What is best calibre for an Assault Rifle?

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thanks kunal for information of Rfi hope it will b a tough compitition like Mmrca and some thing best come out of it i personally like masada bushmaster with changable caliber but if bullup then Kel-Tec RFB which uses SLR 7.62 magine hope they can learn from masada to interchange caliber.
 

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From very good sources, I come to know Berrata is ahead of all..
 

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It his only advantage is weight. But in jungles or city, better имет a 1 cartridge of 6,8-7,6мм, what 10 cartridges 5,45-5,56. Do you know how many injured was the ricochet of people in Bender (Transnistria)?
You don't want ricochets injuring innocent people. You want it to lodge in the intended target. When the 5.56mm can handle ranges of 300-500m causing knockout injury it is an appropriate calibre easily carried. The KE applied to the target is not so important as long as you hit it. If you need more, use snipers or SAW.
 

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There is a new AR which use M43 rounds and have range over 400m..



Trichy assault rifle
Kunal please explain how this gun can hit a target beyond 400mts as the effective range of M43 when fired from ARs are below 250mts.400+ range could be achieved only it is fired from LMGs like Rpk or tabuk sniper which have long barells.Here in case of Indian weapon the barell is not that much lengthy to shoot over a distance of 400mts.I think the range and over effectiveness is much hyped as usually happens in every OFB products.
 

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From very good sources, I come to know Berrata is ahead of all..
Isn't the same sources had earlier given a green signal to procure Beretta carbines which later turnes out to be faulty and was not worth the cost. ITs true that beretta is one of the leading weapons manufacturer with a long history but selecting it with out comparing with other weapons in this league like cz805,Scar,Ak12 would led to many suspicions plus as we are going to purchase a huge quantity we should also keep in mind about the prices too.
 

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i thought berrata in 50 caliber gun do they have assault rifle. wat is its specification.
beretta ARX-160 Most Probably:


5.56mm


7.62x39mm

There will be more variants..

Kunal please explain how this gun can hit a target beyond 400mts as the effective range of M43 when fired from ARs are below 250mts.400+ range could be achieved only it is fired from LMGs like Rpk or tabuk sniper which have long barells.Here in case of Indian weapon the barell is not that much lengthy to shoot over a distance of 400mts.I think the range and over effectiveness is much hyped as usually happens in every OFB products.
Effective range of M43 fired from AKM is 200ms straight..

From LMG such as RPD & tabuk is 600ms..

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Its barrel length is more than AKM and possible had to do with Rifling Groves, 400ms from new genration Rifles with barrel length of 460+mm is quite possible..

Isn't the same sources,as we are going to purchase a huge quantity we should also keep in mind about the prices too.
My source is from OFB official at defexpo, Regarding Price is worth spending on something good..
 

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I do not know what targets in IA. Here targets for firing from an AR:
- - a pectoral target with circles is put on 100 meters and she does not fall
- - a pectoral target is 200 meters
- - a half-length target for novices (later machine gun calculation, heavy grenade launcher) is 300 meters
- it is a figure in the full-length - 400 meters
- -APC are 500 meters.
10 cartridges are given out soldier . First three shots single on a figure with circles. Other by short gunfire on distace 300, 400 meters. A norm is handed over, if all targets are staggered.
This exercise of пis intended and for АКМ and АК- 74 (without a difference).
 
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Akim more about the accuracy of the AK with the M43 cartridge.
 

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Before one decides the best calibre, define what an "assault rifle" is !! then one may be able to decided quickly and easily....
 

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Which ever does the job would do, whether it is an assault rifle or battle rifle or whatever
 

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Akim more about the accuracy of the AK with the M43 cartridge.
There are 100 meters on distance, where firing goes on a target with circles, a difference is not present between АК- 74 and АКМ. And in the distance 400 meters from 7,62 it is simpler to shoot what from 5,45. Less than it is necessary amendments. Main to shoot short automatic fire. . After the third shot, getting is practically impossible.
 
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The assault rifle became the standard military rifle in the post-World War II era.
The Soviet Union led the way with the AK-47, and other nations followed later.
Combat experience during the World Wars had shown that most infantry combat took place at 200-300 meters distance and that the winner of any given fire fight would most likely be the one with the highest rate of fire.
The rifle cartridges of the day were therefore unnecessarily powerful, producing recoil and report in exchange for marginal benefit. The lower power of the intermediate cartridge meant that each soldier could carry more ammunition and could fire more bullets faster than older model rifles.

Assault rifle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

* Assault is either a defensive assault or offensive assault.... assault is carried out in physical terms ( as against fire assault) between 300 - 200 m or I would say between 300 and 100 m. It required accuracy and consistency as also higher volume of fire.

* Below 100 m is the CQB battle which also the assault rifles should be able to handle. required very high volume of fire as also reliability.

Keep these in mind what should be the ideal calibre and weapon system !
 

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There are 100 meters on distance, where firing goes on a target with circles, a difference is not present between АК- 74 and АКМ. And in the distance 400 meters from 7,62 it is simpler to shoot what from 5,45. Less than it is necessary amendments. Main to shoot automatic fire. . After the third shot, getting is practically impossible.
Sorry, you are saying that there's no difference when firing within 100m, but when firing at 400m it is difficult for the M43?
 

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Sorry, you are saying that there's no difference when firing within 100m, but when firing at 400m it is difficult for the M43?
You can shoot beyond 400m with M43, Given your barrel length is longer..
 

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Assault rifle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

* Assault is either a defensive assault or offensive assault.... assault is carried out in physical terms ( as against fire assault) between 300 - 200 m or I would say between 300 and 100 m. It required accuracy and consistency as also higher volume of fire.

* Below 100 m is the CQB battle which also the assault rifles should be able to handle. required very high volume of fire as also reliability.

Keep these in mind what should be the ideal calibre and weapon system !

These are old school theories...

Now days dedicated Carbine are going away replaced by compact AR with ranges over 300m, People who have written these rules long back are no longer apply these in there own military, Brits, Russian, US for example or any developed country with well established high experienced Home based arm industry..
 

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