Russian involvement in Syrian crisis

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You are a moderator perhaps ? :tongue2:

Believe me, hundreds of fake news have been posted there by Assad/ Putin fan boys. They did such a good job flooding the thread with their BS that almost everyone including me stopped checking it.
are u supporting turkey ??? shame in you now get ready for cultural enrichment.
 

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Actually the truth between propaganda and over looked Post's, the Turkish pish getting lot of momentum becoz Russian let them to ,after 33 Turkish soldiers died Russia I. Difficult position so they will bounce back when this Turkish push settle down if Turkey didn't succeed e.d will be over thorn and replaced by a NATO puppet which is not a gud thing for Russians so they let this things happen to show e.d is something
 

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BIG : According to Lindsey Snell , A total of 1,400 #Pakistani mercenaries are to join the Turkish-backed group, which is one of the many non-government militias involved in the #Syrian civil war. A batch of 100 PA soilders have already landed and mercenaries are on the way



pakis suicidal against Russians!

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are u supporting turkey ??? shame in you now get ready for cultural enrichment.
I am supporting Turkey when they engage Assad. I am supporting YPG when Turkey engages them.

Anyway it is mostly terrorists who die at the end of day. In Syria , terrorists fight other terrorists. Chinese Uighur terrorists fight Lebanese terrorists, imagine that :confused1:

Even YPG are no saints, though arguably the nicer chaps.
 

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BIG : According to Lindsey Snell , A total of 1,400 #Pakistani mercenaries are to join the Turkish-backed group, which is one of the many non-government militias involved in the #Syrian civil war. A batch of 100 PA soilders have already landed and mercenaries are on the way



pakis suicidal against Russians!

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Are you telling us that Pakis mercenaries are going to fight other Pakis in Syria ? Lot of Shia Pakis fighting for Assad already. Paid with Teheran ‘s money.
 

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Are you telling us that Pakis mercenaries are going to fight other Pakis in Syria ? Lot of Shia Pakis fighting for Assad already. Paid with Teheran ‘s money.
its always been paki vs pakis..cuz they sell themselves to anyone!..them pakis are always salves and wiill be slaves!
 

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Russia will keep the situation dynamic,as Assad gaining lost control in all territories will make russia lose its leverage it has on him,Turkish drones can easily be destroyed by russia from air as well as ground but they are not ,russia wants to make some kind of deal with Turkey regarding idlib
 

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Pentagon, State official clash over arming Turkey in Syria fight

As the fighting between Turkey and Russian-backed Syrian troops continues to escalate, a senior State Department official is facing resistance from the Pentagon over sending additional military equipment to assist Ankara, four people familiar with the matter told our colleagues Seligman and Nahal Toosi.

Turkey, a NATO ally that has come to the aid of Syrian rebels in Idlib province, has asked the U.S. to deploy two Patriot anti-aircraft batteries on its southern border. Special Envoy to Syria James Jeffrey is urging the Pentagon to follow through but the Joint Chiefs of Staff Staff and the Office of the Secretary of Defense are resisting, warning that helping Turkey would set a bad precedent and would not change Russian or Syrian calculations in the conflict.

https://www.politico.com/newsletter...lash-over-arming-turkey-in-syria-fight-785766
 

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Btw, with all these proof of Turkish aerislbinvincibility over Syria upto Aleppo, what hsppened to the vaunted Syrian S-300 batteries which have long ago been networked to Russian AD system in Syria?

So Pantsir is a failure, S-300 which is network with Russia AD system in Syria a failure, what else? Could it mean Russian S-400 radar could not detect Syrian warplanes or UAVs or pass data to Syrians? Is the problem the radars or the networking or Russian AD system has been electronically neutered?

I maintain that this S-400 is simply an overhyped Russian weapon.
 

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We have some stupid trolls here that keep derailing the thread ranting about how much Russian Air defense suck, yet another Turkish drone was downed again. These are just the ones that land in government controlled areas :lol:


At least two more Turkish soldiers died, Syrians also took POWs, apparently some Turkish soldiers amongst the captured and the Turks and their terrorists buddies lost more ground while Russian military deployed in the region.



 

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Btw, with all these proof of Turkish aerislbinvincibility over Syria upto Aleppo, what hsppened to the vaunted Syrian S-300 batteries which have long ago been networked to Russian AD system in Syria?

So Pantsir is a failure, S-300 which is network with Russia AD system in Syria a failure, what else? Could it mean Russian S-400 radar could not detect Syrian warplanes or UAVs or pass data to Syrians? Is the problem the radars or the networking or Russian AD system has been electronically neutered?

I maintain that this S-400 is simply an overhyped Russian weapon.

You must be restarted or like to just rant like an idiot. When the fuck did the S-400 ever play a role? That is for the defense of Russian bases you dip shit. If you question the effectiveness of Russian air defenses look at the thousands of aircraft downed in Vietnam, Arab Israeli wars, and Gulf War as well as many other smaller conflicts.

Now stop spamming the thread.
 

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Replace ‘Failed’ Russian S-300 In Syria With Chinese Air Defence System: Chinese Media

Syria should replace its ‘failed’ Russian S-300 and Pantsir air defence systems (ADS) with the China made Red Flag series such as the Hongqi 9, the export version of FD-2000 land-based ADS.

State-aligned media outlet Sina.com reported that after several Israeli air-to-ground missile strikes, Russian S-300, S-200, SA11 and Pantsir-S1 systems, which are part of the Syrian air defense forces, proved “completely useless.”

This is because the US has obtained complete performance details and lock-on codes of the S-300 after it bought key parts of the system from Belarus since 1994. Besides, countries with which the US shares defence relationship such as Cyprus, Ukraine, Greece and Egypt also have the S-300 which the US may have studied against its F-16 and F-35 fighters and shared the information with Israel.

In addition, the Syrian military has summarized several fatal problems of Russian-made anti-aircraft missiles: the backwardness of the electronic system leads to poor anti-jamming capabilities, the effective range is far short from what is claimed (this is so Russian), and the system's degree of automation is low.

To change the situation, the (Syrian) national defense air system must be upgraded. There are many deficiencies in the Russian-made air defense missiles. The Chinese red flag series of air defense missiles should be preferred, the report said.

The Hongqi 9 series has strong technical and tactical confidentiality, and the Israeli Air Force has not mastered the parameters of the Hongqi 9. It has created a record of 9 consecutive hits, which is superior to the S-400 and Patriot, Sina.com stressed.

https://www.defenseworld.net/news/2...ir_Defence_System__Chinese_Media#.Xl2qklMRUwA

It's clear why China bought S-400: to learn its weaknesses and improve China's indigenous SAM system. If this is the case India is spending billions on S-400 for nothing for surely China will pass on its knowledge of it to Pakiland.
 
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You must be restarted or like to just rant like an idiot. When the fuck did the S-400 ever play a role? That is for the defense of Russian bases you dip shit. If you question the effectiveness of Russian air defenses look at the thousands of aircraft downed in Vietnam, Arab Israeli wars, and Gulf War as well as many other smaller conflicts.

Now stop spamming the thread.
Dude you need to learn more before lunching personal attacks.

It's Official, Russia and Syria Have Linked Their Air Defense Networks

Russia says it has formally linked its air defenses in Syria together with those of the regime of Bashar Al Assad. This could potentially limit the U.S. military’s ability to support its local partners fighting ISIS, increases the risk of a dangerous confrontation, and just add yet another layer to an ever more complicated situation on the ground.

Chief of Staff and Deputy Commander of the Russian Aerospace Forces Major-General Sergey Meshcheryakov made the announcement during a press roundtable at the Army-2017 International-Military Technical Forum on Aug. 25, 2017, according to state-run media outlet TASS. The event at the Patriot Expocentre in the Moscow Region is an annual military trade show and this year also includes a pavilion dedicated to the Kremlin’s intervention in Syria.


And what's Russia's top dog AD in Syria? S-400!
 
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It's Official, Russia and Syria Have Linked Their Air Defense Networks

Russia says it has formally linked its air defenses in Syria together with those of the regime of Bashar Al Assad. This could potentially limit the U.S. military’s ability to support its local partners fighting ISIS, increases the risk of a dangerous confrontation, and just add yet another layer to an ever more complicated situation on the ground.

Chief of Staff and Deputy Commander of the Russian Aerospace Forces Major-General Sergey Meshcheryakov made the announcement during a press roundtable at the Army-2017 International-Military Technical Forum on Aug. 25, 2017, according to state-run media outlet TASS. The event at the Patriot Expocentre in the Moscow Region is an annual military trade show and this year also includes a pavilion dedicated to the Kremlin’s intervention in Syria.


And what's Russia's top dog AD in Syria? S-400!



And can you tell everyone how many times the S-400 was fired over Syria....? Linking air defenses means nothing other then you share information, at the end of the day it’s Syrians and their old air defenses that are primarily made up of ancient S-200s and some short range Pantsirs that engage targets and not Russian manned S-400s and S-300s.

The Turks don’t even want to fly in Syrian airspace unless it’s to evacuate wounded.
 

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And can you tell everyone how many times the S-400 was fired over Syria....? Linking air defenses means nothing other then you share information, at the end of the day it’s Syrians and their old air defenses that are primarily made up of ancient S-200s and some short range Pantsirs that engage targets and not Russian manned S-400s and S-300s.

The Turks don’t even want to fly in Syrian airspace unless it’s to evacuate wounded.
Unbelievable... Since Russia's S-400 is linked to Syrian AD systems (and all are compatible systems since all are Russian origin), Russians should automatically pass S-400 radar or targetting data to the Syrians to allow Syrians to defeat possible enemy aerial intruders.

Turkey has been bombing Syrian targets as far as Aleppo.

 

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Unbelievable... Since Russia's S-400 is linked to Syrian AD systems (and all are compatible systems since all are Russian origin), Russians should automatically pass S-400 radar or targetting data to the Syrians to allow Syrians to defeat possible enemy aerial intruders.

Turkey has been bombing Syrian target as far as Aleppo.


Even if you somehow believe Russia linked information from the S-400 radar to crusty 1960s Soviet era radars that Syria operates how do you expect Pantsirs and S-200 do do anything substantial?

For one the Pantsir is a very short range system and it’s spread out throughout the country, that means aircraft can easily bomb targets out of the Pantsirs reach.

Secondly, the S-200 was designed for targeting high altitude threats such as bombers. So aircraft can simply fly under 5,000 feet and avoid being shot down. That Israeli F-16 that was shot down was shot down because it flew too high and as a result the S-200 did what it was designed to do.

So you have two very limited air defenses systems that do not cover all of Syria. It’s funny how now Turkish drone videos are pretty much none existent. The Turks had a field day over Idlib earlier in the week, once Syrians moved their air defenses in the region then those drone have been falling out of the sky and the Turks have been losing ground again.
 

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