Trump Makes Huge Anti-Pakistan Move

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In principle, this is risky for us.

US, China and Russia are literally the only 3 poles in the multipolar world order. If ALL 3 of them are seen courting Pakistan, can we really claim that we have isolated Pakistan?

(No one gives a shit about UK. They can't even build a ship without having water leaking in.)

How is it that this messed up jihadi nation continues to pursue its national interest despite having an unstable civil government, lack of resources, weak civil institutions and all around hunger and we cannot even articulate our viewpoint forcefully despite calling ourselves a thriving democracy?
For getting answers to your question look in hindsight 70 yrs back. It was the precise reason the former superpower created Pakistan out of India. Cold war between UK, USA vs UsSR had already started by mid of WWII. And UK did not want India directly accessible to Central Asia. So they planted the Pak state in between and cut off access of India to Afghanistan. The kingdom where British were defeated. That is the reason Pak finds itself buyers who are willing to rent her services for their own strategic interest.
 

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What's so shocking about this? Pakistan is a failed nation that everyone wants to use and discard. Its geographical position is very good for countering Iran and Afghanistan, so USA wants it. China wants pak to be a thorn in India's flesh. So different countries have diff. motives, but they all want to use pak, which means they don't respect pak at all. They see pak as a weak country that can be used and discarded, nothing more.
People here don't seem to understand.

Different nations have different goals and even when they have the same type of goals,they might pursue them to different degrees.

Pakistan and India are fundamentally different countries,we both have different and increasingly diverging definitions of good and bad and success and failure.

In Pakistan the main and dominant power center's in the future are the military and jihadist.the military and jihadist also have a an alliance of convenience and have begun to depend on each other so much that they are almost one.there is not even a faint opposition narrative in sight.the only other power center's are the democrats and liberandus who are cowards and don't reproduce much.

India on the other hand dreams of being a first world country with good tech base and economy.we have more in common with China even though China is ahead of us.
If indians were swapped with pakis today they would go mad as they would find their country far away from their goals.

Pakistan's above mentioned main power center's coalition only dreams about gazwa hind at some times for the jihadis,importance and material riches for he military.most low level pakis support 1 or 2 of these groups.they are satisfied as long as Pakistan can be Islamic and follow Islamic idiocy and don't mind low living standards.hell they would even be against it as it could lead to blasphemy.

This is the reason that Pakistan is hard to disappoint as they don't care about our standard of good or bad and have their own standard and in heirs they are doing somewhat fine.
 

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US is only fool to hace paid so much, look at Russians and Chinese, they all want hard cash from Pakistan.

Chinese will almost own their asses in coming years. Pakis have lost themselves to Chinese. PLA is coming to take over. Pak Awam is so Jahi that they will welcome them with open arms.

Now what about Trump, he has his limitations as all supplies reach to Afghan through Pak, with Iran about to start burning (complements of uncle), he has cornered itself, thus not many options. Still most of political class and most of the army and their kids or bank balance control by Uncle. Lets wait and watch. Trump is businessman he will find ways and means to screw Pak many times over. Wait and watch. One false move and Pak will go down in war with uncle, mostly at receiving end.

Balochistan Independence will be great hope for them.
 

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I hope once US is done with Iran, Pakistan may be next in queue to break. If regime change in Iran and a democratic government is installed, US will not need Pakistan any more. Then breaking Pakistan into four pieces with be in interest of the U.S. to shut down this factory of global terrorism.
 

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Americans got their men killed and lost billions due to treachery of Pakistanis. They knew it but kept supporting their own tormentors.

Many good poster at WAB who used to be pro Pakistan saw this through and now bay for Pakistani blood. I hope they will be now little happy that the White House is up on the task.
 

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The greatest quality of USA is that sooner or later , this nation can diagnose and fix problems.Pakis were able to deceive this great nation, USA for decades but finally, they are exposed and Prezident Trump is someone they can not b*shit. Obama and Hillary were naive . Trump is hardboiled egg and has eyes of an eagle to see thru Pakistani lies and deceits.
Many Americans knew very well that Pakistanis were playing a DOUBLE game and were thinking Americans can be fooled easily. Pakis think that they are smart @*ss and Americans are not that good in seeing their crookedness.
Time has come to support and cooperate for India to support and cooperate with the USA more to end the evil of Islamic terrorism. All civilized nations should unite and end the barbarians once for all and let the World be peaceful again.
 

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The greatest quality of USA is that sooner or later , this nation can diagnose and fix problems.Pakis were able to deceive this great nation, USA for decades but finally, they are exposed and Prezident Trump is someone they can not b*shit. Obama and Hillary were naive . Trump is hardboiled egg and has eyes of an eagle to see thru Pakistani lies and deceits.
Many Americans knew very well that Pakistanis were playing a DOUBLE game and were thinking Americans can be fooled easily. Pakis think that they are smart @*ss and Americans are not that good in seeing their crookedness.
Time has come to support and cooperate for India to support and cooperate with the USA more to end the evil of Islamic terrorism. All civilized nations should unite and end the barbarians once for all and let the World be peaceful again.
USA supports Islamic terrorism, so working with them and ending it seems like a pipe dream. Also, usa is a super power. Do you really believe that a superpower could be deceived by a weak nation like pak? Of course not. USA has been using pak like toilet paper but pretend to upset just to appease India now and then. Same drama, same result. Nothing new to see here. US needs pak because their desire to control Afghanistan and Iran far exceeds their (nonexistent) desire to root out terrorism.
 

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Then breaking Pakistan into four pieces with be in interest of the U.S. to shut down this factory of global terrorism.
Haha, funny you say it. What does US have to gain by shutting down the factory of global terrorism? They are the ones funding it in the first place - from TSP to ISIS, they are the ones pulling the strings. Its foolish to think otherwise.
 

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I hope once US is done with Iran, Pakistan may be next in queue to break. If regime change in Iran and a democratic government is installed, US will not need Pakistan any more. Then breaking Pakistan into four pieces with be in interest of the U.S. to shut down this factory of global terrorism.
Minor corrections there. US is not interested in democratic Govts, its interested in propping up pro US Govts in various ME countries. Pakistan used to be completely pro US for decades. They gave lands in fata for housing anti Soviet forces who fought in Afghanistan. Its only now US realised that Pakis have been milking them like a dudharu gai. US wont be interested in breaking up Pak untill and unless it goes totally into Chinese lap.
 

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Minor corrections there. US is not interested in democratic Govts, its interested in propping up pro US Govts in various ME countries. Pakistan used to be completely pro US for decades. They gave lands in fata for housing anti Soviet forces who fought in Afghanistan. Its only now US realised that Pakis have been milking them like a dudharu gai. US wont be interested in breaking up Pak untill and unless it goes totally into Chinese lap.
I don't think US agencies were under any false impression about Pakis. They were using Pakis and Pakis were using them. It's just common US public that thinks that Pakis used muricans and Trump is playing upon this image of powerful but naive US and clever, shifty Pakistan.
 

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If The US really Do (what Pak Dont want to do And India Want to do..)

then Pakistan will do that what US dont want to ..

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Paki.. goes close near and near with chinese...(last choice only available for pak)

-and after Trump twit.. pak step is Allow Chines Currency in Pak Regime (first time ever) what US dot want to ...
 
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Paki.. goes close near and near with chinese...(last choice only available for pak)

-and after Trump twit.. pak step is Allow Chines Currency in Pak Regime (first time ever) what US dot want to ...
This is a great point. US went to war with Iraq for non dollar oil trade. This is actually a brilliant move by china and pak where USA has no recourse. China is doing a great job of challenging the dollar supremacy . Saudis Iran and Russians also agree to do trade in yuan. More nations will probably be also influenced by Pakistan to do yuan trade since it is the Islamic leader(in their own mind) .
 

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All indications point to Pakistan becoming Pak Autonomous Region (PAR) of the PRC. Let it happen. In any case the days of Pak state are numbered. That will give another reason for the disenchanted populations of Baloch, Sindhi, Mohajjrs, Ahmadiya and Pashtuns to increase resistance and armed insurgency.
 

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