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    Russian involvement in Syrian crisis

    Don't really consider private media sources to be liars, so much. They'd often "misrepresent" things to conform to the their users stereotypes. Aren't a big fan of the BBC, so slag them off all you want, I'm on your side. Wasn't trying to really make a point the media, more how the bald faced...
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    Russian involvement in Syrian crisis

    Any media source which "has people" should be treated with suspicion. The online Russian media sources I'm familiar take lying to unbelievable level of stupidity
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    Russian involvement in Syrian crisis

    http://www.smh.com.au/world/raghad-khanfoura-the-fouryearold-victim-of-russian-airstrikes-20151104-gkqemu.html Some extracts from the story; The Russians have flatly dismissed all claims of civilian casualties or damage, saying they use various intelligence sources to plan each strike to make...
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    Russian involvement in Syrian crisis

    So Apaches, in your opinion, aren't unarmoured anymore, the pilots compartment is armoured now. Yeah, your comment isn't correct. I'd correct you, but my reply's going to get deleted and if you're talking about pistols and a bizarre interpretation of US doctrine I can't be bothered. You need to...
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    Russian involvement in Syrian crisis

    APache's primary mission, that it was designed for, may have been anti-tank. But, apart from Gulf War 1, pretty much all it's done has been could be described as fire support missions. The Apache is most definitely armoured. It's designed to withstand hits from 23mm. Although clearly old...
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    Russian involvement in Syrian crisis

    Well yeah, many times. Old Testament, I'm not so familiar with. But, the Gospels sure.
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    Russian involvement in Syrian crisis

    But they do receive federal tax money in contradiction of Jesus's teaching of rendering unto Caesar in Mark 12:17
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    Russian involvement in Syrian crisis

    Particularly liked the phrase "Näkemysten kirjo on itse asiassa niin laaja, että asiantuntijuus on kärsinyt inflaation." (Asiantuntijuus is a misspelling, right?) To translate, and provide partial context, the article is saying (to paraphrase) that the media is full of people who have...
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    Russian involvement in Syrian crisis

    They're soldiers, following orders and going off to kill Muslim extremists, what's not to like? Russia's an international irrelevance, Putin's a nobody and whatever interpretation evil little trolls in the internet make of events, shouldn't change your opinion of those brave boys in the photo...
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    Russian involvement in Syrian crisis

    Best of luck for those boys, they've got an important job. Is that helicopter one of those Mi8/ million year old transport helicopters? Good bit of kit for its role. But, if they're going to be going somewhere "hot" i.e. to pick up a pilot who's been shot down, you wouldn't want to be in a big...
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    Russian involvement in Syrian crisis

    Israel and France have a history... Presume you mean back in the 50-60's when France embargoed Israel, after the France had sold them all sorts of hi-tech gear. That was a very, very different time. Have heard that the Saudi's paid for Egypt's new ships and yes, Egypt has lots of top draw kit...
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    Russian involvement in Syrian crisis

    Interesting article. Doesn't really surprise me that Russia spend 4.5% of GDP on the military. Am not an economics guy, but that might actually be a bit sensible given the rest of their economy is dying. What military equipment is India still buying from Russia? How much of that $15.5 billion...
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    Russian involvement in Syrian crisis

    Sorry droog, but that post doesn't make much sense. What's Lavrov talking about? Where did you hear that? the Russian economy might be run from London, but FSA? So you think Russian forces in Syria aren't legal and are foreign invaders? Apart from maybe Turkey and a bigger maybe in Israel or...
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    Russian involvement in Syrian crisis

    Sure, I certainly wouldn't trust DW too much. Any non white person, who spouts what ever garbage they want, would be put forward by them as an expert on which ever story they are covering
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    Russian involvement in Syrian crisis

    Thanks, so even the Russian's own, state controlled, media isn't claiming they've attacked ISIS? Not sure who/ what Debka are. But yeah, those reports were quite bizarre. One of the forum's more reliable posters had posted some links from Pravda about how the Chinese are contributing forces to...
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    Russian involvement in Syrian crisis

    Any, preferably non Russian, press about the Russians attacking actual ISIS, not "Al Qaida", or that Chinese aircraft carrier turning up?
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    Russian involvement in Syrian crisis

    OK, I sort of get what your trying to say. Sorry to seem to bail out, but I'm not too interested in hypothetical discussions about International Relations. But, as it was me that responded to you I should have the decency to reply. I can't see how Russia can defend Assad without fighting ISIS...
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    Russian involvement in Syrian crisis

    Don't really agree (to be honest I'm not fully sure what you're trying to say) with any of that. But, I'm not going to argue with you. While it's setting the bar incredibly low, Assad is less bad in comparison to ISIS. I'd, personally, be very happy for a strong Syrian state, even if it's an...
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    Russian involvement in Syrian crisis

    Am constantly surprised by the extent of the pro Russian sentiments on this, an Indian, website. There's only superpower, China will become one too soon enough and India has the potential to be one. That's the whole list, ignoring the EU. Russia's an insolvent European (+some other bits)...
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    Russian involvement in Syrian crisis

    If they wont to protect Assad, then they'll have to attack ISIS eventually. But yes, I agree with your description. Any help they send will be focused on "US backed Al Qaeda" and they'll rely on the western air support to keep the Kurds and other anti ISIS+ Assad groups alive. Although...
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