PM Modi's photos, Indian flags spotted as massive protests continue in Balochistan

[Akask kumar]

China warns India, says it will intervene if New Delhi incites trouble in Balochistan

Just was waiting for their response.
A pungent one what I expected.
And look, how pi$$ed off they are! :biggrin2:
@Akask kumar @LETHALFORCE @sorcerer @rishivashista13 @Navnit Kundu

IF WE SUCESSFULLY get either separation of balochistan or we take back POK,china Gwadar dream will end for sure.. coz that china-pak corridor passes thorugh POK and of course baluchistan. its WIN WIN ..

 

[bose]

China warns India, says it will intervene if New Delhi incites trouble in Balochistan

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Both Pakistan and China are rattled it seems !!

China has picked bad habit of issuing warning ... it has become too monotonous and boring now...

We have seen what China is capable of in 65 & 71...

 

[sorcerer]

China warns India, says it will intervene if New Delhi incites trouble in Balochistan

Just was waiting for their response.
A pungent one what I expected.
And look, how pi$$ed off they are! :biggrin2:
@Akask kumar @LETHALFORCE @sorcerer @rishivashista13 @Navnit Kundu

china will do ZILCH in Balochistan.
1) pakis are slaves for china and china the master wont fight a paki war for slaves...but will aid pak with arms to deal with civilians in Balochistan and help them tag it as COUNTER TERRORISM. We can expect a few ISI owned staged attacks in Balochistan with the pak army combing behind heavy in the name of WoT killing civilians.
The same old tactic chinese does in East Turkestan with its PLA

2)china's reaction is what USA is looking forward for in Balochistan. chinese intervention will give USA the much needed "weight" it needed to push the leverage in American favor. The first stage of it being "Human rights". USA has started all the wars in the name of "Democracy and Human Rights" in another country away from their homeland which is just a strategic chock point. May be the next US presidents job is to BRING DEMOCRACY to mineral rich Balochistan as all former US presidents have done in different countries.
In Balochistan pak army and china will give the right combination of it for USA to intervene.

Most issues in Asia is local and doesnt require USA intervention..but china with its arrogance and support for terrorist state pakistan is giving USA the foothold it needs to manipulate the situation in the quest for its AXIS.


3)India has to expose chinese hands in creating trouble inside J&K by funding militant groups.Indian agencies has to come heavy on all supposedly "business transactions" done with china as pak may be routing money through chinese business associations and fronts in India to support its sleeper cells.

4)china will try to gain things with arrogance but will stay away from a direct conflict.china cant afford a screwup on many fronts where almost all negotiations with all neighbors are live and large.

 

[sorcerer]

Both Pakistan and China are rattled it seems !!

China has picked bad habit of issuing warning ... it has become too monotonous and boring now...

We have seen what China is capable of in 65 & 71...

chinese and warnings!!
those chinese dunces hasnt fought a real war for so looooooooooooong and is hiding behind the paki ass which ofcourse is the ONLY RETURNS pak is doing for china.

 

[Navnit Kundu]

China warns India, says it will intervene if New Delhi incites trouble in Balochistan

Just was waiting for their response.
A pungent one what I expected.
And look, how pi$$ed off they are! :biggrin2:
@Akask kumar @LETHALFORCE @sorcerer @rishivashista13 @Navnit Kundu

Let them intervene, it will only internationalize the Baluchistan issue.

And the threat of intervening only helps if the intervening nation has a moral standing among other nations. China intervening in anything these days is not looked at as a favorable thing by anyone in the world. They have 'intervened' in Vietnam, Myanmar, Philippines, Taiwan, K'stan, Laos, Cambodia, and no one is pleased. In fact, Chinese intervention will immediately shift global support in our favor, even by those nations who didn't even know about the Baluchistan issue. China threatening to intervene against us is like a gangster threatening to file a police complaint against a decent man. No one will take the gangster seriously in the police station, so the gangster will only come out looking like a bully and add no moral high ground to their position.

Also, how are they going to intervene? send ships from the SCS > Bay of Bengal > around Sri Lanka > refuel at Djibouti > then to Karachi harbor? It would be ironical if they use the same lengthy route to reach the battlefield which they have been trying to bypass by building CPEC. It's like a vegetarian guy saying "if you don't give me veg food immediately then I will eat non-veg to protest", khao bhai, humara kya jaata hai.

Here's the route China will need to take to reach the Baluchistan battlefield :

There is something in war called freedom of maneuver, China doesn't have it here. India can simply send strike corps from Gujarat and finish the job within 1 week. By the time Chinese ships arrive, the war would be already over. Also note that in addition to the route being long, China will also face resistance form Indian navy. So if a normal cargo ship takes 2 weeks to reach there, a military ship, after all the sea battles, if it survives, will take a month to reach Pakistan from China, with depleted manpower, food, rations, ammunition, demoralized soldiers.

Even the shortest route without any Navy interference takes 24 days.

By that time, our satellites and submarines will have taken care of the Chinese expeditionary force. On top of that, China has announced to send military personnel to help Assad in Syria so USA will want to keep China engaged in another battle to keep them away from Syria. India will not face any resistance form USA if we take on China (even the US wants China to keep away from Gwadar anyway because it is too close to American bases around Africa and Middle East).

If China sends ships to intervene, they will lose their ships, our Unit 22 Tibet strike corps will have landed in Tibet and instead of fighting to help Pakistan, China will be fighting to defend itself in Tibet. Vietnam and Philippines wont be far, and then Japan will reclaim Senkaku islands. China's game will be over. So, China can intervene if it is ready for all that escalation, it is nothing short of a WW3. Is China committed to start WW3 to save Baluchistan?

Lo karlo intervene, we are waiting.

 

[Navnit Kundu]

IF WE SUCESSFULLY get either separation of balochistan or we take back POK,china Gwadar dream will end for sure.. coz that china-pak corridor passes thorugh POK and of course baluchistan. its WIN WIN ..

Both Pakistan and China are rattled it seems !!

China has picked bad habit of issuing warning ... it has become too monotonous and boring now...

We have seen what China is capable of in 65 & 71...

...and 1987 skirmish and this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathu_La_and_Cho_La_incidents

China doesn't realize that its information war is not working. It wants to get through to the Indian citizens to make them feel like the Indian gov is picking the wrong fight and that the Indian people must oppose their government if they wish to live, because 'great China will crush India', apparently, according to 50 cent gangs on the internet. Indian media is already paid and bought by CIA funded think tanks, they are doing a good job of spinning content and making China look like a fool. USA wants there to be tension between India and China, therefore, whenever China says something, all of 'Indian' media starts barking. Of course, there is nothing 'Indian' about this media, they are all trained in American universities of journalism including Bakhra Dutta.

 

[sorcerer]

http://unpo.org/article/19409
Protest Against Human Rights Abuses Related to Brutal Implementation of CPEC, 28 August 2016, London

 

[Mikesingh]

Let's see how World reacts to this.
US is Against Baluch
China is quiet, So is Russia(we need someone with VETO power on our side) and rest of the World

I can bet my bottom dollar that the US is covertly supporting the Baloch for independence. They have a huge stake in it. Because once the CPEC through Balichistan and Gwadar are fully functional, it will pose a strategic danger to US interests in the Arabian Sea, the IOR and most importantly the Strait of Hormuz. How so? Because Gwadar will be converted into a Chinese naval base from where they would be able to dominate the areas mentioned above posing a danger to American assets in the region.

An Independent Balochistan will prevent this from happening. So I feel the CIA is busy along with MOSSAD to free Balochistan from the Pakis. The CPEC will then be as dead as a dodo.

 

[pmaitra]

The Baloch Freedom Movement is not contained within Pakistan. It is a Freedom Movement that seeks all Baloch lands in Pakistan and Iran.

During the Soviet-Mujahideen War from 1979 to 1989, the Soviets had a strong presence in Afghanistan and they were able to funnel weapons to the Baloch. Today, it is not possible.

Supporting the Baloch Movement not only threatens the territorial integrity of Pakistan, but also Iran. India needs to be careful as to what it should do. Making Iran suspicious will risk cutting off India's only route to Afghanistan, which is via Iran. If India wants access to Afghanistan, then it will need an independent and internationally recognized Balochistan. Is this feasible?

The US maybe wants Balochistan for themselves, and if this true, then it will only make Iran wary of the Baloch.

Chinese treats should be brushed off.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Let them intervene, it will only internationalize the Baluchistan issue.

And the threat of intervening only helps if the intervening nation has a moral standing among other nations. China intervening in anything these days is not looked at as a favorable thing by anyone in the world. They have 'intervened' in Vietnam, Myanmar, Philippines, Taiwan, K'stan, Laos, Cambodia, and no one is pleased. In fact, Chinese intervention will immediately shift global support in our favor, even by those nations who didn't even know about the Baluchistan issue. China threatening to intervene against us is like a gangster threatening to file a police complaint against a decent man. No one will take the gangster seriously in the police station, so the gangster will only come out looking like a bully and add no moral high ground to their position.

Also, how are they going to intervene? send ships from the SCS > Bay of Bengal > around Sri Lanka > refuel at Djibouti > then to Karachi harbor? It would be ironical if they use the same lengthy route to reach the battlefield which they have been trying to bypass by building CPEC. It's like a vegetarian guy saying "if you don't give me veg food immediately then I will eat non-veg to protest", khao bhai, humara kya jaata hai.

Here's the route China will need to take to reach the Baluchistan battlefield :

There is something in war called freedom of maneuver, China doesn't have it here. India can simply send strike corps from Gujarat and finish the job within 1 week. By the time Chinese ships arrive, the war would be already over. Also note that in addition to the route being long, China will also face resistance form Indian navy. So if a normal cargo ship takes 2 weeks to reach there, a military ship, after all the sea battles, if it survives, will take a month to reach Pakistan from China, with depleted manpower, food, rations, ammunition, demoralized soldiers.

Even the shortest route without any Navy interference takes 24 days.

By that time, our satellites and submarines will have taken care of the Chinese expeditionary force. On top of that, China has announced to send military personnel to help Assad in Syria so USA will want to keep China engaged in another battle to keep them away from Syria. India will not face any resistance form USA if we take on China (even the US wants China to keep away from Gwadar anyway because it is too close to American bases around Africa and Middle East).

If China sends ships to intervene, they will lose their ships, our Unit 22 Tibet strike corps will have landed in Tibet and instead of fighting to help Pakistan, China will be fighting to defend itself in Tibet. Vietnam and Philippines wont be far, and then Japan will reclaim Senkaku islands. China's game will be over. So, China can intervene if it is ready for all that escalation, it is nothing short of a WW3. Is China committed to start WW3 to save Baluchistan?

Lo karlo intervene, we are waiting.

Just a funny comment on Sister Forum.

 

[aditya10r]

Just a funny comment on Sister Forum.
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So much disturbance
Wonder how chinese will handle the disturbance without disturbing themselves and disturbing Pakistan
Will be a very disturbing job

 

[Akask kumar]

Just a funny comment on Sister Forum.
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nicely articulated comment, this dustrubing comment can distract the already disturb paki and chinese , derailing their gwardar dream .:biggrin2:

 

[LordOfTheUnderworlds]

The Baloch Freedom Movement is not contained within Pakistan. It is a Freedom Movement that seeks all Baloch lands in Pakistan and Iran.

During the Soviet-Mujahideen War from 1979 to 1989, the Soviets had a strong presence in Afghanistan and they were able to funnel weapons to the Baloch. Today, it is not possible.

Supporting the Baloch Movement not only threatens the territorial integrity of Pakistan, but also Iran. India needs to be careful as to what it should do. Making Iran suspicious will risk cutting off India's only route to Afghanistan, which is via Iran. If India wants access to Afghanistan, then it will need an independent and internationally recognized Balochistan. Is this feasible?

The US maybe wants Balochistan for themselves, and if this true, then it will only make Iran wary of the Baloch.

Chinese treats should be brushed off.

It is a tight situation like chess. All because of POK under occupation.

All this can be solved and North-west India (Pakistan) reorganized if India can occupy and hold Lahore, Rawalpindi, Peshawar for some time.
Question is does India have willpower and resilience to achieve that.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Baloch, Sindhi leaders in London protest China-Pak corridor, rights violations

Baloch and Sindhi leaders protest against CPEC outside Chinese Embassy in London.(ANI on Twitter)

Activists of UK-based Baloch and Sindhi groups held a demonstration against the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) and human rights violations outside the Chinese embassy here, demanding that the $46-billion project be called off.

World Sindhi Congress chairman Lakhumal Luhana told Hindustan Times the massive trade and transit project was responsible for “gross human rights violations”.

“It is a matter of life and death for us,” Luhana said, adding there were no plans for rehabilitating thousands of people displaced by the CPEC. The project is being imposed by Islamabad but could not materialise without the people’s consent, he said.

Sunday’s protest at Portland Place – the latest of several in Pakistan and elsewhere in recent weeks – was organised by the World Sindhi Congress, Sindhi Baloch Forum, Baloch National Movement, Baloch Republican Party, Baloch Human Rights Council-UK, Baloch Students and Youth Association and Baloch Students Organisation.

“Prime Minister Narendra Modi for Balochistan” and “Kadam badhao Modiji hum tumhare saath hain” were among the slogans shouted during the protest. The protesters also shouted slogans such as “No to CPEC” and “Hai haq humara aazadi”, ANI reported.

The CPEC, considered a part of China’s One Belt, One Road initiative, covers Balochistan and Sindh provinces and Pakistan-occupied Kashmir. India has formally opposed the CPEC because it runs through PoK.

The activists said the project was causing much damage to the environment and would not benefit the people of the region. Holding placards, they alleged Balochistan’s abundant resources were being diverted for the benefit of Punjab, Pakistan’s most populous province.

A memorandum opposing the CPEC was sent by post to the Chinese embassy before the demonstration. It described Balochistan as an “occupied territory” and said the CPEC is aimed at “bringing demographic changes” in the province by settling 2.5 million people from other parts of Pakistan. It added the activists also feared a “large number of people will be settled from outside” in Sindh, making the Sindhis a minority.

The protest, the first jointly organised by Sindhi and Baloch groups, came days after Modi said during an all-parties meeting that Pakistan would have to answer for “atrocities” in Balochistan and PoK. He later said during his Independence Day speech that people in Balochistan and PoK had thanked him for raising the issue.

Modi’s remarks focussed attention on the movement by Baloch nationalist leaders to highlight issues such as rights violations and enforced disappearances.

The CPEC, described as an economic “game-changer” by Pakistan and China, has strategic implications for India and Afghanistan. Pakistan’s Gwadar port in Balochistan, developed with Chinese assistance, is a key part of the project.

The protesters said Baloch and Sindhis genuinely believe the CPEC will “strengthen and lengthen their subjugation”, which they could not allow. Pakistani security agencies have intensified operations in Balochistan and Sindh to clean up for CPEC and are committing gross rights violations, they alleged.

Baloch activist Hakeem Wadela told ANI: “Pakistan wants to forcefully impose the CPEC on Balochistan. We are being shown as a minority community...whatever we are doing...it’s for our basic rights.”

Noordin Mengal, another Baloch activist, said: “They (China and Pakistan) want to snatch, scare and oppress. They are doing it today as well. Till the time they are getting benefited, they do not care about our lives. They do not care about us, nor do they have any sympathy for us.”

(With inputs from ANI)

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Baloch, Sindhi leaders in London protest China-Pak corridor, rights violations

Baloch and Sindhi leaders protest against CPEC outside Chinese Embassy in London.(ANI on Twitter)

Activists of UK-based Baloch and Sindhi groups held a demonstration against the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) and human rights violations outside the Chinese embassy here, demanding that the $46-billion project be called off.

World Sindhi Congress chairman Lakhumal Luhana told Hindustan Times the massive trade and transit project was responsible for “gross human rights violations”.

“It is a matter of life and death for us,” Luhana said, adding there were no plans for rehabilitating thousands of people displaced by the CPEC. The project is being imposed by Islamabad but could not materialise without the people’s consent, he said.

Sunday’s protest at Portland Place – the latest of several in Pakistan and elsewhere in recent weeks – was organised by the World Sindhi Congress, Sindhi Baloch Forum, Baloch National Movement, Baloch Republican Party, Baloch Human Rights Council-UK, Baloch Students and Youth Association and Baloch Students Organisation.

“Prime Minister Narendra Modi for Balochistan” and “Kadam badhao Modiji hum tumhare saath hain” were among the slogans shouted during the protest. The protesters also shouted slogans such as “No to CPEC” and “Hai haq humara aazadi”, ANI reported.

The CPEC, considered a part of China’s One Belt, One Road initiative, covers Balochistan and Sindh provinces and Pakistan-occupied Kashmir. India has formally opposed the CPEC because it runs through PoK.

The activists said the project was causing much damage to the environment and would not benefit the people of the region. Holding placards, they alleged Balochistan’s abundant resources were being diverted for the benefit of Punjab, Pakistan’s most populous province.

A memorandum opposing the CPEC was sent by post to the Chinese embassy before the demonstration. It described Balochistan as an “occupied territory” and said the CPEC is aimed at “bringing demographic changes” in the province by settling 2.5 million people from other parts of Pakistan. It added the activists also feared a “large number of people will be settled from outside” in Sindh, making the Sindhis a minority.

The protest, the first jointly organised by Sindhi and Baloch groups, came days after Modi said during an all-parties meeting that Pakistan would have to answer for “atrocities” in Balochistan and PoK. He later said during his Independence Day speech that people in Balochistan and PoK had thanked him for raising the issue.

Modi’s remarks focussed attention on the movement by Baloch nationalist leaders to highlight issues such as rights violations and enforced disappearances.

The CPEC, described as an economic “game-changer” by Pakistan and China, has strategic implications for India and Afghanistan. Pakistan’s Gwadar port in Balochistan, developed with Chinese assistance, is a key part of the project.

The protesters said Baloch and Sindhis genuinely believe the CPEC will “strengthen and lengthen their subjugation”, which they could not allow. Pakistani security agencies have intensified operations in Balochistan and Sindh to clean up for CPEC and are committing gross rights violations, they alleged.

Baloch activist Hakeem Wadela told ANI: “Pakistan wants to forcefully impose the CPEC on Balochistan. We are being shown as a minority community...whatever we are doing...it’s for our basic rights.”

Noordin Mengal, another Baloch activist, said: “They (China and Pakistan) want to snatch, scare and oppress. They are doing it today as well. Till the time they are getting benefited, they do not care about our lives. They do not care about us, nor do they have any sympathy for us.”

(With inputs from ANI)

 

[alphacentury]

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[sorcerer]

With reference to above post by @alphacentury

All India Radio to start programs in Balochi language


NEW DELHI: All India Radio (AIR) will soon start programs in Balochi language for the people living in Balochistan province of Pakistan and other areas.

According to AIR sources, Prime Minister Narendra Modi-led government has given the approval for the same.

Responding to this latest development, Congress leader Meem Afzal said, “I think it is part of the government’s policy. Let’s see what kind of bulletins they run. I believe there is nothing to objection to it as there are other languages also that are being run in AIR.”

Prime Minister Modi in his independence speech raked up the issue of human rights violations in Balochistan, Gilgit and PoK, inviting a sharp reaction from Islamabad.

"The people of Balochistan, the people of Gilgit, the people of Pak-occupied Kashmir have thanked me in such a manner, from places that I have never been and never had a chance to meet, they have sent wishes to the people of India and thanked us," Modi said. "I am grateful to them."

http://www.newindianexpress.com/nat...alochi-language/2016/08/31/article3605900.ece

 

[ezsasa]

With reference to above post by @alphacentury

All India Radio to start programs in Balochi language


NEW DELHI: All India Radio (AIR) will soon start programs in Balochi language for the people living in Balochistan province of Pakistan and other areas.

According to AIR sources, Prime Minister Narendra Modi-led government has given the approval for the same.

Responding to this latest development, Congress leader Meem Afzal said, “I think it is part of the government’s policy. Let’s see what kind of bulletins they run. I believe there is nothing to objection to it as there are other languages also that are being run in AIR.”

Prime Minister Modi in his independence speech raked up the issue of human rights violations in Balochistan, Gilgit and PoK, inviting a sharp reaction from Islamabad.

"The people of Balochistan, the people of Gilgit, the people of Pak-occupied Kashmir have thanked me in such a manner, from places that I have never been and never had a chance to meet, they have sent wishes to the people of India and thanked us," Modi said. "I am grateful to them."

http://www.newindianexpress.com/nat...alochi-language/2016/08/31/article3605900.ece

While the initiative is good, will this channel reach the other side of pak?

 

[sorcerer]

While the initiative is good, will this channel reach the other side of pak?

Radio .The key word is RADIO..errrr...if its an open frequency...any one can tune in with a receiver set..aint it?

 

[ezsasa]

Radio .The key word is RADIO..errrr...if its an open frequency...any one can tune in with a receiver set..aint it?

Assuming we are still talking about AM/FM Radio, don't think AIR signals signals can go beyond Islamabad, Lahore or Karachi.

Saying this because longest signal I heard was Bangalore FM in chennai during my college days that too only in summer nights(with some degree of clarity).

May be this question should be put to someone from balochistan on some paki forum, whether AIR channels reach pak and that too how far into their interior?