Russian involvement in Syrian crisis

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That language tho.


According to some sources,3 Russians have been killed. We do not know yet if they are regular russian soldiers,or volunteers or something else..
I hope Russian air war against ISIS is more succesful than against us: for example fighter squadron 24 tally in War: 877 aerial victories with 38 own losses of which 18 dead...... @gadeshi, how is the training of russian pilots? Hopefully better than then.

https://fi.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hävittäjälentolaivue_24
 

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I hope Russian air war against ISIS is more succesful than against us: for example fighter squadron 24 tally in War: 877 aerial victories with 38 own losses of which 18 dead......@gadesh, how is the training of russian pilots? Hopefully better than then.

https://fi.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hävittäjälentolaivue_24
Until proven otherwise,there isn't an aerial threat against Russian aircrafts,so the possibility to see an aerial combat involving a Russian aircraft over Syia is very low.
 

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I hope Russian air war against ISIS is more succesful than against us: for example fighter squadron 24 tally in War: 877 aerial victories with 38 own losses of which 18 dead...... @gadeshi, how is the training of russian pilots? Hopefully better than then.

https://fi.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hävittäjälentolaivue_24
130 flight hours a year, war training with weapons twice a month, one large drill a quartile is an average ratio for tactical aviation. 200 flight hours for helo pilots with the same weapons trainings and complex drills ratios.
It is quite impressive if you ask me.
Only Americans fly the same often but with more rare weapons trainings and drills.
And of course, Israeli have the record with almost 300 hrs a year (I wonder, wether they slip sometimes?) :)


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130 flight hours a year, war training with weapons twice a month, one large drill a quartile is an average ratio for tactical aviation. 200 flight hours for helo pilots with the same weapons trainings and complex drills ratios.
It is quite impressive if you ask me.
Only Americans fly the same often but with more rare weapons trainings and drills.
And of course, Israeli have the record with almost 300 hrs a year (I wonder, wether they slip sometimes?) :)


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130 hours only ?
As for the Israelis,i wonder how would they perform against most skilled air forces...
 

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130 hours only ?
As for the Israelis,i wonder how would they perform against most skilled air forces...
French have 80-100 a year. Americans have 100-130.

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French have 80-100 a year. Americans have 100-130.

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The minimum required by NATO is 180 hours/year.
We are at something like 160 hours/year. (and 175 hours/year for the Rafale/SuperE pilots of the navy)
 
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The minimum required by NATO is 180 hours/year.
We are at something like 160 hours/year. (and 175 hours/year for the Rafale/SuperE pilots of the navy)
Any proof of this bearing in mind average NATO technical readiness 30% :)

Russians and Americans have transfered all the training activities possible to realistic full scale simulators to save the planes lifetime and reduce maintenance costs.

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Any proof of this bearing in mind average NATO technical readiness 30% :)

Russians and Americans have transfered all the training activities possible to realistic full scale simulators to save the planes lifetime and reduce maintenance costs.

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Well,we are improving,not so perfect,but improving.
In 2015,it will be better.

Rafale : 2013 : 45,60% / 2014 : 47,70%
Rafale Marine : 2013 : 38,6% / 2014 : 46,6%
Mirage 2000 D : 2013 : 33,40% / 2014 : 38,70%
Mirage 2000-5 : 2013 : 39,60% / 2014 : 37,50%
Mirage 2000 C : 2013 : 27,30% / 2014 : 46,30%
Mirage 2000 B : 2013 : 40,90% / 2014 : 41,70%
Mirage 2000 N : Classified

What's Russia's ?
 

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Well,we are improving,not so perfect,but improving.
In 2015,it will be better.

Rafale : 2013 : 45,60% / 2014 : 47,70%
Rafale Marine : 2013 : 38,6% / 2014 : 46,6%
Mirage 2000 D : 2013 : 33,40% / 2014 : 38,70%
Mirage 2000-5 : 2013 : 39,60% / 2014 : 37,50%
Mirage 2000 C : 2013 : 27,30% / 2014 : 46,30%
Mirage 2000 B : 2013 : 40,90% / 2014 : 41,70%
Mirage 2000 N : Classified

What's Russia's ?
According to VKS Chief, technical readiness has raised from 40% in 2011 to 60% in 2013 and sits on 70-75% in 2014-2015 (a lot of new planes, several full units capital repairs and modernizations and airbases infrastructure complete renewance have done their part).
Will wait for EOY to see the final result, but it will not be lower than 70% any way, beibg closer to 75%.

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Technical readiness in 2005-2008 has been some 25% due to funding shortage.
I'm not willing even remember the disaster prior to 2005 with lower than 20% during a decade...
Funding shortage is common pain for Russia prior to 2005 and for NATO now.

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Russian Su-30SM intercepting a US MQ-9 'Reaper' UAV over Syria
What is the purpose of the US flying drones given they have done next to nothing in the past year?

I think the Russians are suspicious that the US drones might be collecting information about Syrian Army formations and passing them on to ISIS and other "moderate" terrorists. No wonder when Russia, Syria, Iraq, and Iran set up the intelligence cell in Baghdad, they kept the US in the dark.
 

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Can Russia afford its military campaign in Syria

Russia’s military operations in Syria Nightmare for US

US-Russia deal to avoid Syria air incidents
(It is easy speculate that Russia offered the US a face saving option to get out of the embarrassing situation the US finds itself in, as we are told about a so called US-Russia ‘deal’ when in reality this might as well be a US-needs-to-get-out-of-Russia’s-way deal, given that Russia is operating with Syrian consent.)


SYRIA, Russia bombing ISIS near Aleppo - СИРИЯ Авиация России наносит удары в окрестностях Алеппо
(One ISIS claims Russians are targeting civilians. Well, where are the civilians? Most have fled to Assad controlled Syria and some have left the country, and what are these terrorists doing in an urban or sub-urban area?)

 
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Syrian war Military report 2015 General FrontLine information - WAR - Russia vs Syria- ISIS

I request @ShahryarHedayatiSHBA to please help translate and summarize whatever is being said here.
 

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UNIQUE drone footage HD of Syrian airstrike against ISIS in Harasta, Syria

Report from the frontline where Syrian troops fight against ISIS and al-Qaeda / al-Nusra terrorists

Under the cover of Russian airstrikes, SAA is storming ISIS / Al-Qaeda terrorist positions 12/10/15

Great Russian TV report from Salma, Al-Qaeda black hole at the Syrian border
 

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GRAPHIC TV report: Deadly trail left by retreating Al-Nusra/Al-Qaeda jihadists in Bahsa village
(Most of the graphic content has been nicely hidden, so one should feel safe to see this video. See how many villagers have been killed by the so called "moderate" terrorists.)


Report from the frontline where Syrian troops fight against ISIS and al-Qaeda / al-Nusra terrorists
 

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Washington Forced to Give Tacit Consent to Russian Intervention
In private considerable parts of security and intelligence communities in Washington and other Western capitals essentially agree with Russian analysis of Syria situation

Anatol Lieven | (Al Jazeera) | Russia Insider



Originally appeared at Al Jazeera

The Russian government has a number of different motives for its intervention in the conflict in Syria. Among these are the desire to help an old ally, to be seen once more as a great power on the world stage, and establish a position that will force US and European leaders to treat Russia’s views with greater respect, especially over the Ukraine crisis.

Russia’s strategy, however, also stems from a particular analysis of the situation in Syria based on a mixture of hard-headed realism and the experience of over two decades since the fall of communism. The Russian analysis is that the US strategy of arming and building up the Syrian “moderate opposition” never stood any chance of success and has now been recognised by the Pentagon as a failed strategy. Also, under these circumstances, if the Baath state in Damascus is overthrown, the result will be, at best, long-term anarchy; and at worst: a takeover by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) and al-Qaeda.

Reminiscent of Western tactics

Moscow has, therefore, decided to provide the Syrian state and its Hezbollah and Kurdish allies with a Russian air force, in the same way (in the view of Russian officials) the US provided an air force for the Libyan opposition in 2011, the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan in 2001, the Kosovo Liberation Army in 1999, and the Croatian army in 1995.

This Russian decision came when it did because Syrian state forces seemed to be crumbling in the face of ISIL attacks, and also because the state of US policy and interests have made it highly unlikely that the US would do anything to block Russia’s actions.

On the last point, Russian analysis has already been shown to be entirely correct. This is because US officials are now faced with an interlocking set of seemingly impossible dilemmas in the Middle East. For obvious reasons, ISIL has now joined al-Qaeda, by the US’ thinking, as posing by far the greatest threat of terrorism against the US and Europe. In Iraq, this has led to what amounts to US-Iranian cooperation in supporting the Shia-dominated Iraqi government against ISIL. This has also contributed to the Obama administration’s nuclear deal with Iran.

In the kind of simple strategic calculations beloved by international relations students (and which actually happened on occasions during the Cold War), the US would simply move over towards an alliance with Iran, Hezbollah and the Syrian state in the region. But this is obviously impossible for multiple reasons: It would cost the US its alliance with Saudi Arabia, the Gulf States and Turkey - with dangerous implications for the wider struggle against terrorism.

Washington is, therefore, left with a set of essentially contradictory interests and policies in the region. Indeed, and very largely because of past US actions, the Middle East has developed such complex and heavily-armed conflicts that nostable hegemony over the region is currently possible.

Tacit consent

The US’ inability to block Russia’s new strategy is also because, in private, considerable parts of the security and intelligence communities in Washington and other Western capitals essentially agree with Russian analyses: that the moderate Syrian opposition is not developing as a serious military force.

Under these circumstances, to destroy the Syrian government and army would risk playing disastrously into the hands of ISIL and al-Qaeda. These analysts fully recognise the odious record of the Syrian state - but the concept of “our son of a b***h” is no more alien to the CIA than it is to the KGB.

The development of this kind of thinking in the West brings these analysts closer to an underlying feature of Russian analysis (also shared by many others in Beijing, Delhi and elsewhere), that in many parts of the world, states - not regimes, but states - are far more fragile entities than most Western thinking has assumed. Very often, regimes and states are one and the same thing, so that if you bring down one, you also destroy the other. The consequences of this - especially in an era of international terrorists seeking safe havens in ungoverned territories - may be much worse than leaving a dictatorship in power.

This thinking has its roots in historical memories of past periods of chaos in their own countries. It is close to the old saying - in its different forms - that: “A day of anarchy is worse than a hundred years of tyranny”. In the view of Moscow, the examples of Afghanistan since 1992, Iraq since 2003, and Libya since 2011 have proved this argument so definitively that no further discussion is necessary.

A certain mood is, therefore, growing in Washington to let Moscow pursue its intervention in Syria and garner all the resulting risks and unpopularity, while, perhaps in the wider scheme of things, also serving long-term US interests. Among these risks for the Russian government are that the Russian people themselves may turn against this intervention, which - according to opinion polls - they seem to view in a very different light to Moscow’s strategy in Ukraine. If Washington had a real and viable choice in the matter, this might well be described as a dreadfully cynical US approach. But does Washington have a choice?
 

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NATO Unity Crumbles - Slovakia Welcomes Russian Intervention in Syria
Slovak PM Robert Fico says he doesn’t wear ideological blinders.

(German Economic News) | Russia Insider



This article originally appeared in German Economic News.

Translated from German by Jan Schoepe

Russia’s intervention in the Syrian conflict has led to a schism inside NATO as Slovakia became the first member country to side with Russia. Meanwhile, German foreign minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier has attempted to arrange talks between Iran and Saudi Arabia to find a diplomatic solution to the crisis.

Prime minister Robert Fico of NATO member Slovakia is not opposed to Russia’s intervention in the Syrian conflict.

«If either an American or a Russian attack against targets of the Islamic State were successful, in both cases the same result is what counts», the social democrat said on Saturday during a Slovakian radio broadcast. He stated that he doesn’t wear ideological blinders. According to Fico, the conflict in Syria can only be solved in cooperation with the Syrian leader, Bashar al-Assad.

Russia continued with air strikes against IS over the weekend. «Firstly, we are defending our national interests and secondly, our assistance was requested by the Syrian government», Dmitri Medvedev, the Russian head of government stated during an interview on state-run television.

Medvedev also somewhat distanced himself (Medvedev is viewed as representing Russian liberal interests - Ed.) from president Assad. «He is the legitimate president but we are not competing on behalf of a certain politician. The Syrian nation decides who leads it», he said on Saturday. From the onset of Russian air strikes in Syria, the Russians claimed that they did not want to support Assad at all costs. However, they refused illegal demands to overthrow an elected head of state by military force from abroad.

According to the Russian Department of Defence, around 40 sorties were flown in Syria within 24 hours. Major general Igor Konaschenkov stated that 49 terrorist targets were destroyed.

Due to these bombardments, Islamic State have changed their tactics and undertook action to decentralise their ammunition dumps and headquarters. Konaschenkov pointed out that despite these measures, Russian bombers were still able to locate and destroy many enemy positions.

German FM Steinmeier requested that Iran contribute to efforts to end the Syrian war. «My wish is that Iran uses its influence on the Syrian government, including Assad and his circle, so that we can take the first steps towards a de-escalation of the conflict», Steinmeier said on Saturday during a meeting in Tehran.

Previous attempts at bringing Iran together with other regional powers, such as Turkey and Saudi Arabia, for Syrian peace talks have thus far failed. On Sunday, Steinmeier intends to travel to Saudi Arabia, a significant regional counterpart to Iran, whilst simultaneously, Federal Chancellor Merkel will visit Turkey.

The Iranian foreign minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif, appeared open-minded about contributing towards a peaceful solution for Syria. He stated that Iran is willing to play a «constructive role» and speak to all neighbours.

Steinmeier appealed to both sides to overcome any lack of enthusiasm to communicate. «Each actor in this region has responsibilities which exceed national interests. These responsibilities are more important than (political) ambitions and national pride», according to Steinmeier.

With the Iranian role in Syria in mind, Steinmeier stated that «It is no secret that our positions are not always congruent but that we share a common interest in putting an end to the killing and ensuring that Syria will remain a country.»

Concerning Assad’s future, Zarif said that there had been to much focus on «individuals» in the past and that it would be preferable to preserve governmental institutions. He stated that «the Syrian people will decide who will be there from the beginning, and who will remain at the end.»
 

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Please spend six minutes to see this video.

Salient points:
  • US is playing word games.
  • ISIS, al-Qaida, al-Nusra, FSA are all but same.
  • West deliberately posted pictures from before airstrikes began to accuse Russia of causing civilian casualties.

WWIII - Syria, Russia & Iran - The New Equation
 

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Syrian president visits Russia for talks with Putin -- Kremlin
2015-10-21 16:00:31

MOSCOW, Oct. 21 (Xinhua) -- Syrian President Bashar Assad visited Moscow on Tuesday for talks with his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said here Wednesday.

"The President of Syria paid a working visit to Moscow on Oct. 20. Talks in narrow and expanded format with the participation of senior leadership of Russia were held in the Kremlin," he said in a statement.

The talks were rather lengthy, and Assad informed Putin about the situation in Syria and plans for the future in detail, Peskov said.

He added that both leaders also discussed the progress of Russia's military operation in Syria, the fight against terrorists and various aspects of bilateral relations.

According to the TASS news agency, Peskov said that the footage of the beginning of the talks would be made public soon and that in that part of the conversation both leaders "made rather large statements."

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-10/21/c_134736184.htm


Unofficial ~ Al Assad is likely to visit China as the next stop.


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