The Syrian Crisis

[sukhish]

The guy looks decent and sounds reasonable. Why does west has a problem with him. I guess they want total dominance . Some how al-queda is bad in af-pak , they become good for Syria. Just like Pakistan has good and bad Taliban, US has good and bad al-queda

 

[pmaitra]

Russian Ships Park Off Syrian Coast As NATO Deploys Patriot Missiles In Turkey

Several hours ago, Syrian president delivered his first public speech in months, addressing the internal military conflict that has gripped his country, and whose key excerpts can be found here. In it he called for a "full national mobilisation" to fight against rebels he described as al Qaeda terrorists. "We meet today and suffering is overwhelming Syrian land. There is no place for joy while security and stability are absent on the streets of our country," Assad said in a speech at the opera house in central Damascus. "The nation is for all and we all must protect it." Assad once again blamed the west for provoking and "facilitating" the rebellion, which even the NYT admits is being orchestrated by Al Qaeda, which naturally begs the question: just what is Al Qaeda to the US and to its intelligence agencies - foe or ally? But while providing fodder for the pundits, the speech was largely irrelevant. What does merit attention is the follow up to the story from two weeks ago the Russia sent two squadrons of ship to Syria in mid-December. It appears they have arrived, and just in time to offset the positioning of NATO Patriot missiles along the Turkish-Syria border.
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While officially Russia has claimed the ships have been deployed to partake in an exercise to "improve the management, maintenance and testing of the interaction of naval forces," the Times quoted the diplomat as saying the marines were meant to deter the West from deploying ground forces in the uprising against Syrian President Bashar Assad.
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In other words, having been unable to convince the world that Iran is a terminal threat to "democracy" everywhere and the window of destroying its nuclear processing facilities now officially closed, and with both the Lebanon and the Gaza conflicts hibernating, the only loophole left to escalate the region is now Syria, where the event timeline now appears to culminate in 2-3 months.

Read the full article: Russian Ships Park Off Syrian Coast As NATO Deploys Patriot Missiles In Turkey | Zero Hedge

 

[pmaitra]

16 Russian ships off Syrian coast now:


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[pmaitra]

Landing Ship Alexander Shabalin

Landing Ship Novocherkassk

Landing Ship Kaliningrad

Landing Ship Azov

Landing Ship Nikolai Filchenkov

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[pmaitra]

Frigate/Destroyer Yaroslav Mudry

Frigate/Destroyer Smetlivy

Frigate/Destroyer Severomorsk

Cruiser Moskva

And 7 more ships, and subject to change or rotation.

Concluded.

 

[Armand2REP]

There are only 5 ships headed to Syria, two of which are landing ships Azov and Nikolai Filchenkov. The escorts are the cruiser Moskva and the frigate Smetlivy along with an ocean tug. That rusted junk is no match for what we've got there.

 

[Akim]

There are only 5 ships headed to Syria, two of which are landing ships Azov and Nikolai Filchenkov. The escorts are the cruiser Moskva and the frigate Smetlivy along with an ocean tug. That rusted junk is no match for what we've got there.

Do you think that perhaps the real collision with Russia for the sake of the Syrian opposition. Don't make me laugh!

 

[JBH22]

Do you think that perhaps the real collision with Russia for the sake of the Syrian opposition. Don't make me laugh!

if you let him speak he might even share his plans how France will defeat Russia,think that he believes Napoleon is still ruling the country

 

[Armand2REP]

Do you think that perhaps the real collision with Russia for the sake of the Syrian opposition. Don't make me laugh!

Russia is only there to evacuate its personnel when the time comes. If they wanted to make a show of force they would have brought the Kuznetsov battle group. Not a rusted Blask Sea flotilla like this.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Britain and US fear Syrian chemical weapons could fall into the hands of extreme Islamist groups - Home News - UK - The Independent

General Sir David Richards, the head of the British military, has raised his worries in Whitehall in recent weeks and there has been a series of meetings over the issue between European and American officials and governments in the region.

The possibility that President Bashar al-Assad may unleash such weapons was one of the key reasons given for the deployment this week of Nato Patriot missiles to the Turkish border.

At the end of last year Barack Obama warned that the use of chemical weapons would mean the Assad regime had crossed a 'red line' and must bear the consequences. The regime appeared to have stopped on its tracks in preparing such attacks and defence secretary Leon Panetta stated subsequently that the threat has been reduced.

Although the US and UK governments still hold that a beleaguered regime on its last legs may use weapons of mass destruction (WMD) there is also the clear danger of jihadist fighter getting possession of stockpiles. The Obama administration has prescribed the Al-Nusra Brigade, one of the strongest of the rebel groups and one which declares itself affiliated to al-Qa'ida, as a terrorist organisation.

Article also mentions possibility of SAS going in.

 

[Armand2REP]

What kind of idiots are flying Assad's choppers?

 

[pmaitra]

if you let him speak he might even share his plans how France will defeat Russia,think that he believes Napoleon is still ruling the country

Well, even Napoleon tried to fight Russia, and came back licking his wounds.

 

[spikey360]

Well, even Napoleon tried to fight Russia, and came back licking his wounds.

Licking his wounds would be a gross understatement. Napoleon was completely vanquished.

 

[Armand2REP]

Well, even Napoleon tried to fight Russia, and came back licking his wounds.

Russian winter is a long way from the Mediterranean. Screw with France and Moscow burns... again.

 

[asianobserve]

Russian winter is a long way from the Mediterranean. Screw with France and Moscow burns... again.

What he mean by that is that if Russia attack France then NATO (which is almost = to "US") will come in against Russia. And Moscow will burn (this part may be a little bit harsh Armand)?

 

[Armand2REP]

What he mean by that is that if Russia attack France then NATO (which is almost = to "US") will come in against Russia. And Moscow will burn (this part may be a little bit harsh Armand)?

We don't need NATO to take on Russia. They couldn't defeat Napoleaon in the field and they certainly can't now with their 30yo rust army.

 

[JBH22]

We don't need NATO to take on Russia. They couldn't defeat Napoleaon in the field and they certainly can't now with their 30yo rust army.

You have what around 400 Leclerc Tank and some 1600 VAB around 100k troops to fight Russia

That too in a conventional war good luck

 

[asianobserve]

You have what around 400 Leclerc Tank and some 1600 VAB around 100k troops to fight Russia

That too in a conventional war good luck

I thought that battleground is the Mediterranean near Syria? In the sea I think Russia cannot push France too easily...

(Anyway, this is OT so end of conversation for me)

 

[JBH22]

I thought that battleground is the Mediterranean near Syria? In the sea I think Russia cannot push France too easily...

(Anyway, this is OT so end of conversation for me)

OT but most importantly neither parties would fight for Syria

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Russian winter is a long way from the Mediterranean. Screw with France and Moscow burns... again.

Whatever you are trying to say oversimplifies the history, assuming you refer to 1812.

Fire of Moscow (1812) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Before leaving Moscow, Count Rostopchin gave orders to have the Kremlin and major public buildings (including churches and monasteries) either blown up or set on fire. But this was not the foremost cause of the conflagration that destroyed the city. As the bulk of the French army moved into the city, there were some fires. Their cause has never been determined and both neglect as well as Rostopchin's orders may be among possible reasons. Today, the majority of historians blames the initial fires on Russian sabotage