USA China Cold War

[LETHALFORCE]

They have a few subsonic and lesser ranges supersonic missiles nothing gamechanging imo but IRBM will change the game.
Though this is just rambling of fools like as it will not happen
Anyway FUCK CHINA

Taiwan is outside US's nuclear umbrella so if needed any deterent would have to have usa's willingness to
become directly involved.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

 

[mokoman]

i wouldnt be surprised if she shows up in Tawang or the LAC tommorow .

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Looks like the democratic party wants to distance themselves from Biden; and his appeasement of china ?

 

[maximus777]

Looks like the democratic party wants to distance themselves from Biden; and his appeasement of china ?

However this good cop-bad cop ruse works well in terms of optics. CCP has become a laughing stock of the world. For once Zelenskiy is not the comedian in focus! At the same time, though CCP's ego is bruised, it's still not hurt enough to fly off the handle. Masterstroke-wa?

 

[no smoking]

I think GoI should also send high level delegation. Opinion?

For what? A political show for India internal audience only.
Each year, there are quite a lot different countries delegations visiting Taiwan. But none of them get the attention as American's. Why, because USA is the only one has the will (even though is fading) and capability to send the troops to defend Taiwan. All the others are just political show.
In the case of India, Taiwanese simply doesn't believe that India has such a capability.

 

[Marliii]

For what? A political show for India internal audience only.
Each year, there are quite a lot different countries delegations visiting Taiwan. But none of them get the attention as American's. Why, because USA is the only one has the will (even though is fading) and capability to send the troops to defend Taiwan. All the others are just political show.
In the case of India, Taiwanese simply doesn't believe that India has such a capability.

Why make a massive ruckus then ? Now you guys became the laughing stock of the world .could have just issued some protests but your ego was so big that you had to make shootdown threats and even move your tanks around beaches only to do nothing

 

[skunk works]

Why make a massive ruckus then ? Now you guys became the laughing stock of the world .could have just issued some protests but your ego was so big that you had to make shootdown threats and even move your tanks around beaches only to do nothing

The J16s were on their way to shoot down Pelosi's plane but never made it because the pilots started mas******ing in the Cockpit.
https://nypost.com/2017/08/25/excessive-masturbation-is-hurting-chinas-military/

 

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The Nancy Pelosi visit to Taiwan- An Analysis by Lt Gen P R Shankar (R)

The Nancy Pelosi visit to Taiwan- An Analysis by Lt Gen P R Shankar (R)

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Where does it leave China and XI? With an egg on the face. This episode has proven that there is very little that China can do when the USA decides to do something. There is a huge contrast which is emerging. USA is engaging Russia in a proxy war, sorting out terrorists in Afghanistan and handling China simultaneously. China is not able to deter even one adversary! It will be a folly to count out US military power and think that China is an all-conquering military. It will do us well to recount that China has a limited military reach. Secondly, this entire episode has been played out at China’s door step. Any belligerent action against US assets or any firefight would have resulted in damage to life and property on Chinese mainland on its prosperous East Coast. Would it be politically acceptable to China?

China is going through a lean economic patch. It is struggling under the weight of its Zero Covid policy. Its real estate sector and BRI are under huge stress. Its tech sector is in trouble. Loss of jobs and pay cuts are real. Its internal consumption is weak. It has to depend on exports to sustain its economy. Any dispute or a conflict in the vicinity of its coast will result in an automatic naval self-blockade, adverse effect on global shipping, and disruption of its exports. That will hit China badly. In turn it will show Xi Jinping in poor light and reflect on his incompetence. In any case, the outcomes of any conflict are unpredictable high risk factors. In such eventuality will Xi Jinping take the risk of any further escalation at this stage? He will seek stability at his door step. He will do nothing till the 20th Party Congress happens and his third term is secured. Politics trumps everything else in China. The stakes are too high for an escalation with USA. China will find different ways and time to get back at USA. In the meantime, China has found international support from Russia, Iran and Pakistan.



The popular opinion is that China will punish Taiwan. The expectation is also that it can mount an invasion to usurp Taiwan when this episode is over. That won’t happen for many reasons. Firstly, as Putin has found out in Ukraine, war is a high risk option with no guarantees of a positive outcome. If Taiwan does a Ukraine act, we might not only see the end of a super power dream but might see the finish of communism in China. That is too big a risk for China to take any time. Secondly, an amphibious operation across 160 -230 km of open ocean is the most complicated military operation even for an experienced military force. The English Channel with a width varying from 35-150 km could not be crossed by Hitler’s well trained, battle hardened and superbly led Wehrmacht. Generals of the calibre of Von Rundstedt, Manstein, Rommel and Model demurred at such a crossing during the second world war. The Chinese do not have the training, expertise, and capability to carry out the most complicated form of conventional operations. Also do not get fooled by all talk of cyber capabilities, AI, 5th generation war et al. Discussions on these topics ceases when Artillery starts firing and people start dying. An analysis of a cross strait amphibious operation in detail @ Win The Taiwan Battle and Lose the China War indicates that China does not have the capability or wherewithal to invade Taiwan and usurp it militarily. At this point of time , China is an empty vessel making lot of noise.

Lastly as stated once by Tsai Ing- wen ‘A failure to defend Taiwan would not only be catastrophic for the Taiwanese, but it would overturn a security architecture that has allowed for peace and extraordinary economic development in the region for seven decades’. To that extent, the world will change forever. If and when China usurps Taiwan it would have broken the first Island Chain completely and will become a military superpower without doubt. That is something the world and USA cannot afford. Neither can India. Cooperation with Taiwan will do us well. This is also the time to put forth our position on the issue without ambiguity. Mere chest thumping rhetoric will not do us good.

 

[Kumata]

Max they will do, is have some intrusion-like power play, maybe even shoot down a one or two Taiwanese jets to show their "strong" power, and then de-escalate.

Exactly what i wrote few pages back Captain.. while people were predicting jugs getting burst in midair and all sorts of ifs & buts.

China as much try to threaten world with dire consequences but it's just hogwash. Think world have seen the extreme of eleven & CCP with US calling the bluff...they lost a lot in this skirmish due to their own wolf diplomacy.

Fact remains that they got gang banged by our own desi niggas of Bihar regiment .. Taiwan backed by US & all their might is on another planet...4K Videos aside, In real combat u need fighters ..PLA ladyboys are no match ...U don't with with Pussies..
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Below sums up..

 

[Dark Sorrow]

Chinese will retaliate with sending high level delegation to pok .

We should invite high level delegation from Taiwan to India and announce trade deal with special consensus to all stuff that chinese have banned from Taiwan recently.

That ship has already sailed.
Xi Jinping's has visited Pakistan.
They support Pakistani terrorist in UN.
They have not wasted one opportunity undermine Indian interest.

 

[NutCracker]

The J16s were on their way to shoot down Pelosi's plane but never made it because the pilots started mas******ing in the Cockpit.
https://nypost.com/2017/08/25/excessive-masturbation-is-hurting-chinas-military/

Pilot got hold of Wrong Center Stick..

 

[Dark Sorrow]

For what? A political show for India internal audience only.
Each year, there are quite a lot different countries delegations visiting Taiwan. But none of them get the attention as American's. Why, because USA is the only one has the will (even though is fading) and capability to send the troops to defend Taiwan. All the others are just political show.
In the case of India, Taiwanese simply doesn't believe that India has such a capability.

In return for TSMC setting up semiconductor foundry in India and semiconductor research project with India.
It is not necessary for us to send troops to Taiwan. US and its allies in Pacific can do that.
Their are always ways we can help Cheen Peedit Samaaj (Translation : Countries under threat from PRC). This help need not always be militarily.

 

[Dark Sorrow]

Pilot got hold of Wrong Center Stick..

Is this true or satire?

 

[Dark Sorrow]

A good analysis and perspective

 

[Assassin 2.0]

 

[tribendra bisoi..]

lol

 

[Blademaster]

If I may be permitted to do so, I would like to make a bold prediction. CCP at its next Congress will call for a huge expansion of its naval forces. They would most likely accelerate the building of more aircraft carriers, landing ships, LHPs, long range bombers in stealth and non stealth mode, greater number of long range missiles, and greater number of planes. They will use this latest episode of Taiwan to justify the huge military expansion. And they will support Russia to check further expansion by the West.

They will figure out a way to overcome the restrictions on the semiconductor industry. The will and desire is there and more importantly, they have the money.

 

[jai jaganath]

If I may be permitted to do so, I would like to make a bold prediction. CCP at its next Congress will call for a huge expansion of its naval forces. They would most likely accelerate the building of more aircraft carriers, landing ships, LHPs, long range bombers in stealth and non stealth mode, greater number of long range missiles, and greater number of planes. They will use this latest episode of Taiwan to justify the huge military expansion. And they will support Russia to check further expansion by the West.

They will figure out a way to overcome the restrictions on the semiconductor industry. The will and desire is there and more importantly, they have the money.

Yes u r right
This entire move will no lead to Chinese increasing their building capacity though the latest building capability is too huge
They are not like us if they get slapped they come back stronger and better

 

[srevster]

Yes u r right
This entire move will no lead to Chinese increasing their building capacity though the latest building capability is too huge
They are not like us if they get slapped they come back stronger and better

There is a new arms race