China circled by chain of US anti-missile systems

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  1. bhramos

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    China circled by chain of US anti-missile systems

    Washington appears determined to surround China with US-built anti-missile systems, military scholars have observed.

    According to US-based Defense News, Taiwan became the fifth global buyer of the Patriot missile defense system last year following Japan, the Republic of Korea, the United Arab Emirates and Germany.

    Quite a few military experts have noted that Washington's latest proposed weapon deal with Taiwan is the key part of a US strategic encirclement of China in the East Asian region, and that the missiles could soon have a footprint that extends from Japan to the Republic of Korea and Taiwan.

    Air force colonel Dai Xu, a renowned military strategist, wrote in an article released this month that "China is in a crescent-shaped ring of encirclement. The ring begins in Japan, stretches through nations in the South China Sea to India, and ends in Afghanistan. Washington's deployment of anti-missile systems around China's periphery forms a crescent-shaped encirclement".

    Ni Lexiong, an expert on military affairs with the Shanghai Institute of Political Science and Law, told the Guanghzou Daily yesterday, "The US anti-missile system in China's neighborhood is a replica of its strategy in Eastern Europe against Russia. The Obama administration began to plan for such a system around China after its project in Eastern Europe got suspended".

    Tang Xiaosong, director of the Center of International Security and Strategy Studies with Guangdong University of Foreign Studies noted that the ring encircling China can also be expanded at any time in other directions. He said that Washington is hoping to sell India and other Southeast Asian countries the Patriot Advanced Capability (PAC)-3 missile defense system.

    Analysts say that China is closely monitoring US-India missile defense cooperation since any integration of India into the US global missile defense system, would profoundly affect China's security.

    However, according to former Chinese Ambassador to India Pei Yuanying, India is unlikely to be part of any such US scheme against China.

    "New Delhi needs to develop relations with the US, but it wants to be an independent international power on the international arena," he said.

    Pei said it was necessary to take multiple aspects of China-US relations into consideration. "The US has followed the policy of engagement plus containment with China for a long time and that overall policy will not change during Obama's term," he said.

    Defense News quoted John Holly, Lockheed's vice president of Missile Defense Systems as saying the outlook for the missile defense market remains sound.

    Pointing to missile programs in Pyongyang, Teheran, Moscow and Beijing, Holly said "the world is not a very safe world and it is incumbent upon us in the industry to provide (the Pentagon) with the best capabilities."

    Beijing has frequently criticized US missile-defense development and has been making efforts to restrict missile defenses through the United Nations forums.

    Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi told a UN disarmament conference in August in Geneva that "countries should neither seek for absolute strategic predominance nor develop missile-defense systems that undermine global strategic stability."

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2010-02/22/content_9481548.htm
     
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  3. mattster

    mattster Respected Member Senior Member

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    The US is doing the exact same thing to China that China is doing to India.
    Engage and Contain. Sell your products and have a robust trade relationship but keep them pinned down defensively.

    India needs to shed its non-aligned baggage from the past and slowly move into the US/Nato/Australia/Asean Camp.
    All these countries share common values in democracy and common issues in terrorism etc.
    So its only natural that they ally together.
     
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    Well, India can be a partner with those sharing common values.

    I doubt we will become an ally in the sense of being part of a treaty organization against any country.
     
  5. amoy

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    Q's
    * are there really any 'values' in common among India and these would-be 'allies', and to what degree? (Indian-styled democracy seems deviating from the West's 'orthodox' from an 'outsider's point of view despite that the West sometimes flatters India - no offensive) and how critically are such 'values' playing in a marriage of convenience?
    * do all these entities all see China as such a threat that they need to join hands to counter? for example within Asean there're Malaysia, Thai, Cambodia, Viet... and Burma.
    * how are these countries getting along with China respectively? e.g. Australia counts on China as its top mineral importer. S. Korea/Japan have a huge trade surplus with China. Asean will enter into FTA with China. They're more or less engaged with China economically and politically though being competitors in some ways.
    * are all these forces in 'harmony' with converged interests for such a crusade? for instance how about Burma vs. India, Indonesia vs. Aus.?

    late PM of Aus. Howard (?) also called for such an alliance to 'contain' China. Has it ever worked with such a group coming to being?

    It's sheerly a wishfull thinking in regards of 'China's containing India', or 'allying against China'. China needs to focus on its own business and is far from any hegemony.

    the US (the only super power) is on alert for any contender. China happens to be the whipping boy for now.
     
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    Wait, do we have American AB missiles in India? Since when?
     
  7. LETHALFORCE

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    India tried to be part of a Japanese/australia/USA alliance but Australia quickly dropped out.
     
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    Its going to be a marriage of convenience. India has always followed an independent foreign policy. Right now cooperating with the US is in indian interest. So yes india will try to exact as much as it can from the US which in return wants india on board to contain china. US will arm india so that china is pinned down. China should know the taste of that as its the exact same thing it does to india via pakistan.
     
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    ^^ Pakistan is almost a client state of China. India is never going to be that.

    India will spend her own money for any weapon acquisitions and is not going to make an open enemy of China. We will continue to engage China as well as try to counter it.
     
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    We don't have any American ABM technology here. We just had some powerpoint slides about the Patriot.
     
  11. LETHALFORCE

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    we don't have any American ABM, but USA has offered Patriot and Aegis, if THAAD is offered that is what should be taken, but USA did work with us and Israel in our AWAC's.
     
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    Actually, Yusuf, its the US that arms Pakistan more than China or KSA. Its the US that keeps Pakistan afloat otherwise there would have been no Pakistan or atleast no PA(the same PA which runs jihadi terrorism against India under its nuclear umbrella). Thus, its US which is bigger villian as far as India is concerned.

    Also, mostly US works with states that are subservient to it. A vibrant democracy with independent geopolitical goals cannot become an ally of US. Also, US is not arming us, we would have to buy it with our cash. This is the same that we do with Russians or French or anyone else. So, US is doing to no special favour to us here.

    India must therefore try to patch up a new coalition of south american countries and asean countries while simultaneously engaging both US and China without pinning our hopes too much on either of them(US or China). Also we can depend on Israel and Russia a bit more when it concerns our defence deals compared to US.

    Pakistan is a state that lives by being client state of US, China and KSA simultaneously. Thus, as far as India is concerned China cannot drive us into US' arms. We need to play our cards right and play one against the other if possible depending on the situation. China, for instance, is our partner in resisting the pressure of US in climate talks. US is our partner in nuke deal(which 'hurts' China's emotions).
     
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    chinis are so so hipocrate, they forget there own strings of pearl policy in Indian Ocean against India and are now crying like a baby for the US policy.
     
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    This is pure business, Umrikans are only money makers! They are the Iron Mongers.. >>>>>>
    Develop breakthrough technology, use it to threaten the world. After a decade equip every country with same tech & use that money to again develop newer technology... xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Ultimate aim is to create insecurity. As the International insecurity increases the no. of clients also increases. Every other state gets hostile & wants the same stick bought by its neighbor from Uncle Sam. If they would have been actually working on "Engage & Contain" policy, we would have been living in ONE happy global hippie commune holding hands in hands singing songs of peace & brotherhood.

    And how is china circled by this so called MISSILE DEFENSE SYSTEMS?? China has a professional Military force with very sophisticated Missile systems. These small countries mean no resistance to its Geographical Military ambitions if any. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    This is just another product selling strategy. iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
    They are rushing deals because other newer & better than PATRIOT System can come in market developed by other countries. They are saturating the only available market. [[[[[[[[[

    BTW Now since Indian Armed Forces are showing full confidence, how about exporting AKASH??
    Lets encircle Pakistan! LOL! ssssssssssssssssssss
     
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    who is going to buy such a costly missile ???
     

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