Russia commemorates 1969 Sino-Soviet Zhenbao/ Damansky Island War in a high-profile manner across Russia, irking China

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Russia commemorates 1969 Sino-Soviet Zhenbao/ Damansky Island War in a high-profile manner across Russia, irking China

During the event Russian official called the people who died in the Zhenbao Island War as heroes and said that the soldiers who died were heroes who resisted foreign aggression. Sino-Soviet border dispute, 1969: People's Liberation Army (PLA) troops ambushed Soviet border guards on then-disputed Zhenbao Island in the Ussuri River on Mar 2, 1969, initiating intensified border clashes between China and the USSR that would continue until a September ceasefire. This lasted for 7 months.
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[skywatcher]

The Chinese are yearning for Russia's far east and the Russians know this very well.

The Chinese long have a tradition of believing at least 2 million square kilometers of territory(2/3 the size of India) should be reclaimed.

 

[skywatcher]

The Chinese are yearning for Russia's far east and the Russians know this very well. View attachment 246358The Chinese long have a tradition of believing at least 2 million square kilometers of territory(2/3 the size of India) should be reclaimed.View attachment 246359
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Traditionally, the Chinese believe the Lake Baikal in Russia is China's northern natural border and the Lake Balkhash in Kazakhstan is China's western natural border,

which can justified by China's historical claims. So the Russians are quite wary of this. Locked in Ukraine war, Russians dare not risk losing grip on its vulnerable far east.

 

[skywatcher]

Traditionally, the Chinese believe the Lake Baikal in Russia is China's northern natural border and the Lake Balkhash in Kazakhstan is China's western natural border,View attachment 246360which can justified by China's historical claims. So the Russians are quite wary of this. Locked in Ukraine war, Russians dare not risk losing grip on its vulnerable far east.View attachment 246362
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Although those claimed regions are of lesser strategic importance from a modern point of view, they still carry symbolic meaning.

 

[skywatcher]

Maybe it's not too bad for the Chinese that Russia can be used to deter US & Japan alliance in north-eastern Pacific at least for the present so that the Chinese can focus on south eastern Pacific. aka. PRC's lover, Taiwan

 

[Azaad]

The Chinese are yearning for Russia's far east and the Russians know this very well. View attachment 246358The Chinese long have a tradition of believing at least 2 million square kilometers of territory(2/3 the size of India) should be reclaimed.View attachment 246359
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Chang , apart from gobbling up half of Kazakhstan , you've also gobbled up Mongolia . All this before you've moved into Port Arthur/ Vladivostok. Ideally the whole of China belongs to Mongolia since the maximum territorial extent of present day China including those enlarged borders whose map you've depicted here was first conquered by the Yuan dynasty , losing it during the Ming & regaining it once more during the Qing dynasty period.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

The Chinese are yearning for Russia's far east and the Russians know this very well. View attachment 246358The Chinese long have a tradition of believing at least 2 million square kilometers of territory(2/3 the size of India) should be reclaimed.View attachment 246359
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Tibet is more likely to become Indian territory than Russian far east is gonna be chinese.

 

[skywatcher]

Tibet is more likely to become Indian territory than Russian far east is gonna be chinese.

With Tibet in hand, the Chinese have geopolitical superiority over South Asia & mainland Southeast Asia, not just India.

 

[skywatcher]

Chang , apart from gobbling up half of Kazakhstan , you've also gobbled up Mongolia . All this before you've moved into Port Arthur/ Vladivostok. Ideally the whole of China belongs to Mongolia since the maximum territorial extent of present day China including those enlarged borders whose map you've depicted here was first conquered by the Yuan dynasty , losing it during the Ming & regaining it once more during the Qing dynasty period. View attachment 246374

The Chinese have a good reason to claim those regions

As you can see, northern part of Vietnam and Korea were basically inherent to the Chinese.

 

[skywatcher]

Chang , apart from gobbling up half of Kazakhstan , you've also gobbled up Mongolia . All this before you've moved into Port Arthur/ Vladivostok. Ideally the whole of China belongs to Mongolia since the maximum territorial extent of present day China including those enlarged borders whose map you've depicted here was first conquered by the Yuan dynasty , losing it during the Ming & regaining it once more during the Qing dynasty period. View attachment 246374

As you can see, those frontier regions were never Chinese and they were all obtained by military conquests

 

[GaudaNaresh]

With Tibet in hand, the Chinese have geopolitical superiority over South Asia & mainland Southeast Asia, not just India.View attachment 246376

yes, which is why we wont allow them to keep it.

 

[skywatcher]

yes, which is why we wont allow them to keep it.

Tibet is not your buddy, Pakistan is.

Imagine India & Pakistan & Bangladesh merge into one country with a population of over 2 billion.

half Muslim & half Hindu, it would be the most unique dual-core system in the world.

 

[skywatcher]

Traditionally, the Chinese believe the Lake Baikal in Russia is China's northern natural border and the Lake Balkhash in Kazakhstan is China's western natural border,View attachment 246360which can justified by China's historical claims. So the Russians are quite wary of this. Locked in Ukraine war, Russians dare not risk losing grip on its vulnerable far east.View attachment 246362
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For example, Chinese ruled northern part of Vietnam for over 900 years, which is obviously not a short period. It's normal for the Chinese to make some claims.

 

[Azaad]

Tibet is not your buddy, Pakistan is.View attachment 246383Imagine India & Pakistan & Bangladesh merge into one country with a population of over 2 billion.View attachment 246384 half Muslim & half Hindu, it would be the most unique dual-core system in the world.View attachment 246385

Neither is Tibet yours. Tibet should be independent & a buffer like it always existed between India & China . Take the buffer away & 2 great powers clash with each other as we're seeing now.

 

[Azaad]

The Chinese have a good reason to claim those regionsView attachment 246378 As you can see, northern part of Vietnam and Korea were basically inherent to the Chinese.
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That's what I remarked previously Chang . Zheng He in his many voyages also reached the shores in Eastern Africa where a good number of his sailors settled there & married local women.

All China has to do is stake claim to those areas based upon Zheng He's voyages & the fact he landed there with Chinese sailors settling there. I'm sure Africa is waiting for China to stake such a claim , claim citizenship of China , go to the mainland & boost their economic prospects .

Think of the advantages accrued to the ordinary Han male . Suddenly lots of African females become available to you & you don't have to be a "leftover man."

 

[AnantS]

Chang , apart from gobbling up half of Kazakhstan , you've also gobbled up Mongolia . All this before you've moved into Port Arthur/ Vladivostok. Ideally the whole of China belongs to Mongolia since the maximum territorial extent of present day China including those enlarged borders whose map you've depicted here was first conquered by the Yuan dynasty , losing it during the Ming & regaining it once more during the Qing dynasty period. View attachment 246374

China was never one single entity. heck during mauryan empire they were distant entity with massive tibet plateau in between - which was ruled by various turko - mongolic tribes time to time.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Tibet is not your buddy, Pakistan is.View attachment 246383Imagine India & Pakistan & Bangladesh merge into one country with a population of over 2 billion.View attachment 246384 half Muslim & half Hindu, it would be the most unique dual-core system in the world.View attachment 246385

Tibet is our buddy - their religion comes from us, their written language comes from us and through historic times, they traded with us more than with the changs.
So sorry to say, Tibet is ours culturally.

 

[skywatcher]

Neither is Tibet yours. Tibet should be independent & a buffer like it always existed between India & China . Take the buffer away & 2 great powers clash with each other as we're seeing now.

I don't know what you're talking about. Tibet was conquered by PRC half a century ago. China conquered lots of foreign lands. It's a tradition.

 

[skywatcher]

Tibet is our buddy - their religion comes from us, their written language comes from us and through historic times, they traded with us more than with the changs.
So sorry to say, Tibet is ours culturally.

So according to your logic, all of East Asia should rename itself as China.

 

[skywatcher]

Tibet is our buddy - their religion comes from us, their written language comes from us and through historic times, they traded with us more than with the changs.
So sorry to say, Tibet is ours culturally.

I don't have to say that since Indian script also uses the alphabet similar to the Aramaic alphabet, so it is debatable if it is original or at least heavily influenced by the middle east cultures