale of the offer is indeed unprecedented, and dwarfs our economic engagement with the West and Japan too. The Japanese, who have recently financed some of our infrastructure projects, have only invested a fraction of the Chinese offer. That too, over the years, inclusive of the Delhi Metro and the work ongoing in the Delhi-Mumbai Industrial Corridor.

    The Chinese offer is also in harmony with Narendra Modi’s stated dream to develop India on fast-track to catch up to China by 2020. NaMo reportedly wants to provide 24×7 Power throughout the nation as a spur towards this objective. He has repeatedly stressed that employment generation is a top priority in this country with its huge demographic dividend. He wants to enhance employment by promoting big and medium industry, the IT, financial, and other service sectors, the backbone of infrastructure and the initiative of entrepreneurship across the board.

    The roads in some parts of the country may be fairly good now thanks to the Vajpayee Golden Quadrilateral initiative, but in other parts of the nation they remain quite basic or practically non-existent. This road sector alone can be viewed as a metaphor for all the work that remains to be done. Infrastructure development such as this, on multiple fronts, in a new phase of dynamic activity, will boost the GDP to near or above 10 per cent per annum by itself, and open up a wealth of unprecedented opportunity for everyone.
     
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    Any increase in trade with China will be heavily skewed in favor of China. We have growing trade relations but that didn't stop China from incursions.

    China will not base its policy on who the PM of the country is.
     
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    China and India can be great trading partners. Historically, China never had expansionist tendencies as it is a huge country and an ancient proud civilization. If you look past the recent 50 years of Communist rule, then, you will see real face of Chinese civilization. Indians will be pleasantly surprised when there will be people to people contact . Chinese people has a lot in common with Indian people. There past traditions and thinking resemble Indian culture. Why should World's two largest nations be enemies? Just because some old, hegemonistic power want ? Modi is a patriot and seems a brave leader. I hope Modi will bring India and China closer to each other and create a peaceful and harmonious World.
     
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    More trade between India and China is beneficial for both... specially Chinese investment in the infrastructure sector... China should open up the pharma sector for Indian industries that may help the balance of trade now in favor of China...
     
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    Maybe, but it is normal. China was in India's position 30 years ago.


    An "incursion" can only happens after the border line have been agreed by both countries.

    Now,India is just counting how many times China across the "border line" set by India itself. (China is doing the same...)

    Yes, we do.

    A people's PM is different to a US's (or western's )PM (eg. Nehru).

    Peace between China and India is our people's interest , but western countries just want us to fight each other.
     
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    Agreed on both sectors.

    India really needs good, cheap infrastructure, since India's per capita GDP levels cannot sustain the financing costs of expensive infrastructure, but India has overcrowded cities that could really benefit from efficient transport and utilities.

    Likewise, with an aging population and middling incomes, China would also benefit from cut-rate generic drugs produced in mass volumes, which Indian firms excel at.
     
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    Very much true.

    I have never, ever, ever seen a Western newspaper or think tank article that encourages Russia, China, and/or India to stand together. Indeed, every single article is either neutral, or more often leans to pushing the three nations apart with whatever contrived facts they can come up with.
     
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    Increased trade and economic dependency will foster healthy bi-lateral relations between India and China.
     
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    Such business relation is good but not at the cost of even an inch of Indian territory or any other strategic compromises. Indian China can be great friends provided Chinese respect sovereignty of India and leave their claim over any Indian territory. Also they should return Aksaichin back as good friendly gesture.
     
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    Is this your opinion or is the claim based on a study of Chinese history?




    On any issue be it political, social or economic, China has always displayed total independence in views and policies and have not given way. Therefore, to believe that India will benefit from trade may not be totally true. China will ensure that whatever it does with India, it will be to her benefit and will not meet India or any other country even half way.

    China withstood the relentless hostility of the world during the Mao era with splendid isolation never buckling to the constant attacks on its political, social or economic philosophy and when she opened up to the world during Deng's era, they overhauled the world on their terms and not giving any quarters to any other country.
     
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    Once Indians and Chinese have more tourism and people to people contact and start thinking in terms of positive ,friendly future, it will not take long for them to mutually respect each other. This will discourage other powers and they will stop trying to create enmity between India and China.
     
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    Indians and Chinese can never mutually respect each other. It's a racial thing.
     
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    but western countries just want us to fight each other--- I agree with this point:thumb: , rest we have difference of opinion:thumb:
     
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    Can you kindly elaborate?
     
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    Fixed for you. :yo:
     
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    Border incursions by chinese is not a cooked up fact:thumb:
     
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    That trade needs to be on equal basis which is not.

    If China is serious about good relations then it needs to open its market for India and stop childish incursions on borders.
     
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    Chinese are not jokers. Nothing of what they do is "childish"
     
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