China False Paradise

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  1. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    China's child labour

    [video]21 Century slavery China's child labour[/video]

    I saw a post indicating horrors of Indian women.

    Check what a paradise China is.



     
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    Only way to keep the price of products low !
     
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    There are issues in all countries, but I love the way the Chinese here gloat about how humane, error free (unlike others as they love to point out) China is.

    But then they are genetically construct hypocrites.
     
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    there are labor issues in china where worker work 12hr etc. however, those worker work there willingly, make about 2000yuan/month, doesn't mean its ok to work that long hr in harsh condition but they chose to have a job then live in a poverty stricken town. as for child labor its against china law, if its found the owner is pretty much punished, especially in recent years. doesn't meant there aren't any greedy ceo dont use child labor.
    so yes in term of women rights, china is better. Mao give woman the same right as men after PRC established.
     
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    these videos are old videos or vidoes citing old pictures. And there are so many pics from India and other poor nations, why are they labeled as China child labor“??????? even for those few pics on Chinese children, I have seen the same pictures/videos over and over again for 10 years, which are pasted on forums, social network by Chinese liberals or Democrats or even foreign-sponsored organizations to make ppl hate the government. They just want to use old pictures/videos to make ppl unhappy and hate CCP. Before, many Chinese netizens would like to spread such pictures/videos on social network coz they are totally shocked and angry, but now they have become calm coz more and more current situation has been exposed and they know what is the current reality.


    While child labor is widespread in India, as you know, child labor in China has been breaking news now.
    And for these rare cases, these kids are usually doing in summer vocation to obtain some extra money, or kids who don't want to go to school. And they are usually above 14 or 16 years old.
     
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    Old or new, it still thrives in China.

    Give us another fairy tale that these don't exist in China.

     
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    Read what @s002wjh has to say.

    It exists and one cannot be an ostrich and wish it away.
     
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    if you read carefully, you will notice the year these authors mentioned are like 2005, 2007, even though one article was written in 2010.
    Even for 2007 or 2005, child labor issues are still news but not common scene. The literacy rate of China is more than 95%, and espcially it could approach 100% for younger generation. This means children in China nearly all receive mandatary 9 year education in school.

    while the literacy rate of India is only around 70%, which means a lot of Indian children are not in schools. And the schools in India is so terrible , as shown in this video:
    TubeChop - China vs India - Race to the Top of the World - Documentary by BBC (02:53)

    so it is easy to conclude that the child labors are widespread in India by logic, and proof:
















    blabla
     
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    @esolve,

    Child labour is universal and so will it be in India.

    But for you Chinese pretending that there is no child labour in China is pure and unmitigated balderdash. And to add insult to injury, you continue to crank in your lyng through you teeth, unabashedly.
     
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    We never said there is no single chila labor case in China. What I said is it is very rare cases in China nowadays, but In India is it very common, that is the difference
     
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    Oh yes, rare!

    As rare as Noodles in China, right? [​IMG]
     
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    as rare as breaking news.
     
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    Great that you remembered this poem.

    That is news to me.

     
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    As I told you, it could be breaking news. And if really there is a child labor case, a lot of journalists will be very happy coz they will have business. And then a lot of reports will appear on different media. people begin to criticize and curse the government. Government official and police will begin to take action, detain the employers and send these children back home. And then donation will flood into these children.

    This year, there is a case. A child called Liujin Yang. He is an orphan. A TV program, in order to make a breaking news, told a lot of lies about him. In this program, Yang's life is very terrible: he is badly treated by his relatives and have to work in the fields after school, eat very terrible food and live in a shanty house. Then the government got involved. The society began to donate for him. You know how much donation he got? more than 5 million RMB (1 US dollar = 6 RMB). But, the audience and society got disappointed later, coz this program exaggerated a lot of things. Yang's life is not so terrible as shown in the TV program.
     
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    How much news comes out of China or even with China?

    A totalitarian country that loathes the 100 Years of National Shame (and which they cannot hide), is going to open up the ills that plague China?

    Wishful thinking.
     
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    Inside China, only news about political struggle among top leaders or corruption of those top leaders or news about revolution will be censored/deleted. Any other kind of news is freely propagated. And the media just love those dark side news coz it attracts attention and then profits from advertisement. You know how happy those journalists will be when they get those dark side news.
    Outside China, news about political struggle among top leaders or corruption of those top leaders or news about revolution will be greatly/enormously propagated coz there are a lot of oppotions parties/dissidents. When there are not enough news, these ppl will create a bunch of fake news.

    that's it.
     
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    That is a fine fairy tale!

    Check out the censorship aspect of China.
     
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    I have told you that the censorship is towards the political struggle among top leaders or corruption of those top leaders or news about revolution
    but still many ppl inside China know these issues coz social network can't cersor/delete such information on time
    there is no need for the government to censor other issues nowadays.
     
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    Tried Falun Gong?

    Is that politics and power struggle?

    Google?

    Political power struggle?

    Man, you take the cake with blind loyalty and closed eyes!

    And you are the Champion of fibbing.
     
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    Falungong is a combination of revolution and political power struggle.
    There are some central government officials who used Falungong for power struggle.
    Google, Facebook are banned coz they can be used to propogate political struggle among top leaders or corruption of those top leaders or news about revolution
     

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