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@ WARREN SS he told me to compare. Looks like the Indigenous Indian seeker is massively heaver and has bigger antenna but has far worse performance. The large weight of the seekers will degrade its range and maneuverability too. So much for that superior Indian technology.

Based on your pompous argument India is more advanced then France, United Kingdom, Israel and many other countries. This research and development can mean anything such as developing efficient sanitation so people don’t deficate on the streets or solving city congestion and pollution. Russia...

Excuse me, how does this prove superiority? The entire frenzy was Indian members claiming superiority over Russia. Russia has duel pulse motors and AESA seekers. So again explain to me how India is ahead especially since it often relies on foreign help.

Yep still uses old Russian seeker: https://www.defensenews.com/air/2016/12/19/indian-astra-missile-still-needs-russian-tech-to-find-targets/ Even in 2020 India is still working on seeker...

Buddy the latest super duper seeker technology from India found the in the Astra still used an old Russian seeker :lol: Again how do you know India surpasses Russia in seekers technology? Russia doesn’t even have a prototype of what? Russia have revealed AESA radars for its missiles years ago...

Russian military spending is believed to be as much as 180 billion a year USD when rubbles are converted. They had a 650 billion rearmament plan. So India does not spend anywhere near Russia, nor does it have the experience. Almost everything India produces is heavily reliant on foreign help...

1. Where is your source India was offered R-77-1 and it rejected it? 2. India was never offered or given the R-77M or K-77M. It is still under Russian state testing as of 2020. 3. Why would India want to replace Russian A2A missiles only to order a large batch of them, and then use the R-77...

No India never was offered latest Russian BVR because it is not even in active Russian service. So explain how India would get the K-77M? By your logic the AIM-260 is crap too because India has not got it’s hand on it either. You repeating your worthless and unfounded opinions does not...

NATO has already studied old S-300s since Greece operates them. S-300s are old and not invisible. They need a layered defense of short, medium and long range air defenses as well as jammers and competent crews to be fully effective. Azeris used a Harpy to destroy a 1970s era S-300 that was not...

So Russian missiles suck but when I pointed out a number of modern Western aircraft getting shot down by Russian missiles in recent years now suddenly you move the goal post and tell me to show F-35s getting shot down, an aircraft that is barely operational, by that token the no one has shot...

This is a load of BS. You should at least bring some facts and examples instead of baseless claims. Firstly the S-400 has never tried engaging any Israeli aircraft, but even an Israeli F-16 was shot down by an old S-200 when it climbed too high. Same fate for a Turkish EW F-4 and dozens of their...

And those ‘upgrades’ offer AESA and take the range from 80-100km up to 192km? Even if the K-77M had an old R-77 radar, which it doesn’t, it has AESA plus inertial navigation, the simple fact that it has more then double the range of the R-77 would give it a massive advantage over the R-77. If...

Okay I agree with you, K-77M is crap and now I’m totally convinced India magically got access to the classified K-77M project for some reason. Thus this really does prove how bad the missile is despite more then double the range of the R-77 and an AESA Radar and almost 4 times the range of...

Why would India not ask to integrate Derby or Mica? India is known to operate a very vast array of missiles, some with a lot of redundancy. India was never actually involved in the Pak-Fa program. Only some agreements were signed, there was then reportedly disagreements between work share and...

It’s not even active in the RuAF so there is no way India could have bought or integrated it. The K-77M was only recently spotted in the SU-57 and SU-30. With a range believed to be around 192km, as well as AESA (which has many benefits such as wider scanning capabilities and better jamming...

There is no official range numbers for Meteor, nor does the Meteor have any relevance to the MKI program. Besides that the K-77M far outranges the Aim-120C5.

Except the MiG-25 made its first flight before the SR-71....

It’s not obsolete, it has been upgraded and now fires everything from R-37Ms (reportedly up to 400km range) to anti satellite weapons to ballistic missiles. The speed and altitude of the MiG-31 makes it very difficult to shoot down. For comparison the MiG-25, which is inferior in weapons...

Or India can incorporate the K-77M:

I wonder if these new missiles will ever be incorporated in the MKIs? My guess is yes. It looks like the first images of the K-77M.