Prime Minister historic visit to Israel

[Project Dharma]

I promise, not trying to troll lol

 

[Cutting Edge 2]

Complete noob post ahead.

Is it different from the cheap watch I can buy off Amazon? Why has it been so hard for India to develop one?
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Those watches are not atomic clocks but rather radio wave receiving watches.

Here is some info on their tech.
https://www.casio-europe.com/euro/products/watches/technology/radio-watches/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casio_Wave_Ceptor

They transmit accurate time using long distance radio towers and your watch simply works as a receiver. This is a map of Citizen's time keeping towers.

Real atomic clocks are huge machines and they don't look like clocks or watches at all.

This is an atomic clock.

 

[KumarG]

The only thing the whole drama of high-voltage hugging and male-love served was for Israel to say fcuk you to Palestians (and Mahmoud Abbas in particular) and for Modi to say fcuk you to Indian cutlets and say 'you @55holes don't matter'.

Having said that, hope we do get drones and other toys in future to blast Fcukistan away.

Policy shifts take time. For 70 years we were at best ambivalent about Israel (forget about the Jewish-American lobby). Massive shifts are taking place globally, with new alignments and blocks.

Chinese development did not happen without capital and goods markets. Now that China is looking to question the petrodollar dominance, there should be a shift. Unwinding and realignment of markets takes time. Chess pieces are moving (cheap oil, non-renewables and Paris accord, brexit, protectionism, OBOR).

As of now, TBTP have not deemed us worthy enough for cutting-edge tech.

 

[here2where]

Those watches are not atomic clocks but rather radio wave receiving watches.
...
This is an atomic clock.

Good to know Osama and Obama didn't own atomic watches...

 

[here2where]

Policy shifts take time....

Nonsense. India and Israel were always extremely intimate. Why else would Israel hand over some of their silverware when we needed them. Due to domestic cutlet appeasement politics by Chacha et chamchas and crushing dependence on Middle east oil, we kept the love affair hidden behind Sridevi's nylon sari. Now no fig leafs are required. So the power hugs and smooches :biggrin2:

 

[Cutting Edge 2]

Modi visits Israeli Seawater Desalination Plant

https://sputniknews.com/asia/201707061055295413-modi-israel-india/

 

[Cutting Edge 2]

Some nice pictures of two leaders at Israeli beach.

 

[Cutting Edge 2]

End of amazing Israeli trip.




This was the best reception ever received by our PM anywhere in the world.

Thank you Israel for your generosity. Thank you people of Israel from your 1 billion Indian friends.

Shalom, Long live India-Israel friendship.

 

[KumarG]

Nonsense. India and Israel were always extremely intimate. Why else would Israel hand over some of their silverware when we needed them. Due to domestic cutlet appeasement politics by Chacha et chamchas and crushing dependence on Middle east oil, we kept the love affair hidden behind Sridevi's nylon sari. Now no fig leafs are required. So the power hugs and smooches :biggrin2:

Really? Silverware? Whatever we got was to maintain "the balance". You reckon any of it was without extensive US discussions, if not approval? To any big bloc, we have never been more than backward cowherds. No one gives a shit about our rich civilisation. What we are seeing now is not respect, but an increasing need for a new counterbalance, both political and economic.

 

[F-14B]

Watch this relationship closely this like many others in this governments tenure will be an seismic shift as a right leaning person I am happy to see this shift I think that this was long overdue and this is also a correction of a Grave mistake that's our government made in 1948 when under Pandit Nehru India voted against the inclusion of state of Israel in the United Nations as I said Tu my watchman today it took a tea sellers boy two correct a mistake done bye a educated fool

 

[airtel]

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[AnantS]

I literally cringe when Indians go over emotional over International relationships, literally fawning and drooling over another nation, as if its not real world but some Ramanand Sagar's Alif Laila-sque episode's romantic/emotional scene. This relationship is going to be pure transactional as long as his holiness trump(or whoever presides over holy chair of US presidency) sanctions it.

Remember Israel is two timing. China and India both What Israel gives openly to India(albiet in limited fashion), China also gets albeit clandestinely. Since China can throw more money gets some more.

This visit had more importance for Israel, because Israel is kind a living in neighborhood, where none of the neighbors acknowledge its existence, wants its eviction and gets treated like pariah. Indian visit helps Israel sending message in neighborhood, that its not treated as pariah by friends of its immediate neighbors as they would like.

 

[Tshering22]

Times have changed though, I believe we are looking at a possible American, Israel and Indian alliance to counter the Russian, Chinese and Pakistani one.

Take it with a grain of salt; India and Russia would never cross swords with each other.

Even in different camps, they'll ensure never to harm each other's interests. 60 years have gone in this relationship investments and a lot of hard work has been put in. Russia wants us as an alternate irritant to the Chinese while they feel that we can keep the Chinese occupied with our matters.

Simillarly, Israel and Russia share a very strong bond. Maybe not through political interests but through cultural affiliation (lot of Israelis are Russian origin).

Despite what they say indirectly, they will never harm each other.

So there are three entities here:

1- USA vs Russia: where India and Israel will be silent partners and let China play the propaganda queen.

2- India vs China: where Russia, Israel would stay neutral and let US play the voice.

3- China vs USA: where India, Israel and Russia watch with amusement and none of them bother.

4- Pakistan vs India: where US will play the "get together" point while China aggressively supports Pakistan politically while Israel and Russia do the same from the shadows for India.


India, Israel and Russia will be three countries in this entire equation who will keep each others' interests in mind before taking any steps against the other intentionally or otherwise.

Regardless of what Pakistan, China and USA do in the long term.

 

[Moroboshi]

I literally cringe when Indians go over emotional over International relationships, literally fawning and drooling over another nation, as if its not real world but some Ramanand Sagar's Alif Laila-sque episode's romantic/emotional scene. This relationship is going to be pure transactional as long as his holiness trump(or whoever presides over holy chair of US presidency) sanctions it.

Remember Israel is two timing. China and India both What Israel gives openly to India(albiet in limited fashion), China also gets albeit clandestinely. Since China can throw more money gets some more.

This visit had more importance for Israel, because Israel is kind a living in neighborhood, where none of the neighbors acknowledge its existence, wants its eviction and gets treated like pariah. Indian visit helps Israel sending message in neighborhood, that its not treated as pariah by friends of its immediate neighbors as they would like.

While I would generally agree with approaching foreign relations in a dispassionate manner, there is no denying that Israel has always been trying to get on India's good pages since its independence, so I doubt American influence is as major as you suggest. Plus there is no denying that Judaism and Hinduism are the oldest extant religions currently on earth and both civilizations have a rich history of interactions. Modis reception in Israel must be looked at in this context. coupled with how we avoided equal equal bullshit in relation to the Palestine conflict, we are looking at a new era in our relationship with the middle East, something which was destined to happen. Now we all know that nothing is permanent and money always talks best, it cannot be understated how important this visit is to global alignments.

 

[Suryavanshi]

Take it with a grain of salt; India and Russia would never cross swords with each other.

Even in different camps, they'll ensure never to harm each other's interests. 60 years have gone in this relationship investments and a lot of hard work has been put in. Russia wants us as an alternate irritant to the Chinese while they feel that we can keep the Chinese occupied with our matters.

Simillarly, Israel and Russia share a very strong bond. Maybe not through political interests but through cultural affiliation (lot of Israelis are Russian origin).

Despite what they say indirectly, they will never harm each other.

So there are three entities here:

1- USA vs Russia: where India and Israel will be silent partners and let China play the propaganda queen.

2- India vs China: where Russia, Israel would stay neutral and let US play the voice.

3- China vs USA: where India, Israel and Russia watch with amusement and none of them bother.

4- Pakistan vs India: where US will play the "get together" point while China aggressively supports Pakistan politically while Israel and Russia do the same from the shadows for India.


India, Israel and Russia will be three countries in this entire equation who will keep each others' interests in mind before taking any steps against the other intentionally or otherwise.

Regardless of what Pakistan, China and USA do in the long term.

Sirji U sound like an intellectual and unbiased person
Respeck

 

[Tshering22]

Modi visits Israeli Seawater Desalination Plant

https://sputniknews.com/asia/201707061055295413-modi-israel-india/

Looks like Tamil Nadu could use a lot of this tech to alleviate the water shortage in that state.

I am surprised how come Palanisami didn't accompany PM Modi for this particular tour.

 

[Project Dharma]

Take it with a grain of salt; India and Russia would never cross swords with each other.

Even in different camps, they'll ensure never to harm each other's interests. 60 years have gone in this relationship investments and a lot of hard work has been put in. Russia wants us as an alternate irritant to the Chinese while they feel that we can keep the Chinese occupied with our matters.

Simillarly, Israel and Russia share a very strong bond. Maybe not through political interests but through cultural affiliation (lot of Israelis are Russian origin).

Despite what they say indirectly, they will never harm each other.

So there are three entities here:

1- USA vs Russia: where India and Israel will be silent partners and let China play the propaganda queen.

2- India vs China: where Russia, Israel would stay neutral and let US play the voice.

3- China vs USA: where India, Israel and Russia watch with amusement and none of them bother.

4- Pakistan vs India: where US will play the "get together" point while China aggressively supports Pakistan politically while Israel and Russia do the same from the shadows for India.


India, Israel and Russia will be three countries in this entire equation who will keep each others' interests in mind before taking any steps against the other intentionally or otherwise.

Regardless of what Pakistan, China and USA do in the long term.

I agree with your overall point but not specifically with 3 and 4. Will write a detailed reply when I'm at my computer.

 

[Suryavanshi]

I think the struggle of Jewish people and a faithfully dedication to the cause of Zionism has led to Israel's incredibly fast development in just about every sector.
Even when Jews live and work in other country they fund Israel and why wouldn't they, Israel consider every Jewish person a citizen of Israel.

Wish us Hindus could unite like this

 

[Screambowl]

Complete noob post ahead.

Is it different from the cheap watch I can buy off Amazon? Why has it been so hard for India to develop one?
View attachment 17393

Buddy India once had the best watches in the world, outside India people used to demand it. They were better than or at par with the swiss watches.
The famous old HMT watches. Hindustan Machine Tool watches.

Indira Gandhi did tremendous work to market it.

But our own people who had ghulami in their mind did not buy it. And slowly it went down...

automatic wrist watch some 1.5 decade back
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMT_(company)#/media/File:HMT_Kanchan_Automatic_wrist_watch.jpg

 

[Suryavanshi]

Buddy India once had the best watches in the world, outside India people used to demand it. They were better than or at par with the swiss watches.
The famous old HMT watches. Hindustan Machine Tool watches.

Indira Gandhi did tremendous work to market it.

But our own people who had ghulami in their mind did not buy it. And slowly it went down...

automatic wrist watch some 1.5 decade back
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMT_(company)#/media/File:HMT_Kanchan_Automatic_wrist_watch.jpg

I remember that watch my grandfather still may have one