Russia Ukraine War 2022

Who will win this war?.


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Longewala

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In that hypothetical scenario I gave, China used as an excuse "militant hinduism" to justify arming, supporting and protecting a small section of India (Russia used Maidan, EU and NATO aspirations of the new Ukrainian government in 2014 to justify arming, protecting and supporting so called Donetsk and Luhamsk Republics). It could be any justification that has been blown out of proportion.

Anyway, would you be okay if India do nothing against theese so called separatists (some members are condemning Ukraine for attacking and trying to retake separatists in Donetsk and Luhansk)?
"China used as an excuse "militant hinduism" to justify arming, supporting and protecting"
Neither China nor Pakistan has needed any excuse for supporting armed anti India groups.
And you are again sidestepping.

The equivalent of what happened in Ukraine is, as I said:
- hypothetical "militant Hindus" form an organised group whose core principles is that Hindus are a superior race and advocate extermination of "others"
- such "militant Hindus" rise to positions of power, openly carried out rallies and had organised military units
-Attack and murder large numbers of people in a "minority" province over years

So, answer the damn question.
Would that be ok?
 

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"China used as an excuse "militant hinduism" to justify arming, supporting and protecting"
Neither China nor Pakistan has needed any excuse for supporting armed anti India groups.
And you are again sidestepping.

The equivalent of what happened in Ukraine is, as I said:
- hypothetical "militant Hindus" form an organised group whose core principles is that Hindus are a superior race and advocate extermination of "others"
- such "militant Hindus" rise to positions of power, openly carried out rallies and had organised military units
-Attack and murder large numbers of people in a "minority" province over years

So, answer the damn question.
Would that be ok?

Whatever. Evade, evade, and evade...
 

JBH22

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My observations as since start of this operations
  1. Ukraine have put up stiff resistance in kharkiv, which is surprising. It was supposedly a Russian speaking pro town that too close to the border. Russian surely underestimated the will of Ukrainian to fight back.
  2. Ukraine military concentration near donetsk tend to confirm they were planning something. But with Russia regrouping and attacking them, if they get trapped in that cauldron a large chunk of UAF gets out of combat.
  3. UAF supply chain and reserves virtually wiped off. Results will show certainly in coming days, but who will blink first Russia or Ukraine.
  4. What is going to be plan if Ukraine is not landlocked then this whole enterprise was a waste of national treasure and lives for Putin.
 

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My observations as since start of this operations
  1. Ukraine have put up stiff resistance in kharkiv, which is surprising. It was supposedly a Russian speaking pro town that too close to the border. Russian surely underestimated the will of Ukrainian to fight back.
  2. Ukraine military concentration near donetsk tend to confirm they were planning something. But with Russia regrouping and attacking them, if they get trapped in that cauldron a large chunk of UAF gets out of combat.
  3. UAF supply chain and reserves virtually wiped off. Results will show certainly in coming days, but who will blink first Russia or Ukraine.
  4. What is going to be plan if Ukraine is not landlocked then this whole enterprise was a waste of national treasure and lives for Putin.

Your observation No. 1 only confirms that Putin's claim of protecting Russian speakers in Ukraine is bogus. These Russian speakers are Ukrainians, feel Ulrainians, and most of all want to be Ukrainians and not be part of any bogus Russia republic or Russia itself.

Observations 2-4 remain to be seen.
 

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Your observation No. 1 only confirms that Putin's claim of protecting Russian speakers in Ukraine is bogus. These Russian speakers are Ukrainians, feel Ulrainians, and most of all want to be Ukrainians and not be part of any bogus Russia republic or Russia itself.

Observations 2-5 remain to be seen.
WTF is a Ukrainian? :pound:

All “Ukrainians” are Russians, genetically and linguistically.
 

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Your observation No. 1 only confirms that Putin's claim of protecting Russian speakers in Ukraine is bogus. These Russian speakers are Ukrainians, feel Ukrainians, and most of all want to be Ukrainians and not be part of any bogus Russia republic or Russia itself.
There are over 50,000 Civil militia Fighting against UKR in this war from DNR and LNR are u purposely blind about them

There is no uprising Cremia after Russian take over

So Putin's claim is right about many parts of ukrain
 

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WTF is a Ukrainian? :pound:

All “Ukrainians” are Russians, genetically and linguistically.

Ok. But since Russia originated from Kiev, how about all Russians are Ukrainians?

Now, Ukrainians do not want anything to do anymore with their wayward child (Russia).

:bplease:
 

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My observations as since start of this operations
  1. Ukraine have put up stiff resistance in kharkiv, which is surprising. It was supposedly a Russian speaking pro town that too close to the border. Russian surely underestimated the will of Ukrainian to fight back.
  2. Ukraine military concentration near donetsk tend to confirm they were planning something. But with Russia regrouping and attacking them, if they get trapped in that cauldron a large chunk of UAF gets out of combat.
  3. UAF supply chain and reserves virtually wiped off. Results will show certainly in coming days, but who will blink first Russia or Ukraine.
  4. What is going to be plan if Ukraine is not landlocked then this whole enterprise was a waste of national treasure and lives for Putin.

It doesn’t matter if there was a lot of resistance around Kharkiv. Most soldiers will just take out orders regardless. Regarding pro and anti Russians sentiments, Ukrainian soldier from west Ukraine get sent to fight too.

Half of the Ukrainian army is in the Donbass region trying to keep the Russian army from moving west/north. Ukrainians have prepared for this for years, there are fortified and well hidden defenses everywhere. Ukrainians are also not shy about using civilian as as human shields and hiding heavy military equipment in residential and retail areas.
 

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One thing is for sure, NATO is weening itself away from US as a security provider and is going to invest into it's own capabilities, equip itself with real war reserves and mentally prepare itself in case Donald Trump wins the next election.
Trump was literally asking for Putin to give info on Biden and his son's involvement in Ukraine and blackmailing over support against Russia.
Biden is so weak and stupid, totally inept at taming inflation or introducing any real reforms to reduce deficit.
Americans can't put up with this level of inflation and support for democrats is declining now.
 

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Territory name was KievRus, not KievUkraine
Agree. But the territory of KievRus is still Kiev.

Besides, KievRus existed first than "Russia." So Russia (which came simply copied its named from KievRus (the Ukrainians).
 

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Ok. But since Russia originated from Kiev, how about all Russians are Ukrainians?

Now, Ukrainians do not want anything to do anymore with their wayward child (Russia).

:bplease:
Why would Russians call themselves a term coined by the Polish in the 16th century? This whole Ukrainian term is a fairly modern concept compared to the history of East Slavic people


Even western sources state this:

 
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If @dbdzzzzzz is being banned for petty crap, then I definitely think Americunt glowies making excuses for white supremacy and Nazism and talking about "militant Hinduism" should be kicked out of here.

Fucking ridiculous.
if mods wont ban him, just ask everyone to put this racist self-hating fake pinoy ( he doesn't live in Phillipines, that much is certain from the time stamp of his posts) on ignore list and move on
 

GaudaNaresh

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Agree. But the territory of KievRus is still Kiev.

Besides, KievRus existed first than "Russia." So Russia (which came simply copied its named from KievRus (the Ukrainians).
Rus are the original and Rus didn't copy Kievan Rus any more than Ukrainians did. Two children have equal claim to their parent's title and FYI city of Novgorod and Kiev are founded around the same time
 

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