Sukhoi Su 30MKI

[Aaj ka hero]

Then why IAF bought them. I don't think we induct anything without testing.
HTV said SAP-518 is effective he didn't said that elta one's are non effective.

And also he never said what happens to sukhoi maneuverability after integrating this monster.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

If they weren't then, IAF would have posted su30 pics with elta jamming pod rather than Russian ones. Nonetheless my comment was not directed at you .

I know it wasn't directed towards me but i was curious..

 

[abhay rajput]

I know it wasn't directed towards me but i was curious..

Perhaps you should ask him or maybe Falcon ( he is a 3 star ) about elta jamming pod and sap518 . I deleted my twitter account. Also do you know how many elta pods we have..?

 

[mist_consecutive]

Is that source enough for you @vampyrbladez and @mist_consecutive . Again I am saying elta ones mess with the radar so bad that su30 can't use both at the same time. Also something's happen on 27 Feb with avenger 2 radar due to this . .

? Where does it says anything about ELTA ?
SAP-518 is effective, no debate regarding that, Russian Airforce itself uses them in Syria where threats from NATO aircraft are always looming.

 

[vampyrbladez]

Is that source enough for you @vampyrbladez and @mist_consecutive . Again I am saying elta ones mess with the radar so bad that su30 can't use both at the same time. Also something's happen on 27 Feb with avenger 2 radar due to this . .

The quote mentions only SAP 518 and it's effectiveness. Nothing else. Try harder.

 

[abhay rajput]

The quote mentions only SAP 518 and it's effectiveness. Nothing else. Try harder.

Don't worry overtime people will understand that too. Just like some people still regards r77 better missile than r27 .

 

[WARREN SS]

Just like some people still regards r77 better

Russian OEM's regard Its better Missile That Is Why they Chosen It developed Further into AESA variant K-77M
not R-27 for Su-57

 

[mist_consecutive]

Don't worry overtime people will understand that too. Just like some people still regards r77 better missile than r27 .

Curious, is R27 better than R77?

Or you are basing this notion upon IAF's recent bulk buying choice of R27?

 

[vampyrbladez]

Curious, is R27 better than R77?

Or you are basing this notion upon IAF's recent bulk buying choice of R27?

R 27 - Semi Active Guidance 100 km

R 77 - Semi Active Guidance 80 km

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

R 27 - Semi Active Guidance 100 km

R 77 - Semi Active Guidance 80 km

R27EA active seeker is 100-120km max range.

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

R27EA active seeker is 100-120km max range.

R-27 ER- Semi-active radar homing- max range: 117km
R-27 ET- IR homing- max range: 104km
R-27 EA- Active seeker- max range: >130km
R-27 EM- Active seeker- max range: >170km

 

[SajeevJino]

Then why IAF bought them. I don't think we induct anything without testing.
HTV said SAP-518 is effective he didn't said that elta one's are non effective.

Lol, We don't have SAP 518 or any russian based EW pods, we have no pictures , no contracts


the guy in twitter hvtiaf is spreading fake mango all over the internet,

 

[SajeevJino]

R-27 ER- Semi-active radar homing- max range: 117km
R-27 ET- IR homing- max range: 104km
R-27 EA- Active seeker- max range: >130km
R-27 EM- Active seeker- max range: >170km

All are wiki ranges, quoted from Russian propaganda leaflets,

 

[SajeevJino]

And also he never said what happens to sukhoi maneuverability after integrating this monster.

dude stop getting over excited, Su 30 MKI never integrated with SAP EW pods, DRDO once worked with SHIVA POD and IAF knows it's another bullshit mulled by DRDO, so IAF went with Israeli EW systems and targetting systems

Its all IAF's effort to use the Su 30 in precision attack roles, and truth is all their effort gone into garbage,

 

[Neptune]

Lol, We don't have SAP 518 or any russian based EW pods, we have no pictures , no contracts


the guy in twitter hvtiaf is spreading fake mango all over the internet,

Stop spreading miss information and lies. There are multiple photos of MKIs with the SAP-518 including recent ones from the official IAF Twitter account. We also have Indian Air Force test pilots conforming the use of the SAP518.

 

[mist_consecutive]

R 27 - Semi Active Guidance 100 km

R 77 - Semi Active Guidance 80 km

R77 - Active Guidance, advertised range (80-100 km). Range varies greatly according to launch circumstances.

R27EA active seeker is 100-120km max range.

R-27 ER- Semi-active radar homing- max range: 117km
R-27 ET- IR homing- max range: 104km
R-27 EA- Active seeker- max range: >130km
R-27 EM- Active seeker- max range: >170km

Interesting thing is, though R-27EA seems to be a more promising missile than R77, it has never seen the light of the day. Most of the performance of Russian missiles are shrouded in mystery as they have never been used extensively to have a conclusive report. But after Feb 27, I will rather vouch for our home-grown Astra than Vladimir arrow.

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

R77 - Active Guidance, advertised range (80-100 km). Range varies greatly according to launch circumstances.




Interesting thing is, though R-27EA seems to be a more promising missile than R77, it has never seen the light of the day. Most of the performance of Russian missiles are shrouded in mystery as they have never been used extensively to have a conclusive report. But after Feb 27, I will rather vouch for our home-grown Astra than Vladimir arrow.

R-27 is q

R77 - Active Guidance, advertised range (80-100 km). Range varies greatly according to launch circumstances.




Interesting thing is, though R-27EA seems to be a more promising missile than R77, it has never seen the light of the day. Most of the performance of Russian missiles are shrouded in mystery as they have never been used extensively to have a conclusive report. But after Feb 27, I will rather vouch for our home-grown Astra than Vladimir arrow.

We ordered R-27 ER1 and ET1 variants after the Balakot episode.
Wonder why we did not procure EA and EM variants considering they have significantly longer ranges.

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

All are wiki ranges, quoted from Russian propaganda leaflets,

There are hardly any sources which quote the real ranges of these Russian missiles.

 

[Frontrunner]

R-27 is q

We ordered R-27 ER1 and ET1 variants after the Balakot episode.
Wonder why we did not procure EA and EM variants considering they have significantly longer ranges.

In few media reports nd one in idrw it was mentioned that we ordered 400 R-27EA .. nd there won't be any case of going for a semi active version of R 27 after dogfight lessons that IAF learned..

 

[WARREN SS]

In few media reports nd one in idrw it was mentioned that we ordered 400 R-27EA .. nd there won't be any case of going for a semi active version of R 27 after dogfight lessons that IAF learned..

Nope India Bought
100 R-27ER semi-active-radar homing extended-range version

200 R-27 ET infrared-homing extended-range version


R-27 ET are Very Effective Missile its Works on Passive Infrared With OLS-30 is used in conjunction with the helmet mounted sighting system. The OLS-30 is a combined IRST/LR device using a cooled, broad waveband sensor. Detection range is up to 90 km, while the laser ranger is effective to 3.5 km. Targets are displayed on the same LCD display as the radar

Its Makes u Target Enemy Plane by Going Cold



Only Effective counter Measures are (DIRCM) Directional Infrared Counter Measures Which Porkies Lack