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[The3Amigos]

Good luck using soviet computers

MCST has pretty good chips. Of course, they do need SMIC to build chips with such small nodes.

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[The3Amigos]

I smell the low level patch-up (read work towards G2 model) between the Tumor & the Cancer of the world.

US and China Hold First High-Level Military Talks in More Than a Year.

US and China Hold First High-Level Military Talks in More Than a Year

Gen. Charles Q. Brown Jr. spoke with his counterpart from China Dec. 21, the first senior military-to-military talks since November 2022.

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Other nations needs to be very cautious of these two mlechha hellholes

The US always betrays its allies. Guaranteed.

 

[Azaad]

 

[Tshering22]

Japan always could develop their nuclear weapons. It is just that they are not allowed to by the United States, by the same set of rules that forbid them from having any offensive capabilities. Article 9 bans them from having a basic military, let alone holding strategic WMDs.

They are just sitting on the option because the Americans want someone to play the whole anti-nuclear weapons mascot. As Japan has been under US military occupation since 1945, there is little option for them but to comply. A nuclear-armed Japan would not need the US to deter its adversaries -this is a no-no for the Americans who want to stay and hold on to their post in the Pacific.

Losing Japan and South Korea would leave them with a base in the Philippines, Australia and Guam, which are not enough according to them. The Japanese and Koreans are financing the American bases as a part of their partnership.

 

[Blademaster]

Japan always could develop their nuclear weapons. It is just that they are not allowed to by the United States, by the same set of rules that forbid them from having any offensive capabilities. Article 9 bans them from having a basic military, let alone holding strategic WMDs.

They are just sitting on the option because the Americans want someone to play the whole anti-nuclear weapons mascot. As Japan has been under US military occupation since 1945, there is little option for them but to comply. A nuclear-armed Japan would not need the US to deter its adversaries -this is a no-no for the Americans who want to stay and hold on to their post in the Pacific.

Losing Japan and South Korea would leave them with a base in the Philippines, Australia and Guam, which are not enough according to them. The Japanese and Koreans are financing the American bases as a part of their partnership.

FYI American military occupation ended in the 50s. There are no American troops walking around with their rifles unslunged and rounds chambered under their own command in Japan. Sure there’s a force security agreement but hardly the stuff of occupation.

 

[Concard]

Japan always could develop their nuclear weapons. It is just that they are not allowed to by the United States, by the same set of rules that forbid them from having any offensive capabilities. Article 9 bans them from having a basic military, let alone holding strategic WMDs.

They are just sitting on the option because the Americans want someone to play the whole anti-nuclear weapons mascot. As Japan has been under US military occupation since 1945, there is little option for them but to comply. A nuclear-armed Japan would not need the US to deter its adversaries -this is a no-no for the Americans who want to stay and hold on to their post in the Pacific.

Losing Japan and South Korea would leave them with a base in the Philippines, Australia and Guam, which are not enough according to them. The Japanese and Koreans are financing the American bases as a part of their partnership.

Japan and South Korea's security is guaranteed by USA including nuclear umbrella. If Japan wants to go nuclear it means they have no faith in USA to guarantee their security. One can't blame the Japanese if they want to opt for Nuclear weapons given that there is no guarantee from USA that they will be able to protect them if China ever attacks their islands which they claim as their own. Will US go to war against China for a tiny little islands where hardly anyone lives? That's a million dollar question. If China occupies Taiwan without US putting up a fight then both Japan and South Korea will arm themselves with whatever they want to. They won't give a fuck about any agreement made 75 years ago.

 

[IndianHawk]

It is just that they are not allowed to by the United States, by the same set of rules that forbid them from having any offensive capabilities. Article 9 bans them from having a basic military, let alone holding strategic WMDs.

And yet Japanese have one of largest and most capable military forces in Asia.
They have lots of f15 and f35s both of which are clearly very offensive capabilities.

 

[IndianHawk]

Japan and South Korea's security is guaranteed by USA including nuclear umbrella. If Japan wants to go nuclear it means they have no faith in USA to guarantee their security. One can't blame the Japanese if they want to opt for Nuclear weapons given that there is no guarantee from USA that they will be able to protect them if China ever attacks their islands which they claim as their own. Will US go to war against China for a tiny little islands where hardly anyone lives? That's a million dollar question. If China occupies Taiwan without US putting up a fight then both Japan and South Korea will arm themselves with whatever they want to. They won't give a fuck about any agreement made 75 years ago.

US itself Is pushing all its allies to contribute more to deter china. Many in USA strategic circles are calling for Japan to become a nuclear power.

Nuclear submarine for Australia under aukus deal is the beginning of a new era where USA will push its allies for maximum deterrent against chicoms.

 

[Hari Sud]

And yet Japanese have one of largest and most capable military forces in Asia.
They have lots of f15 and f35s both of which are clearly very offensive capabilities.

Probably true but they have no will to fight. Their will to fight was taken away by their pacifist constitution, authored by America after WW2. Japanese are still stuck with it which does not permit its armed forces to go beyond its borders.

 

[IndianHawk]

Probably true but they have no will to fight. Their will to fight was taken away by their pacifist constitution, authored by America after WW2. Japanese are still stuck with it which does not permit its armed forces to go beyond its borders.

That has more to do with ageing society.
Still japs won't accept Chinese domination that's why they are increasing defence spending and seeking alliances like quad.

 

[maximus777]

That has more to do with ageing society.
Still japs won't accept Chinese domination that's why they are increasing defence spending and seeking alliances like quad.

Losing Abe was a blow. They would be militarizing a lot quicker under him.

 

[Hari Sud]

That has more to do with ageing society.
Still japs won't accept Chinese domination that's why they are increasing defence spending and seeking alliances like quad.

Adding more money to their defence budget is for internal security and neighbourhood sea lanes protection. That America allowed Japanese to be self sufficient. They still cannot go beyond their borders, export war materials and run to defend anybody who comes under Chinese or Russian threat without US approval.That limits their foreign policy and all activities at sea or air.

 

[IndianHawk]

Adding more money to their defence budget is for internal security and neighbourhood sea lanes protection. That America allowed Japanese to be self sufficient. They still cannot go beyond their borders, export war materials and run to defend anybody who comes under Chinese or Russian threat without US approval.That limits their foreign policy and all activities at sea or air.

They are buying more and more f35 . Surely they are not just for sea lane protection.
They are also joining next gen fighter effort with uk which is to procure separate platforms from America.

 

[no smoking]

If China occupies Taiwan without US putting up a fight then both Japan and South Korea will arm themselves with whatever they want to. They won't give a fuck about any agreement made 75 years ago.

Really? What kind of weapons do they want? Except north Korea, no one wants their land. What do they really need to protect? Economic interest, market, resource supply, free ocean transportation, etc. All these can't be protected by 100 or 200 nuclear warheads but a powerful navy.

But when you have a big country like China sitting on your door way, there is not much that your navy can do no matter how powerful they are. That is why you still need US navy.

 

[maximus777]

Really? What kind of weapons do they want? Except north Korea, no one wants their land. What do they really need to protect? Economic interest, market, resource supply, free ocean transportation, etc. All these can't be protected by 100 or 200 nuclear warheads but a powerful navy.

But when you have a big country like China sitting on your door way, there is not much that your navy can do no matter how powerful they are. That is why you still need US navy.

This is precisely why they need nukes - for deterrence! It will stop being a pen!s measuring contest at that point. In theory, PLA/PRC tries to be adventurous, Japs cant resist them beyond a point and then its MAD. Whether Japs are crazy enough to do it is another story, but I dont think PLA/PRC would like to find out. Who knows what can happen if the Japs can somehow find their samurai cojones!

 

[shade]

Japan always could develop their nuclear weapons. It is just that they are not allowed to by the United States, by the same set of rules that forbid them from having any offensive capabilities. Article 9 bans them from having a basic military, let alone holding strategic WMDs.

They are just sitting on the option because the Americans want someone to play the whole anti-nuclear weapons mascot. As Japan has been under US military occupation since 1945, there is little option for them but to comply. A nuclear-armed Japan would not need the US to deter its adversaries -this is a no-no for the Americans who want to stay and hold on to their post in the Pacific.

Losing Japan and South Korea would leave them with a base in the Philippines, Australia and Guam, which are not enough according to them. The Japanese and Koreans are financing the American bases as a part of their partnership.

Japan and South Korea's security is guaranteed by USA including nuclear umbrella. If Japan wants to go nuclear it means they have no faith in USA to guarantee their security. One can't blame the Japanese if they want to opt for Nuclear weapons given that there is no guarantee from USA that they will be able to protect them if China ever attacks their islands which they claim as their own. Will US go to war against China for a tiny little islands where hardly anyone lives? That's a million dollar question. If China occupies Taiwan without US putting up a fight then both Japan and South Korea will arm themselves with whatever they want to. They won't give a fuck about any agreement made 75 years ago.

Japan and Kpopistan are latent Nuclear states, they can build nukes if they want to, they have the industrial base required.
It's just that making their own nukes would make them a tad bit independent which Shyam Kaka wouldn't like.

 

[Blademaster]

Japan and Kpopistan are latent Nuclear states, they can build nukes if they want to, they have the industrial base required.
It's just that making their own nukes would make them a tad bit independent which Shyam Kaka wouldn't like.

They can build rudimentary nuclear devices such as fission based nukes but not thermonukes. That would require massive resources and testing. That means at least 10 years of research and development which is something they have not done now.

 

[Concard]

Really? What kind of weapons do they want? Except north Korea, no one wants their land. What do they really need to protect? Economic interest, market, resource supply, free ocean transportation, etc. All these can't be protected by 100 or 200 nuclear warheads but a powerful navy.

But when you have a big country like China sitting on your door way, there is not much that your navy can do no matter how powerful they are. That is why you still need US navy.

You answered your own question. Yes, they need the US navy exactly because of Chinese attitude of wanting to make neighboring countries as their vassal states. That's exactly why both South Korea and Japan depend on US for their security protection. And what do you mean by no wants their land? Doesn't China claim Senkaku islands?

We all know this geopolitical game. China wants to control shipping lines and want subservience of the countries in Asia at the very least. And China's attitude of claiming entire South China Sea where many countries have EEZ doesn't give Japan and South Korea confidence that China will deal with them fairly. Americans are not going anywhere and they won't bat an eyelid if Japan and South Korea wants to arm themselves to their teeth.

 

[no smoking]

You answered your own question. Yes, they need the US navy exactly because of Chinese attitude of wanting to make neighboring countries as their vassal states. That's exactly why both South Korea and Japan depend on US for their security protection.

Korea and Japan had been US's allies long before Chinese has a decent navy.

And what do you mean by no wants their land? Doesn't China claim Senkaku islands?

Taiwanese also claim Senkaku islands, so US is protecting Japan from Taiwan's invasion?
Japanese also has island dispute with Korea, so US is protecting who against whom?

We all know this geopolitical game. China wants to control shipping lines and want subservience of the countries in Asia at the very least.

This is called local hegemony. Isn't that the same thing that India is seeking in sub-continent?

And China's attitude of claiming entire South China Sea where many countries have EEZ doesn't give Japan and South Korea confidence that China will deal with them fairly.

For the countries which are US's bitches, both of them can't decide their own foreign policies. So, it is laughable to talk about their confidence.

Americans are not going anywhere and they won't bat an eyelid if Japan and South Korea wants to arm themselves to their teeth.

Well, both of them can't decide what they can have or can't have. It is American's call.
If, only if, Americans leave Asia, it will be more likely Chinese call.

 

[Joydeepghosh1976]

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