LETHALFORCE
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exactly Vladimir give aid money with a wink, that gets diverted to buy arms and ask for no transparency in any aid; easy way to look innocent.
Great points. But couldnt it be possible that Gen. was just being boastful and did not have any particular tactic in mind?Interesting development isn’t it? Question that comes to the mind is, why on earth Musharraf is doing this? Why he was not able to shut his mouth on this? I guess there are two reasons:
1. Musharraf is trying to play with the emotions of the brain-washed Pakistanis by telling them that look I was never sincere with Americans, rather I made them fool and used their money and equipment to strengthen our defenses against the arch enemy India.
2. He is trying to undermine the efforts of the present democratic government which she is making to make to improve the over all situation.
I see this nothing but Musharraf’s vicious attempt to bring back the military regime into power once again. I think that Americans should launch a full investigation and try to make sure that the American’s taxpayer’s (I am one of those) money is being spent ONLY for the purpose it was intended for.
That is true. The problem with the Americans is, they are not holding high moral grounds. They had similar problems in Iraq and they have even worst problems in Afghanistan. The neighbors of Afghanistan do not want to see the long term presence of Americans in Afghanistan. Russia, China, Iran and Pakistan, all are the stake holders here and it is not in the interest of any of those that Americans stay in Afghanistan. Americans are kind of trapped in Afghanistan, and the only country or the regime they can deal with easily (through bribe or intimidation) is Pakistan. At this point, they don’t want to loose Pakistani support or what ever you want to call it.This team being sent by USA is for show, Obama/Biden have tripled aid without any conditions, without any transparency and without tying it to any outcomes or results.
You may be right you know. But as I have found Musharraf, he is dying for coming back to the power and he will leave no stone unturned to achieve his dirty objectives. He hates the democracy to the core of his heart, and he will go to any length to make sure that democracy never take-up its roots in Pakistan.Great points. But couldnt it be possible that Gen. was just being boastful and did not have any particular tactic in mind?
Why are these countries stake holders? Why should it matter what these countries think anyway? What about the Afghanis themselves?That is true. The problem with the Americans is, they are not holding high moral grounds. They had similar problems in Iraq and they have even worst problems in Afghanistan. The neighbors of Afghanistan do not want to see the long term presence of Americans in Afghanistan. Russia, China, Iran and Pakistan, all are the stake holders here and it is not in the interest of any of those that Americans stay in Afghanistan. Americans are kind of trapped in Afghanistan, and the only country or the regime they can deal with easily (through bribe or intimidation) is Pakistan. At this point, they don’t want to loose Pakistani support or what ever you want to call it.
JohneeGreat points. But couldnt it be possible that Gen. was just being boastful and did not have any particular tactic in mind?
Lastly, when you say that you want US to launch a full investigation, you are assuming that US wants Pakistan to actually use that money for the purpose it was supposed to be given. I think US is just using Pakistan by buying the elites to get to its goals. When Mushy claims that money went to strengthen the defenses(or offenses) against India, I think half of that money ended up in the pockets of the ruling elite(military included).
Well, if the surveys were right, why the Americans are not getting success in Afghanistan? Why the Americans have to cut deals with the Taliban forces and to bribe them so that NATO trucks could pass through Taliban-controlled areas? Why the American and British Generals are insisting that dialogues are needed between the NATO/ISAF/Kabul and Taliban?Why are these countries stake holders? Why should it matter what these countries think anyway? What about the Afghanis themselves?
The survey conducted by the World Public Opinion in 2006 showed an overwhelming support for US and International presence, along with a rejection of the Taliban (the "good" Taliban so eloquently supported by Hamid Gul and the likes) and Al Queda.
WPO Poll: Afghan Public Overwhelmingly Rejects al-Qaeda, Taliban - World Public Opinion
Left to themselves, the Taliban (the "good" kind) will certainly overrun the country. They certainly tried their darnedest to kep ordinary Afghans away from the polls.
You are diverting from the issue. Your contention was that none of the neighbouring countries want the US there.Well, if the surveys were right, why the Americans are not getting success in Afghanistan? Why the Americans have to cut deals with the Taliban forces and to bribe them so that NATO trucks could pass through Taliban-controlled areas? Why the American and British Generals are insisting that dialogues are needed between the NATO/ISAF/Kabul and Taliban?