US puts $10 million bounty on Hafiz Saeed's head

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Has someone mentioned in this thread that recently CIA has found that he had contacts with OBL (I saw an American gentleman revealing this on TimesNow)?

Saeed is the same guy who mourn OBL death and organized mass prayers next day for him.
Yes American news outlets are saying that recent revelation from the documents obtained in Abottabad compound clearly linking Saeed & OBL communications led to US to put Saeed on bounty list of selected elites.
 

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US bounty on Hafiz Saeed meant to shut him down not eliminate him - The Times of India

WASHINGTON: The United States does not intend to eliminate Pakistani military's posterboy terrorist Hafiz Saeed with a Drone attack or by any other means. The $ 10 million bounty announced this week by the Obama administration is aimed primarily at shutting down Saeed's terrorism operations even as Washington attempts to bring him to justice for the Mumbai carnage.

A close reading of the Rewards for Justice notification issued by the Justice Department reveals that the "up to $ 10 million" bounty is for "Information leading to the arrest or conviction of Hafiz Saeed," unlike the "Wanted" notice posted against Ayman Al Zawahiri and others with an implied call for their outright elimination.

"An informant could be eligible for a Rewards for Justice reward payment if his or her information were to lead to Saeed's conviction in any US or foreign court of law for his terrorist acts," an administration official clarified on Tuesday, implicitly discounting his elimination.

In effect, the US hopes that fear of arrest or conviction through evidentiary leak will compel Saeed to shut down future plans even if it does not result in his conviction for the Mumbai carnage, even though the State Department says he "participated in the planning of the four-day long terrorist attack."

"Saeed and his organization continue to spread ideology advocating terrorism, as well as virulent rhetoric condemning the United States, India, Israel, and other perceived enemies," the State Department said in a media note separate from the RfJ announcement.

Although administration officials did not directly explain why Saeed is being spared a death warrant, the scuttlebutt is that Washington does not want to aggravate the situation with the Pakistani security establishment, which engineered the Lashkar-e-taiba/Jamaat-ul-dawa and protects its supremo.

Saeed himself seldom goes beyond his lair in Lahore and Islamabad/Rawalpindi to be in the crosshairs of a Drone attack. On Tuesday, he was taunted on TV by a Pakistani lawmaker who challenged him to go and preach his anti-American message in Fata, with the implicit suggestion that he would be eviscerated by a Hellfire missile.

Instead, Saeed on Wednesday burrowed himself in Rawalpindi, the garrison city that is the Pakistani Army's headquarters, and in turn taunted the US to come and get him, offering them his address and future program so they could send him the bounty money.

Amid all this drama, a top Obama administration official flew to Pakistan to hold talks with the civilian government to restore a semblance of normalcy in the overwrought ties between the two sides. Deputy Secretary of State Tom Nides is the highest ranking US official to engage Pakistan's disjointed and military-ruled government since the Salala checkpost shootout in which the US killed 24 Pakistani soldiers.

From the time the US announced the bounty on Saeed, Washington has heard an earful about how it was aimed at pressuring Islamabad to re-open the Nato supply route and how it was done to please India etc, but US officials clarified on Tuesday that the notification was linked only to the 26/11 massacre (in which six American citizens died), that the process had been underway for some time, and nothing was done under pressure from India.

"(This process has been) in the works for quite a number of months. These things are somewhat complicated to work through all of the details. So the announcements were only able to be posted when the process was complete...we've been working on this for some time," State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland said.

Nuland explained that the process involved an intelligence evaluation and a policy evaluation, followed by a discussion with Congress. Then there is an entire review process and an interagency rewards committee has to look through it before the Secretary of State has to sign off on the notification.

"This is a lot of money for the US. taxpayer to put up, and so that process takes some time. Things have to be correlated," Nuland said of the $ 10 million bounty. Significantly, she also revealed that the review process had to "determine in the first instance whether offering a bounty of this kind... is likely to lead to any results in the case," suggesting that US authorities had weighed their decision before going public with the bounty call.

Separately, the State Department revealed that since its inception, the Rewards for Justice program has paid more than $100 million to more than 70 people who provided information that prevented international terrorist attacks or helped bring to justice those involved in such acts.
 

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^^^^^ This is what I said earlier. The US bounty is not a dead or alive bounty like the one for OBL or Zawahiri.

Hafiz Saeed is stuck in the lahore/pindi area. The reality is that he is a marked man by even the TTP and Punjabi Taliban. They consider him a sellout to the ISI which according to the TTP affiliates is basically a puppet of the US.

I suggest people go throught this earlier thread on LeT/Hafiz Saeed to understand what the US perspective is on this matter.

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...oiba-new-al-qaeda-new-america-foundation.html
 

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After all the sensationalism, comes the reality behind. Good, ToI can also present a balanced picture once in a while.

Anyone followed what Najam Sethi's take has been on the issue, i suspect it to be similar to one presented by Chidanand Rajghatta, if anyone following, please share the video. Thanks.
 

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I have been saying from the time it was declared that the bounty is a waste and also a slap on India's face.

By making it a info to arrest bounty, the matter was killed there itself.

1) Because he is out in open and not hiding.
2) Who will arrest him? Pak Police, ISI who since the bounty declaration has upped his security?

US has done more harm to India with this than any help. The terrorists are blaming India for this bounty and will use it to attack India with terror attacks while India has not had the balls to do anything so far but got stuck in the crossfire of the US Pak game. If it was to KILL bounty it would have made some sense.
 

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I just came to say that we did what your damn govt (s) don't have the balls to do. America showed its pro India stance openly. So you kiss my brown asss you few yet devoid of any intellect anti-American mental midgets here!

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I have been saying from the time it was declared that the bounty is a waste and also a slap on India's face.

By making it a info to arrest bounty, the matter was killed there itself.

1) Because he is out in open and not hiding.
2) Who will arrest him? Pak Police, ISI who since the bounty declaration has upped his security?

US has done more harm to India with this than any help. The terrorists are blaming India for this bounty and will use it to attack India with terror attacks while India has not had the balls to do anything so far but got stuck in the crossfire of the US Pak game. If it was to KILL bounty it would have made some sense.
OMG - are you gone bonkers. To call them out officially now- as an international terrorist harboring country is doing more than India ever did - even when they risked pissing the Pakistanis more at a time the are talking about opening supply routes back up. This bounty makes him one of the highest most wanted in American justice system. You are tripping about the semantics( tree) , while ignoring the forest. Do you guys want everything for America to hand feed you? grow a pair and go get him, he is right next door and openly attends meetings if you are all about semantics. The guy just got put on the international radar publically.

you should be singing our praise... everyday with damn agarbati in hand! and why is " cant start new paragraph not fixed yet' - I need to be promoted to admin here.
 
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Sorry Jay, he was declared a terrorist long time ago and LeT declared a terror organization. The bounty proves and does nothing.
 

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Sorry Jay, he was declared a terrorist long time ago and LeT declared a terror organization. The bounty proves and does nothing.

really then why bother with bounties. the concept of bounties is put only of those of most importance. Bounties have a psychological effect were we are seeing now the embarrassed Pakistani govt reaction played out on the world stage - where they are running around asking US for proof. It has become an international news issue and the man is forever going to be known as a terrorist list , listed and wanted man- which he was not before. I don't what you are thinking - this man can be picked up by Indians as a part of the bounty. It was a capture and arrest bounty internationally by anyone .
 

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It has become an international issue because it was issue by the US. India issued an Interpol red corner notice for him ages back which puts the onus on arresting him on Pak and it is it's obligation to do so. But Pak is the protector of Saeed. Same goes with the bounty. Who is going to arrest him? Again Pak will ask for all kinds of evidence and even if evidence is presented, they will say its not enough to try in a court.

The US has made a fool of itself by announcing a bounty on a man who is out in the open and meeting people everyday.

And yes if Pak is running to the US, well then I would say objective achieved. Open the supply line and we are good!
 

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Change the clause from bounty for information to arrest to "dead or alive" and then see the fun.
 

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a federal bounty holds more girth than Interpol. Countries , many, ignore Interpol in many cases. A federal bounty by the US justice department means the target is on your back but also now there is large incentive for anyone to go get him. What india does to pak and what US does have different worldwide ramifications and dare say honestly more " weight". The US on strength of bounties can also sanction Pakistan if and when need be...
 

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a federal bounty holds more girth than Interpol. Countries , many, ignore Interpol in many cases. A federal bounty by the US justice department means the target is on your back but also now there is large incentive for anyone to go get him. What india does to pak and what US does have different worldwide ramifications and dare say honestly more " weight". The US on strength of bounties can also sanction Pakistan if and when need be...
Agreed. The US is the superpower. So what about this bounty and how does it help India. Hafiz is in Lahore today, is the US going to send an FBI team to arrest him without having to spend 10 million? Why all this drama of bounty when he has been in the open and available to "kill"?
 

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Hafiz is attempting to look unfazed, but I am sure he is running scared.
 

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The state department is telling that the bounty is not for his capture but for information leading to successful prosecution of Hafeez Saeed
 

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Won't come under pressure on Hafiz Saeed issue: FO



During weekly media briefing on Thursday, Foreign Office Spokesman Abdul Basit said that Pakistan would not come under pressure over US announcement of bounty against Jamaat-ud-Dawa chief Hafiz Muhammad Saeed.

Responding to a question, the spokesman said that Pakistan would prefer to receive concrete evidence to proceed legally rather than to be engaging in a public discussion on this issue.

He underlined that in a democratic country like Pakistan, where judiciary is independent, evidence against anyone must withstand judicial scrutiny.

The US this week announced $10 million bounty, highest after Taliban supreme commander Mullah Muhammad Omar, on Hafiz Saeed.

Pakistan's right wing parties say the US announced the bounty at the behest of India who blamed Saeed of launching attacks on Mumbai in 2008 in which 166 people were killed.


Dunya News: Pakistan:-Won't come under pressure on Hafiz Saeed issue: ...
 

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