Trump Makes Huge Anti-Pakistan Move

[spikey360]

As long as Trump keeps things boiling in his own country and with his allies, we are happy.
At best, Trump is a distraction.

 

[Indian Sniper.001]

Let's not jump the gun. All I see is just a big blinder. Even if what Trump says is true, do you think the CIA would stop funding them? Pakistan is in a good strategic position and they would never like to leave that region. And most of all, if US stops funding, cheenis will see a bright yellow opportunity to fund them and control the region. They will just pump in more money. I don't see the big victory here.

 

[roma]

This is huge, and redraws the South Asia strategic equation. Whether or not there's a US-India military alliance on the cards, the US is officially out of Pakistan..

we had a chance when usa warned nehru about ccpchina plans in aksai but nehru rebuffed them

this is another chance coming decades later
...this time swaraj and modi , doval must take this opportunity with a lot of hard planning and get us somewhere .....like it or not the usa has top class power , the best in the world ....to align with that is a huge advantage , to miss out on it again is to repeat our J Neh's mistake and look where that got us

A tweet is the big anti Pak move??? Reason the US is pissed with pak is that China is using Pak now.
Reason US suddenly discovered love for India is to use against China.
Geopolitics only, nothing to do with terrorism and such.

i'll take your points in reverse order
1st-ly no harm being a counterbalance to china as long as we remember our own goals ..... in this world after all everybody is used by somebody else , it is going on all the time

2ndly i think ccpchina is already fed-up with pack and that's the reason for alternative routes through afghanistan for their obor ....they are already looking ahead realiseing that pak is gonna be a disaster

But how will they get access to Afghanistan now?

well think carefully ...if we can get usa to agree with us that we dont need to take back all of pok just now ........ but just enough of a slice to get to the afghan border , then we can help usa-nato ???

actually i see sindh as more important than balochistan because from sindh india can affect baloch territory easily ... so sindh has to be broken off ....as for nwfp and all that the afghans have enough incentive to handle that given some "help"

LetPakistan is in a good strategic position and they would never like to leave that region. And most of all, if US stops funding, cheenis will see a bright yellow opportunity to fund them and control the region. They will just pump in more money. I don't see the big victory here.

hahaha not really imho .....prcchina already fedup with pack .....now just waith for hafeez seyed to get some important post officially in packland .....he will play prcchina like the same fiddle they played usa ....now it iwll be chinas turn to be taken for a ride .....but pr has seen ahead and planned alternative obor route through a'stan and i think later through iran so they wont depend too much on pack

hafeez seyed is the saviour ...he will send mujaheed into xinjiang and and later china proper

Good point looks like the China USA Pak love triangle is ending? Pak has chosen the short ugly communist yellow lover or the American and like a spurned lover USA will now seek revenge?

actually the yellow lover who formerly was poor was initially no competition and now has become more rich than the blonde lover ....so that's also a major part of the breakup

Next step is to stop IMF and other agencies from lending to Pak.Precondition for IMF loan must be handing over their nukes.Everything is going according to plan

absolutely

Trump's statement seems too aggressive to be any temporary pressure tactic. We will see in a few months.

actually we MUST see action with in a few months otherwise trump loses credibility and it's just talk and no action NATO no action talk only

Let's not jump the gun. All I see is just a big blinder. Even if what Trump says is true, do you think the CIA would stop funding them? Pakistan is in a good strategic position and they would never like to leave that region. And most of all, if US stops funding, cheenis will see a bright yellow opportunity to fund them and control the region. They will just pump in more money. I don't see the big victory here.

all pack has is location ......and its not really like tit was prime real estate

today with technology , packs relevence especialy given that they are such a nuisance, is gonna be severely limited
if we got back pok or even a thin slice of it to reach the afghan border ??????



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The move is accompanied with this step.
US to withhold $255m from another fund after CSF cuts
ded.

Would this not draw Iran-Pakistan closer and impact our interests in Afghanistan?
On the other hand, if Trump stays true to his word (and does not get impeached) and the Iranian regime falls, then this will be the biggest strategic victory for us since Bangladesh.

One thing US hates most is nuke-threat. Paki media did a big blunder talking about nukes to use as a threat to US.

Pakistan is like a necessary lump of boil to USA. This is just another tactic to presssure pakis. We will hear in some days of some Talibani VIP being killed or USA getting some major tips /info.we have to fight our own war. Nobody is gonna fight your war for you.

Interesting things might happen soon if USA has its way.
It's upto India to take max benefit while trying to reduce negatives.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Let's not jump the gun. All I see is just a big blinder. Even if what Trump says is true, do you think the CIA would stop funding them? Pakistan is in a good strategic position and they would never like to leave that region. And most of all, if US stops funding, cheenis will see a bright yellow opportunity to fund them and control the region. They will just pump in more money. I don't see the big victory here.

Good point looks like the China USA Pak love triangle is ending? Pak has chosen the short ugly communist yellow lover over the American and like a spurned lover USA will now seek revenge?

 

[aditya10r]

I don't think USA would ever want India to be too powerful to handle,if Pakistan balkanizes,then the balance of power would move in our area.Things won't be much good for USA then,they will keep using Pakistan as a leverage.

We have to endure it on our own, USA would never ever help us in dealing with anti India terrorists in Pakistan.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

I don't think USA would ever want India to be too powerful to handle,if Pakistan balkanizes,then the balance of power would move in our area.Things won't be much good for USA then,they will keep using Pakistan as a leverage.

We have to endure it on our own, USA would never ever help us in dealing with anti India terrorists in Pakistan.

IMO US miscalculated China and China has become unmanageable for USA?
Maybe this is the reason US may (temporarily) sacrifice Pak. India can play this
Perfectly or it can be a total disaster which I doubt since the right govt is on India.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...-Russia-Donald-Trump-Kim-Jong-un-Bejing-video

North Korea warning: US must prepare for World War 3 with Kim's allies in China AND Russia

 

[aditya10r]

IMO US miscalculated China and China has become unmanageable for USA?
Maybe this is the reason US may (temporarily) sacrifice Pak. India can play this
Perfectly or it can be a total disaster which I doubt since the right govt is on India.

And why do you think USA will sacrifice Pak,maybe USA will get a regime changed in Pakistan,maybe it will ask Pakistan to slow down its nuke program,but USA would never allow pakistan to go kaput.

They will only help us on Chinese front,and some lip work on pakistan side,unless we do not deploy a few thousand soldiers in Afghanistan, USA would never consider India an ally in the region.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

And why do you think USA will sacrifice Pak,maybe USA will get a regime changed in Pakistan,maybe it will ask Pakistan to slow down its nuke program,but USA would never allow pakistan to go kaput.

They will only help us on Chinese front,and some lip work on pakistan side,unless we do not deploy a few thousand soldiers in Afghanistan, USA would never consider India an ally in the region.

US knows they can do whatever they want in Pak . Whenever they need to they can come back even if they have to fuck up the whole country it does not matter to US one bit. Why does India want to formalize an alliance with US? What would be India's benefit? Would India go to war with US enemies? Would US go to war for India?If you k ow the answer then everything is just informal rhetoric. India should maximize this Pakistan weakness to destabilize and break pak.

 

[Suryavanshi]

Apna hath Jagarnath

Don't expect others to do ur job

 

[aditya10r]

US knows they can do whatever they want in Pak . Whenever they need to they can come back even if they have to fuck up the whole country it does not matter to US one bit.

To be very honest, USA cannot handle Pakistan.

Once it goes harsh on pakistan,most probably pakistan would balkanise and it would be ungovernable.

USA or china or any other Cannot sort out pakistan and the news it is in,only we can.

Once USA goes full bonkers on pakistan,then it would break in shit load of parts and there will be a lot of infighting.The best USA can do is a regime change,I can't say how much of a favour would that be.

Pakistan should be left on us, totally us.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

To be very honest, USA cannot handle Pakistan.

Once it goes harsh on pakistan,most probably pakistan would balkanise and it would be ungovernable.

USA or china or any other Cannot sort out pakistan and the news it is in,only we can.

Once USA goes full bonkers on pakistan,then it would break in shit load of parts and there will be a lot of infighting.The best USA can do is a regime change,I can't say how much of a favour would that be.

Pakistan should be left on us, totally us.

Don't worry about what US wants in regard to pak. Indian and US interest differ.
Let it fall apart and disintegrate. US cannot be successful with regime
change because no Pakistani leader will every be loyal to US

 

[LETHALFORCE]

There is a lot brewing

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...k-citys-times-square/articleshow/62276713.cms

After London, 'Free Balochistan' posters appear in New York City's Times Square

 

[dhananjay1]

Won't be surprising if Pakis threaten US with their nukes

Pakis have replaced full stop with inshallah.

 

[sayareakd]

Trump is cooking something, these are all hints, he is businessman and one who will screwed others, if they tried to play smart. Wait and watch.

 

[Compersion]

Q. Iran will ask why Pakis have nukes and Iran was paid for no nukes. Pakis got paid and have nukes and fun under the sun and even no sanctions even when caught. Lol

Q. Israel within distance of pakis nukes. And pakis even make threats and show the same to Israel indirectly and directly. Once done always noted. Act swiftly make it finished (hence notes on Baluchistan and Afghanistan is worthy).

Q. India connection directly to Central Asia +

Q. Prc entrance to Pakistan. Also one will notice Prc and North Korea and Pakistan.

Q. Pakis demand to USA and prc for recognition and payments will be perpetual since it is unmeasurable in today’s terms.

More Qs ...

A. Pakis come to the Bangkok for some fun and meet a Indian and say you were right we are getting screwed now we want to be cuddled and together.

pakis ... Krishna and his conversations with Arjuna and the Bhagwad Gita are more ever to be remembered.

Pakis are no longer only India’s problem. They will be split.

Probably trump heard what’s the Pakis discussed in Bangkok. Pakis it’s lonely and they want to be together with someone

 

[SanjeevM]

Trump is cooking something, these are all hints, he is businessman and one who will screwed others, if they tried to play smart. Wait and watch.

Here are the reasons I could think of:-
1. Trump May want to cut the outflow of aid $$ to Pakistan. Save some valuable $$ going to drain. Hence reviewing the whole aid thing to Pakistan.

2. Recently Pakistan defence minister had threatened U.S. that they will not allow passage to US troops if US doesn't pay. It must have hurt the pride of U.S. and can't see Pakistan holding war against terrorism at ransom for $$.

3. US may have now woken to the fact that all billions $ aid they provide to Pakistan, major portion of it is used to obtain weapons that are pushed to Indian borders and used against India. In case U.S. wants India to be an ally, they need to weaken Pakistan by denying future aid.

4. Like the demonstrations in Iran, similar demonstrations can be orchestrated in Pakistan. Providing Guns to freedom fighters may give better results than giving $$ to Pakistan government.

5. The roots of Sept 11 lies in Pakistan. Their radical mullahs are responsible. Osama was also found in Pakistan. Currently Pakistan is a base for terrorists causing distress in Afghanistan and India. Better to let Pakistan get weaken.

6. hitting Pakistan from Afghanistan border and hitting from India side as well can weaken Pakistan and help break it. From US point of view, Pakistan is in same league of nations as North Korea and Iran that U.S. wants to destabilize. So giving aid may be inconsistent.

7. Recently as I read in newspapers, a meeting took place between Pakistan, Afghanistan and China to ease out tensions and have better relations. US was kept out of the meeting. Trump May have got hurt at this ignorance from Pakistan.

Question to be asked to Trump - is he going to stop all kind of aid including the food aid and aid Pakistan is getting from different NGOs? How will he send his troops to Afghanistan? If Pakistan resists US aircrafts over Pakistani airspace, will US respond with arms?

 

[hit&run]

Now Pakistan will activate its friendship doves with India and stupid Lindus will start doing Mujra on their sweet sufi love.

 

[Screambowl]

Now Pakistan will activate its friendship doves with India and stupid Lindus will start doing Mujra on their sweet sufi love.

since when you started talking like us
what a change bruv

 

[SanjeevM]

Now Pakistan will activate its friendship doves with India and stupid Lindus will start doing Mujra on their sweet sufi love.

Pakistan is like a p**stitute that sleeps with anyone who gives money. One cannot expect faithfulness from her. Seems like after Pakistan stopped sleeping with the US, as US got angry, next will be the turn of Chinese. As long they are throwing money, Pakistan is dancing. Once they will ask for returning the debt, you will see the true face of Pakistan. That time Pakistanis will develop brotherly love with Muslims in China and will start insurgency and freedom fighters movement.

 

[mattster]

Gotta like Trump about some things.
Even CNN which is not "Trump friendly" and which Trump calls "fake news" is praising Trump for making this tweet. They say he may have it right.

Its about time the US remembers the old saying - The definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over & over again and expecting a different result.

Pakistanis have played "nuclear blackmail" game and the "non-state actors" game long enough.....the game has finally run out..... and everybody including the Afghans, US, India, Iran, even other Muslim countries like Bangladesh know what Pak is.

They only have the Saudis & China in their corner now......lets see how far the Chinaman wants to go.