Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Is coronavirus a biological warfare agent released by China?

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captscooby81

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CIPLA fought a similar battle like this against these big pharma to supply more affordable Medicine for HIV to across the world . before that Big pharma used to fleece patients with their sky high prices and drug patents

All giants will go after BB because it is Indian. These scums are not able to digest, how can an Indian company have own vaccine and second most imp point Modi is PM who will be praised after end of this pandemic bcz of vaccine. Whatever they do, common man trust our scientists more than them(Baring Imani PIECEful peoples).
 

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hmmmm... so is covaxin meant for general use or its still in phase 3 clinical trials, which it seems to be in currently going by various accounts. if its technically in p3 clinical trials, where is the question of 'approving' it? so is the trial going to be on general population in case of 'emegency situation'?

Btw, Cadila's zycov-D is also in phase 3 trials currently.

'I have no clue. I have never seen anything like it'

Read more at:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
As both the vaccines will already be given to only health and frontline workers so, here the idea is that one vaccine will go with authorisation and another one will only be given to a certain set of people, who in turn will be on strict surveillance it will be like 3rd phase but on the field no Placebo nothing or say those who are at more risk of getting infected with the mutant covid because the second one is more effective for those ones also - this is what i got from all the readings
 

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CIPLA fought a similar battle like this against these big pharma to supply more affordable Medicine for HIV to across the world . before that Big pharma used to fleece patients with their sky high prices and drug patents
Cipla was copying, mixing other drugs. This is original work and if the price is as indicated, less than ₹100, it’s pretty much game over for the others. No wonder some attempted discrediting is happening. Guys like Tharoor sicken me, political point scoring on this is utterly reckless and damaging to the company and India itself. I guess for some, the distinction between opposing Modi and opposing India has truly got blurred.
 

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How Bharat Biotech’s Vaccine Works
By Jonathan Corum and Carl ZimmerJan. 4, 2021



The Indian company Bharat Biotech partnered with the National Institute of Virology and the Indian Council of Medical Research to develop an inactivated coronavirus vaccine called Covaxin. India authorized the vaccine for emergency use on Jan. 3, despite a lack of published Phase 3 data showing the vaccine is safe and effective.
A Vaccine Made From Coronaviruses
Covaxin works by teaching the immune system to make antibodies against the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus. The antibodies attach to viral proteins, such as the so-called spike proteins that stud its surface.


Spikes
Spike
protein
gene
To create Covaxin, Bharat Biotech used a sample of the coronavirus isolated by India’s National Institute of Virology.
Killing the Virus
Once the researchers produced large stocks of the coronaviruses, they doused them with a chemical called beta-propiolactone. The compound disabled the coronaviruses by bonding to their genes. The inactivated coronaviruses could no longer replicate. But their proteins, including spike, remained intact.


Inactivated
genes
Beta-
propiolactone
The researchers then drew off the inactivated viruses and mixed them with a tiny amount of an aluminum-based compound called an adjuvant. Adjuvants stimulate the immune system to boost its response to a vaccine.
Inactivated viruses have been used for over a century. Jonas Salk used them to create his polio vaccine in the 1950s, and they’re the bases for vaccines against other diseases including rabies and hepatitis A.
Prompting an Immune Response
Because the coronaviruses in Covaxin are dead, they can be injected into the arm without causing Covid-19. Once inside the body, some of the inactivated viruses are swallowed up by a type of immune cell called an antigen-presenting cell.


Engulfing
the virus
Digesting
proteins
ANTIGEN-
PRESENTING
CELL
Presenting
virus protein
fragments
HELPER
T CELL
The antigen-presenting cell tears the coronavirus apart and displays some of its fragments on its surface. A so-called helper T cell may detect the fragment. If the fragment fits into one of its surface proteins, the T cell becomes activated and can help recruit other immune cells to respond to the vaccine.
Making Antibodies
Another type of immune cell, called a B cell, may also encounter the inactivated coronavirus. B cells have surface proteins in a huge variety of shapes, and a few might have the right shape to latch onto the coronavirus. When a B cell locks on, it can pull part or all of the virus inside and present coronavirus fragments on its surface.
A helper T cell activated against the coronavirus can latch onto the same fragment. When that happens, the B cell gets activated, too. It proliferates and pours out antibodies that have the same shape as their surface proteins.


ACTIVATED
HELPER
T CELL
Activating
the B cell
B CELL
Matching
surface proteins
INACTIVATED
CORONAVIRUS
Stopping the Virus

Once vaccinated with Covaxin, the immune system can respond to an infection of live coronaviruses. B cells produce antibodies that stick to the invaders. Antibodies that target the spike protein can prevent the virus from entering cells. Other kinds of antibodies may block the virus by other means.



ANTIBODIES
LIVE
VIRUS
Remembering the Virus
Covaxin is being tested in two doses, given four weeks apart.



First dose
Second dose
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If Bharat Biotech’s Phase 3 clinical trial demonstrates that Covaxin protects people against Covid-19, researchers will have to observe it for months to see how long that protection lasts. It’s possible that the level of antibodies will drop, but the immune system also contains special cells called memory B cells that might retain information about the coronavirus for years or even decades.


Vaccine Timeline
June, 2020
Covaxin is the first coronavirus vaccine created in India to be approved for clinical trials.

July A Phase 1/2 clinical trial begins with 755 participants.

September Results from monkey and hamster studies show that Covaxin provides protection against infection.

Oct. 23 The company announces a Phase 3 trial with up to 25,800 participants.

 

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Cipla was copying, mixing other drugs. This is original work and if the price is as indicated, less than ₹100, it’s pretty much game over for the others. No wonder some attempted discrediting is happening. Guys like Tharoor sicken me, political point scoring on this is utterly reckless and damaging to the company and India itself. I guess for some, the distinction between opposing Modi and opposing India has truly got blurred.
there is just too much money already sunk in by BIG PHARMA to allow an unknown 3rd world country upstart to topple the estimated BIG $$$ earnings. Imagine what the ultra expensive pfizer et al would do if a cheap covaxin is allowed to be used worldwide!
 

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there is just too much money already sunk in by BIG PHARMA to allow an unknown 3rd world country upstart to topple the estimated BIG $$$ earnings. Imagine what the ultra expensive pfizer et al would do if a cheap covaxin is allowed to be used worldwide!
Big Pharma dominates in High profit margin medicines and vaccines.
Just compare India and Switzerland. India produce far more quantity of medicines and drugs compared to Switzerland but Switzerland earns far more than India despite much lower production because they are captured the high end medicine market. They sell drugs on absurdly high costs compared to Indian ones.
They all are trying their best to keep Indian companies from supplying generic version of their higher cost medicines.
 

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Big Pharma dominates in High profit margin medicines and vaccines.
Just compare India and Switzerland. India produce far more quantity of medicines and drugs compared to Switzerland but Switzerland earns far more than India despite much lower production because they are captured the high end medicine market. They sell drugs on absurdly high costs compared to Indian ones.
They all are trying their best to keep Indian companies from supplying generic version of their higher cost medicines.
Well, in this case drugs like covaxin and zycov-D are NOT generic but brand new innovations. These will dent the egos and bottom lines of the BIG BOYS without any doubt.

India's biggest chance to go one up on the 1st and 2nd world pharmas, if all goes fine.
 

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Our countries politics has gone down to the lowest level this country had ever seen .

Imagine MD of Bharat Biotech Dr.Ela going on giving interview and saying his clinical trail participants were not given paracetomal to hide the side effects like Astrazeneca .

Our opposition thugs had pushed scientific thing into a mud slinging match for political reasons

Feel like thoooing on these oxford educated morons

Cipla was copying, mixing other drugs. This is original work and if the price is as indicated, less than ₹100, it’s pretty much game over for the others. No wonder some attempted discrediting is happening. Guys like Tharoor sicken me, political point scoring on this is utterly reckless and damaging to the company and India itself. I guess for some, the distinction between opposing Modi and opposing India has truly got blurred.
 

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Our countries politics has gone down to the lowest level this country had ever seen .

Imagine MD of Bharat Biotech Dr.Ela going on giving interview and saying his clinical trail participants were not given paracetomal to hide the side effects like Astrazeneca .

Our opposition thugs had pushed scientific thing into a mud slinging match for political reasons

Feel like thoooing on these oxford educated morons
i agree with one thing Dr.Ella said. If an indian company did the data fudging that oxford did (error in dosage), the owner will be in jail. Ironically, that same vaccine with very low efficacy even with full dosage, is getting max publicity.

Congee stooges have got maha egg omlette on their faces after all this tamasha.
Shampoo tharoor should realise the only thing 'premature' was his wife's death.
 

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Centre asks Tamil Nadu to 'immediately' revise order on allowing theatres, cinema halls to open at full capacity


Mega money no doubt rides on mega-star film releases. But bartering lives for money making during these covid v2.0 days is puzzling.

@Holy Triad - were there any political under currents to the original open-100% order?
 

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@Holy Triad - were there any political under currents to the original open-100% order?
There are two major (stupid) reasons for that,and none of them can justify the order.

One,Theater owners (Association) are pandering relentlessly gormint for a year,as many medium budget guys started releasing their movies on streaming platforms.

Two,
This stupid actor vijays new film is up for the pongal release,so he personally groveld eps to open up the theaters.
In recent times, he has been bit vocal "against" the gormint,since this is an election year and all,ruling party is hoping to get his fanbois on their side by "helping him"

In recent times,TN has been hitting pretty low positive and casualty rates,so,this is two steps backward...
 

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This stupid actor vijays new film is up for the pongal release,so he personally groveld eps to open up the theaters.
Short sighted and highly immature govt order if this is true. I personally believe even 50% occupancy is too much (only one empty seat between 2 occupied seats, it should ideally be only 25% occupancy for 6 feet distancing for 2-3 hours of closed air conditioned area).

Looks like lots of TN guys themselves were up in arms against this order. Saw a news item of a JIPMER doctor appeal to Vijay saying medical staff is tired of continous work and this move is ill timed.
 

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Short sighted and highly immature govt order if this is true. I personally believe even 50% occupancy is too much (only one empty seat between 2 occupied seats, it should ideally be only 25% occupancy for 6 feet distancing for 2-3 hours of closed air conditioned area).

Looks like lots of TN guys themselves were up in arms against this order. Saw a news item of a JIPMER doctor appeal to Vijay saying medical staff is tired of continous work and this move is ill timed.

Forget 50pc,25pc capacity,I personally don't mind them shutting them for a while(at least till the vaccination process is over)

It also has a social factor we must consider,Like a recovering alcoholic,due to this shut down the fanbois actually starting to spend their time on actually usual things.



The doc made valid points but who is gonna listen to proper common sense. There is lethargic mindset among awaam that the coof is "harmless",and it is based on those asymptomatic patients.






Edit: someone filed a pil in Madurai hc branch which is due for hearing tomorrow.

MHA also send an warning letter to tn govt to withdraw this G.O.,so there is some hope
 

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is this a case of iam-honest-in-reporting-you-are-not?

btw central team in KL is an action replay of what happens in 'Virus' movie ... sanghi-commie tussle :)
 

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China Grudgingly Concedes India's Covid-19 Vaccines Are Good
An article in the China Communist Party's mouthpiece, Global Times, states: "Experts suggested that India's vaccines are no less competitive than Chinese Covid-19 vaccines in both research and production capacity, considering that India has the world's largest vaccine manufacturer and lower costs in labour and facilities."


why the fuck we care about what china says..
sinovac is a top failure..idiot chinese trying to be relevant
 

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Beijing on alert after COVID-19 spike in neighbouring province; 9 million vaccinated in China


The rise of cases in Hebei sent Beijing on alert as the capital, besides housing the country’s top leaders, is getting ready for the annual Parliament session from March 5 during which over 5,000 legislators and advisers would converge.

 

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Two Made-In-India Covid Vaccines Ready To Save Humanity: PM Modi

 

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already some mullos r crying saying these vaccines r haram....will may harm their fertility......
say no to polio
say no to vaccin
 

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China Grudgingly Concedes India's Covid-19 Vaccines Are Good
An article in the China Communist Party's mouthpiece, Global Times, states: "Experts suggested that India's vaccines are no less competitive than Chinese Covid-19 vaccines in both research and production capacity, considering that India has the world's largest vaccine manufacturer and lower costs in labour and facilities."


why the fuck we care about what china says..
sinovac is a top failure..idiot chinese trying to be relevant
And chinese vaccines are being said to be least effective of all global vaccines out there.
 

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