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[Hiranyaksha]

in fact, chinese employers adopt 2 ways to deal the the rapid~growth of chinese labour cost.


one is to move the labour~density workshops to low~income economies in southeast asia ,south asia and afirica.


the other way is to replace blue~collar workers with robots.

Everything you said make sense except China doesn't have prominent brands which can cater European and American markets.
Europeans and Americans already have shortage of blue collar workers and most of the factories are been automated. So European and American brands will still cater needs of their market because of existing brand loyalty, ability to innovate and create products of much more value and with new gain capability of producing cheap goods.
However, Chinese brands after automation of their manufacturing and assembly line will still be able to cater needs for markets such as India which is highly price sensitive market.

 

[Hiranyaksha]

in fact, chinese employers adopt 2 ways to deal the the rapid~growth of chinese labour cost.


one is to move the labour~density workshops to low~income economies in southeast asia ,south asia and afirica.


the other way is to replace blue~collar workers with robots.

Further automation is just not happening on blue collar end but also on white collar. Be it accounting or preparing case study to file litigation or middle management jobs , they are already replaced or in process of being replaced by AI .

 

[Armand2REP]

Only China would be proud of Taiwan (Foxconn) robots putting a million Chinese out of work.

 

[badguy2000]

Only China would be proud of Taiwan (Foxconn) robots putting a million Chinese out of work.

well，

the jobs foxcoon provides is so dull .with its current take~home salary (500-800usd/month usually), foxcoon can not recruit enough chinese blue~collar workers at all.

foxcoon either provides chinese workers better salary,or replace them with robots.
otherwise its factories in china would have to be closed due to the shortage of labors.



in fact,foxcoon once tried to replace factories in china with ones in southeast asia/india/brazil ,but such tries failed because education/discpline/professionism of blue~collar labors there is much poorer than chinese ones,industry~chains/infrastructure there is much poorer,and redtapism/beaucracy/corruption there is more prevails .

so,foxcoon now almost give up replacing factories in china with ones in southeast asia/south asia/brazil, instead of using robots in china.


BTW,
india/africa/southeast asia has many cheap labors,but their cheap labour are usually poorly~educated/unprofessional(compared with one in east asia) and is not qualified for industrialzation.

 

[IndianHawk]

well，

the jobs foxcoon provides is so dull .with its current take~home salary (500-800usd/month usually), foxcoon can not recruit enough chinese blue~collar workers at all.

foxcoon either provides chinese workers better salary,or replace them with robots.
otherwise its factories in china would have to be closed due to the shortage of labors.



in fact,foxcoon once tried to replace factories in china with ones in southeast asia/india/brazil ,but such tries failed because education/discpline/professionism of blue~collar labors there is much poorer than chinese ones,industry~chains/infrastructure there is much poorer,and redtapism/beaucracy/corruption there is more prevails .

so,foxcoon now almost give up replacing factories in china with ones in southeast asia/south asia/brazil, instead of using robots in china.


BTW,
india/africa/southeast asia has many cheap labors,but their cheap labour are usually poorly~educated/unprofessional(compared with one in east asia) and is not qualified for industrialzation.

Foxconn is establishing factories in India and in USA too.
The reason for slow progress in India is that India is not yet fully integrated with East Asian supply chain. Your main power logic is totally ludicrous.

Most of the chinese Mobile sold in India today are already made in India. Xiomi , coolpad ,Lenovo all are building mobile in india for some years now.

 

[Project Dharma]

for mature industrialized economies like USA/EU, china~made robots are cheaper than their home~made ones ,because workers/engineers in chinese robot workshops cost less than theirs, and chinese infrastrucutures/industry~chains can match theirs at least (if not better).

The problem you guys have is of brand value. Most Americans will not touch anything Chinese where safety is at stake. The recent Japanese airbag recall? If Takata was a Japanese brand, people would be out with pitchforks complaining about cheap Chinese products being used.

If GM has a manufacturing defect and it turns out that the robot was made in China, well GM's reputation will be shot.

People used to swear by Craftsman tools and they proudly had a "Made in USA" sticker.

Then Craftsman began outsourcing to China and their quality went down. Pretty much nobody will buy Craftsman anymore. They used to give a lifetime warranty. Now? You'd be lucky if they last an year.

Chinese manufacturing sucks. You guys are just a source of cheap trinkets and disposable things.

And please stop acting like robots are new. Ford has been using them for a while to assemble cars. The thing you people don't understand is that robots are not an avenue for cost cutting. You buy a robot for assembling something and a quality made one should last a long long time. And once even basic tools are automated, American and Western made trinkets can be competitive with China again. Big trouble for China ahead since that is literally China's only value addition to the whole planet.

 

[airtel]

such as building high-speed rail to many cities .

in fact, chinese employers adopt 2 ways to deal the the rapid~growth of chinese labour cost.


one is to move the labour~density workshops to low~income economies in southeast asia ,south asia and afirica.


the other way is to replace blue~collar workers with robots.

@badguy2000 but most of the Chinese are Doing Blue Color Jobs ......................Your country is Technically Inferior, all the Big electronics companies are American , Japanese , Taiwanese or south Korean .......all the Good companies in mechanical Engineering are European .


Chinese factories are just providing cheap labors .

 

[badguy2000]

@badguy2000 but most of the Chinese are Doing Blue Color Jobs ......................Your country is Technically Inferior, all the Big electronics companies are American , Japanese , Taiwanese or south Korean .......all the Good companies in mechanical Engineering are European .


Chinese factories are just providing cheap labors .

well,
chinese labour might be cheaper than the one of Usa/Eu/Japan, but obviously be more expensive than that of india/africa/southeast asia.

india is not in the position blahing how cheap chinese labour is,isn't it?


in fact, labour cost in mainland china is quite close to that in taiwan and east europe now.

do indians think labour in taiwan/east europe is cheap?

 

[badguy2000]

@badguy2000 but most of the Chinese are Doing Blue Color Jobs ......................Your country is Technically Inferior, all the Big electronics companies are American , Japanese , Taiwanese or south Korean .......all the Good companies in mechanical Engineering are European .


Chinese factories are just providing cheap labors .

besides,


are you aware that you are gaming china vs almost the whole developed world(usa+eu+s.korea+japan+taiwan)?

yes, china is inferior to them combined ,technically.

i do agree...hehe.

 

[airtel]

besides,


are you aware that you are gaming china vs almost the whole developed world(usa+eu+s.korea+japan+taiwan)?

yes, china is inferior to them combined ,technically.

i do agree...hehe.

not combined ...............japan is technically far superior than china , Korea is technically far superior than China ...................and dont even compare USA .

please tell me what new technology was developed in china ? your country is just doing Assembling or license production of most of the products .

Korean electronic companies LG/Samsung etc are far superior than any Chinese company .......................Korean cars Like Hyundai , KIA are famous in Entire planet .
same thing with Japan their electronic companies Like Sony , Panasonic etc are world famous .................their cars Suzuki , Honda Toyota etc are Top selling cars in the planet .

Any of these countries are far superior to China .................

I abount know about Africa .but In India we suffered just because of Cold wars ...........Indian Government was supporting USSR against NATO , and we did nuclear tests this is why Western countries did not invested in Indiaand choose China (enemy of USSR ) , we faced many sanctions while they were investing in China .

but now because of your govt. policies you are creating too many powerful Enemies and you will Face the consequences too .....................just wait & watch .

 

[badguy2000]

not combined ...............japan is technically far superior than china , Korea is technically far superior than China ...................and dont even compare USA .

please tell me what new technology was developed in china ? your country is just doing Assembling or license production of most of the products .

Korean electronic companies LG/Samsung etc are far superior than any Chinese company .......................Korean cars Like Hyundai , KIA are famous in Entire planet .
same thing with Japan their electronic companies Like Sony , Panasonic etc are world famous .................their cars Suzuki , Honda Toyota etc are Top selling cars in the planet .

Any of these countries are far superior to China .................

I abount know about Africa .but In India we suffered just because of Cold wars ...........Indian Government was supporting USSR against NATO , and we did nuclear tests this is why Western countries did not invested in Indiaand choose China (enemy of USSR ) , we faced many sanctions while they were investing in China .

but now because of your govt. policies you are creating too many powerful Enemies and you will Face the consequences too .....................just wait & watch .

even japanese/s.koreans themselves are not sure that their techs are ahead of china.

as an indian,you seem to be more confident on tech of japan/s.korea than japanese/korean themselves.

1. china/soviet has a much more broad industry/tech base than japan/s.korea.
japanese/s.korean industry/tech base has many sections mssing.
with its broad industry/tech base,china/Soviet could built ICBM/NUKE SUB/j20/AC/spaceships/supercomputers.while japan/s.korea can not.

2. Japan/s.korea indeed has edge on china as for some industry/tech sections such as auto/semiconductors,although their tech base is mich narrower.


3. korea/japan's tech edge on china in limited sections is fading rapidly.

for example.Japanese highspeed trains/samgsumg smartphone/their shipbuilding are being asskicked by chinese rivals All over the earth.

besides, s.koean auto now is encountering a marketshare collapse in china.

 

[Vijyes]

even japanese/s.koreans themselves are not sure that their techs are ahead of china.

as an indian,you seem to be more confident on tech of japan/s.korea than japanese/korean themselves.

1. china/soviet has a much more broad industry/tech base than japan/s.korea.
japanese/s.korean industry/tech base has many sections mssing.
with its broad industry/tech base,china/Soviet could built ICBM/NUKE SUB/j20/AC/spaceships/supercomputers.while japan/s.korea can not.

2. Japan/s.korea indeed has edge on china as for some industry/tech sections such as auto/semiconductors,although their tech base is mich narrower.


3. korea/japan's tech edge on china in limited sections is fading rapidly.

for example.Japanese highspeed trains/samgsumg smartphone/their shipbuilding are being asskicked by chinese rivals All over the earth.

besides, s.koean auto now is encountering a marketshare collapse in china.

China is only slightly better in terms of high technology manufacturing compared to India. China definitely has far better mass manufacturing than India but that is in low end sectors. The high end devices even today are not made in China.

China is ahead of India by 5 years and India is soon catching up. India gets ToTs to some extent from Western countries like France, Russia and to a good extent from Israel. That will help in fastening Indian advances in terms of high end manufacturing. In 10 years, India and China are likely to be on similar footing in high technology manufacturing. But the problem of population ageing with Han chinese fertility at 1.4 is the real problem

 

[airtel]

even japanese/s.koreans themselves are not sure that their techs are ahead of china.

as an indian,you seem to be more confident on tech of japan/s.korea than japanese/korean themselves.

1. china/soviet has a much more broad industry/tech base than japan/s.korea.
japanese/s.korean industry/tech base has many sections mssing.
with its broad industry/tech base,china/Soviet could built ICBM/NUKE SUB/j20/AC/spaceships/supercomputers.while japan/s.korea can not.

2. Japan/s.korea indeed has edge on china as for some industry/tech sections such as auto/semiconductors,although their tech base is mich narrower.


3. korea/japan's tech edge on china in limited sections is fading rapidly.

for example.Japanese highspeed trains/samgsumg smartphone/their shipbuilding are being asskicked by chinese rivals All over the earth.

besides, s.koean auto now is encountering a marketshare collapse in china.

blah blah blah ........do you really think that japan can not build ICBM ?

even north Korea can make make ICBM are they ahead of south Korea ??

do You really thing that Samsung Phones are asskicked By Chinese rivals ??

are You that ignorant ?

why you buy a xiaomi phone what you get ??

1. processor by Qualcomm snapdragon (American company )
2. ram & memory by Samsung (south Korean )
   
3. screan by spark (japan) or Samsung (south korean)
   
4. camera sensors by sony (Japanese ) , samsung (Korea) or Toshiba (japan )
   
5. Battery by Lg (south Korean ) or Sony (Japan ) , license Production by Chinese
   
6. Android operating system By Google ( American company )
   
7. and mobile assembled by Foxconn (Taiwanese company )

how Chinese are technically superior to South Korea or Japan ? and who told You that their technical edge is fading ??

 

[Project Dharma]

well,
chinese labour might be cheaper than the one of Usa/Eu/Japan, but obviously be more expensive than that of india/africa/southeast asia.

india is not in the position blahing how cheap chinese labour is,isn't it?


in fact, labour cost in mainland china is quite close to that in taiwan and east europe now.

do indians think labour in taiwan/east europe is cheap?

Are you people so insecure you have to bring in India onto every question? @airtel mentioned how you are a source of cheap labor from the perspective of Western countries and you agreed. Jeez. Insecure lizards.

 

[Project Dharma]

blah blah blah ........do you really think that japan can not build ICBM ?

even north Korea can make make ICBM are they ahead of south Korea ??

do You really thing that Samsung Phones are asskicked By Chinese rivals ??

are You that ignorant ?

why you buy a xiaomi phone what you get ??

1. processor by Qualcomm snapdragon (American company )
2. ram & memory by Samsung (south Korean )
   
3. screan by spark (japan) or Samsung (south korean)
   
4. camera sensors by sony (Japanese ) , samsung (Korea) or Toshiba (japan )
   
5. Battery by Lg (south Korean ) or Sony (Japan ) , license Production by Chinese
   
6. Android operating system By Google ( American company )
   
7. and mobile assembled by Foxconn (Taiwanese company )

how Chinese are technically superior to South Korea or Japan ? and who told You that their technical edge is fading ??

Oh man, this was brutal. If he has any shame, he won't come back to this thread lol

 

[Sledge]

One day Artificial Intelligence will take over... I think, it will start from China

 

[Vijyes]

One day Artificial Intelligence will take over... I think, it will start from China

It will not take over. Kalki will take over and it will be from India

 

[badguy2000]

blah blah blah ........do you really think that japan can not build ICBM ?

even north Korea can make make ICBM are they ahead of south Korea ??

do You really thing that Samsung Phones are asskicked By Chinese rivals ??

are You that ignorant ?

why you buy a xiaomi phone what you get ??

1. processor by Qualcomm snapdragon (American company )
2. ram & memory by Samsung (south Korean )
   
3. screan by spark (japan) or Samsung (south korean)
   
4. camera sensors by sony (Japanese ) , samsung (Korea) or Toshiba (japan )
   
5. Battery by Lg (south Korean ) or Sony (Japan ) , license Production by Chinese
   
6. Android operating system By Google ( American company )
   
7. and mobile assembled by Foxconn (Taiwanese company )

how Chinese are technically superior to South Korea or Japan ? and who told You that their technical edge is fading ??

ok......

it is really meaningless to argue with indians which cock is bigger between chinese and japanese/korean/usa,isn't it?


whatever you accept can not change the reality,can it?

reality is that chinese like me do not put japan/s.korea on the screen any more.


and taiwan?


50%+ of taiwanese youth are rushing to mainland china for better salary/future now,because taiwanese salary is less than that in coastal mainland now.

 

[Project Dharma]

ok......

it is really meaningless to argue with indians which cock is bigger between chinese and japanese/korean/usa,isn't it?


whatever you accept can not change the reality,can it?

reality is that chinese like me do not put japan/s.korea on the screen any more.


and taiwan?


50%+ of taiwanese youth are rushing to mainland china for better salary now,because taiwanese salary is less than that in coastal mainland now.

It does not matter whose cock is bigger becausw China gets down on its knees and sucks every single one!

 

[badguy2000]

It does not matter whose cock is bigger becausw China gets down on its knees and sucks every single one!

in fact, case is that many states are in queue up to such china's dick for aid/ AIIB/OBOR

as for usa and china.

sometimes, yankees suck china's dick when they ask china to help them deal with T~bonds and N.korea.


sometimes,china suck yankees' for their help of trade/taiwan...


in a word, usa/china are sucking each other's