Paris Terror Attack 13/11

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The only difference between terrorist muzzies and a moderate muzzies is that the teorrist muzzie kills you and the moderate muzzie supports the terrorist muzzie killing you. Just see the funerals conducted for Osama, yakub etc.
 

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@Sakal Gharelu Ustad @Mad Indian @saty

Why are you banging head on a brick-wall? This agnostic dude has proven long back that far from being an agnostic, he is a Hindu-basher and Islam apologist, trying to be more acceptable in the garb of being 'Agnostic'. He could be anything by religion, but his agenda in this forum is same as @genius or @rockey 71 , which tells whatever is relevant about him. He would be trying to divert the topic and in the name of introspection, he would claim outlandish theories to be truth to vilify every other religion while simultaneously denying all the evils that permeated (even if for argument's sake I accept that were not present at the time of inception, which I don't accept) Islam. He would mulishly pander that Islam is religion of peace and only 90% of the followers believe in the violent form of it.

So, why bother entertaining him?
 

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And mongols threatened who in 18th century? And no, wahabism or Saudi influence became dominant after the fall of ottomans in 19- 20th century
Half knowledge is dangerous!!

Wahabism is just the continuation of the ideology of Tehmiya. Such ideology was not named before hence we say it Wahabism. as this deals with Takfeer of Tehmiya, when Mongols converted themselves to Muslims to change Islam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takfir

Takfeer is just calling other muslims infidel or Kafir.
 

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Unfortunately the Bay of Pigs proved he did not practice what he preached. And that could be a reason he was gunned down young.
 

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Purpose of the attack?

1) covert ops by Russia pushing France through this to involve in Syria against US proxy?
2) To counter the Germany's decision in favour of refugees?
3) France willing to get rid of US pressure of Not attacking the IS? Now they can.
4) Frence stopping the funding to the proxy in syria, the proxies hit back threatening not to stop the funds?

well gents this attack sure is from ISIS but the weapons are coming courtesy of KGB, here's why...

Roughly 3 weeks ago, an ill-fated Russian aircraft is bombed, 200+ killed and Russia is in deep mourning and few days later, Charlie Hebdo releases an image mocking the Russian dead, more so mocking Putin. Putin is pissed, hell all of Russia is pissed. Knowing Putin and Russia, this is not to go unpunished. Initial plans probably wanted Charlie HQ to be bombed but it serves no purpose but then the plan smoothens out to arming the N number of cells active in Western EU. With Russia dolling out the biggest punishment on ISIS in Syria they have plenty of Intel on ISIS cells in EU including those in Belgium, France & Germany. They get in touch through various other means I.e. low level mafia gun runners, they arrange for around 3-4 duffel bags of weapons and kit suddenly made available for these plans to be carried out. These nut jobs probably got the weapons couple of days prior.

Now, KGB touch is feather lite so no evidence will ever be found off course. Once they have the weapons, the plan needs to be set in motion because the longer they wait, the higher the risk being busted. So a car is rented, a group of rag-tag nut jobs get in, drive to Paris in 3 hrs. and execute the plan. They are rag tag, run off the mil poorly trained terrorists who have seen some action in Syria. They are no way as trained as the ones in Mumbai who had plenty of SSG Navy & ISIS training. These dip shites go in kill a few and blow themselves up.

Pre-attack, everyone was bitching against Russia, but now they want a partnered action towards the whole thing. Secondly, Putin gets the message across, mocking the victims isn't nice now that the French too have victims. Russian bombing campaign is all of sudden the way to go.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/n ... h-cartoons

http://www.ibtimes.com/russian-plane-cr ... st-2172878

If one really understands the utter mockery of the dead in those images that Charlie published, I myself was pissed enough to hope KGB would blow up Charli HQ and I am not even Russian. Those images were mocking the dead not even a week after the incident while the nation mourns. Do you really think Putin, KGB or any 'not to be ****** with Russian' would take this lightly? No way, this is not the way Russia works, thankfully they still live in a world where there are consequences. Also, Charlie basically raised a middle finger to Putin himself when he himself called this blasphemy.

Russian covert involvement shouldn't be a surprise, if anything, with one swell swoop they got everyone else on the table pushing the political process forward. As for the innocents who died, well innocents always die, they are the price you pay for state craft.

Either ways those attacks would have happened at one point, regardless of Russian involvement. Sure, they would be of a much smaller scale but the scale, the weapons, the explosives and the timing suggests KGB just nudged it forward, a few simple encrypted msgs to high ranking Mafia members around Western/Eastern Europe to allocate a couple of bags of ***k shit up to a few low level gun runners frequented by jihadists, gangs, drug dealers etc. who in turn with sudden availability of fresh stock in quantity would automatically forward the duffel bags to the nutjobs.


There is plenty of KGB/FSB presence in all of Western Europe particularly in Belgium, Germany, France & UK.
 

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This is a KGB masterstroke, sure innocents died but innocents always die, but this is the price paid in state craft. This unites everyone from US & Russia, brings them on the same direction and ISIS's days are therefore numbered.
 
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They don't have a positive identification of one terrorist.
How do they know it is ISIS and not a small cell? Or good taliban?Seems like Isis is a convenient label for clueless idiots in power
In Syria forty different groups are labeled Isis many different ethnicities

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In Battlefield 3 (2011) a mission in Paris, where Islamic terrorists attacked the city, took place on November 13.

2015-11-16 16-42-08 Скриншот экрана.png

 

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What is your problem...just what is your problem actually?

Sunni,Shia,Ahmadi,Taliban,ISIS,Let,Tehmiya,Takfir,babar,Sharukh khan............... all are Muslims.And these Muslims believes Arab God,Arab Warlord&Terrorist Manuel.So concentrate on common holy things than non existing conspiracy theories.

Our enemies are 'Arab God,Arab Warlord&Terrorist Manuel'.The E-N-D, no discussion.
My problem is you are forgetting the basic verse of sam daam dhand bhed out of this only bhed is the solution.
 

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well gents this attack sure is from ISIS but the weapons are coming courtesy of KGB, here's why...

Roughly 3 weeks ago, an ill-fated Russian aircraft is bombed, 200+ killed and Russia is in deep mourning and few days later, Charlie Hebdo releases an image mocking the Russian dead.

If one really understands the utter mockery of the dead in those images that Charlie published, I myself was pissed enough to hope KGB would blow up Charli HQ and I am not even Russian. Those images were mocking the dead not even a week after the incident while the nation mourns. Do you really think Putin, KGB or any 'not to be ****** with Russian'

Russian covert involvement shouldn't be a surprise,

Either ways those attacks would have happened at one point, regardless of Russian involvement. .
you just spoke my mind. The french are american allies and weeks ago a russian passenger jet was downed, and reports came IS did it, and Russians know IS is US's ally. It looks like a counter intel op from KGB to take back the revenge.
 

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[emoji38] here 90% Hindus are Atheists.You never see any where in the world,seriously no where in the world atheists are wholeheartedly supporting one religion&culture.Entire Social media dominated by atheist Hindus thrashing& ridiculing muzzies.If any shame left in you please leave Arab barbaric religion.

You don't have any choice....
I can vouch that. Because I'm one of them.

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Got it through fb.............................................How frustrating it must be to be terrorist?

It must be incredibly frustrating as an Islamic terrorist not to have your views and motives taken seriously by the societies you terrorize, even after you have explicitly and repeatedly stated them. Even worse, those on the regressive left, in their endless capacity for masochism and self-loathing, have attempted to shift blame inwardly on themselves, denying the terrorists even the satisfaction of claiming responsibility.

It's like a bad Monty Python sketch:

"We did this because our holy texts exhort us to to do it."

"No you didn't."

"Wait, what? Yes we did..."

"No, this has nothing to do with religion. You guys are just using religion as a front for social and geopolitical reasons."

"WHAT!? Did you even read our official statement? We give explicit Quranic justification. This is jihad, a holy crusade against pagans, blasphemers, and disbelievers."

"No, this is definitely not a Muslim thing. You guys are not true Muslims, and you defame a great religion by saying so."

"Huh!? Who are you to tell us we're not true Muslims!? Islam is literally at the core of everything we do, and we have implemented the truest most literal and honest interpretation of its founding texts. It is our very reason for being."

"Nope. We created you. We installed a social and economic system that alienates and disenfranchises you, and that's why you did this. We're sorry."

"What? Why are you apologizing? We just slaughtered you mercilessly in the streets. We targeted unwitting civilians - disenfranchisement doesn't even enter into it!"

"Listen, it's our fault. We don't blame you for feeling unwelcome and lashing out."

"Seriously, stop taking credit for this! We worked really hard to pull this off, and we're not going to let you take it away from us."

"No, we nourished your extremism. We accept full blame."

"OMG, how many people do we have to kill around here to finally get our message across?"
 

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well gents this attack sure is from ISIS but the weapons are coming courtesy of KGB, here's why...

Roughly 3 weeks ago, an ill-fated Russian aircraft is bombed, 200+ killed and Russia is in deep mourning and few days later, Charlie Hebdo releases an image mocking the Russian dead, more so mocking Putin. Putin is pissed, hell all of Russia is pissed. Knowing Putin and Russia, this is not to go unpunished. Initial plans probably wanted Charlie HQ to be bombed but it serves no purpose but then the plan smoothens out to arming the N number of cells active in Western EU. With Russia dolling out the biggest punishment on ISIS in Syria they have plenty of Intel on ISIS cells in EU including those in Belgium, France & Germany. They get in touch through various other means I.e. low level mafia gun runners, they arrange for around 3-4 duffel bags of weapons and kit suddenly made available for these plans to be carried out. These nut jobs probably got the weapons couple of days prior.

Now, KGB touch is feather lite so no evidence will ever be found off course. Once they have the weapons, the plan needs to be set in motion because the longer they wait, the higher the risk being busted. So a car is rented, a group of rag-tag nut jobs get in, drive to Paris in 3 hrs. and execute the plan. They are rag tag, run off the mil poorly trained terrorists who have seen some action in Syria. They are no way as trained as the ones in Mumbai who had plenty of SSG Navy & ISIS training. These dip shites go in kill a few and blow themselves up.

Pre-attack, everyone was bitching against Russia, but now they want a partnered action towards the whole thing. Secondly, Putin gets the message across, mocking the victims isn't nice now that the French too have victims. Russian bombing campaign is all of sudden the way to go.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/n ... h-cartoons

http://www.ibtimes.com/russian-plane-cr ... st-2172878

If one really understands the utter mockery of the dead in those images that Charlie published, I myself was pissed enough to hope KGB would blow up Charli HQ and I am not even Russian. Those images were mocking the dead not even a week after the incident while the nation mourns. Do you really think Putin, KGB or any 'not to be ****** with Russian' would take this lightly? No way, this is not the way Russia works, thankfully they still live in a world where there are consequences. Also, Charlie basically raised a middle finger to Putin himself when he himself called this blasphemy.

Russian covert involvement shouldn't be a surprise, if anything, with one swell swoop they got everyone else on the table pushing the political process forward. As for the innocents who died, well innocents always die, they are the price you pay for state craft.

Either ways those attacks would have happened at one point, regardless of Russian involvement. Sure, they would be of a much smaller scale but the scale, the weapons, the explosives and the timing suggests KGB just nudged it forward, a few simple encrypted msgs to high ranking Mafia members around Western/Eastern Europe to allocate a couple of bags of ***k shit up to a few low level gun runners frequented by jihadists, gangs, drug dealers etc. who in turn with sudden availability of fresh stock in quantity would automatically forward the duffel bags to the nutjobs.


There is plenty of KGB/FSB presence in all of Western Europe particularly in Belgium, Germany, France & UK.
So, you are telling me Putin is so thin skinned that he got offended by some cartoons in a small French media outlet.
 

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Je suis un mouton...........................

This goes for india too.
 

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So, you are telling me Putin is so thin skinned that he got offended by some cartoons in a small French media outlet.
When Mohammad's cartoon can lead to massive movement. Then Putin can also use this situation (without getting offended) and let us not forget the fallen passenger jet.
 

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Paris attacks: Isis threatens strike on US capital in 'new video' – live

http://www.theguardian.com/world/li...tacks-france-airstrikes-isis-raqqa-syria-live
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Such escalation?!!???!!!!????!!!
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US President Barack Obama is speaking now in Ankara at the G20 summit.

“Tragically, Paris is not alone. We have seen outrageous attacks in Beirut, in Ankara and routinely in Iraq,” he said, calling Islamic State “the face of evil”.


Speakin about the US’ military strategy, he said that “more nations need to step up with the resources this fight demands.”


We’ll have more of his remarks shortly.
 

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Then purpose of Paris attack is? Because, IS has failed to overthrow Assad. Too much money has been spent on them. More over, if Russia pays the IS, then they will speak for Russia.
You are missing the main point. Here it is:

The West is never giving up on its hand-reared prodigal progeny ( the one who goes by different names in different geographies: Taliban, FSA, Daesh, Al-Nusra & blah blah...). No matter what.

The West would always find some moderate terrorists to do its bidding. Unless the moderate ones too get too radicalized for West's comfort. The West drops a few dud bombs on some random civilians & whole cycle repeats itself.

What you need to appreciate is: West's paranoid consistency in identifying its prime enemy (Russia) & going to any extent (even to the point of getting thoroughly Mozzied) in order to isolate & contain the Russian juggernaut.

No substantial ground-breaking transformation is going to occur due to such attacks. The Islamists' nuisance value has still not lost its sheen & is valued by its creators.
 

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We cannot pass judgements on medieval era practices based on todays moral and ethical standards and practices.religions and religuous laws and practices should be judged considering the time period, geography and culture where it emerged.if you look in to hinduism or christanity also there are many unacceptable rules and practices as per todays standards..those practices were according to ancient morality..today we ignore those parts or give it a better interpretation to give it a face lift or make up to present it to today's generation.In a purely accadamic manner, in an accadamic discuession those interpretations can be questioned but looking from another angle those interpretations are essential lies, with out those make up interpretations world will be stuck on ancient moralities and practices which is inferior and unacceptable to moden world.




Only a fraction..a tiny fraction of muslims are doing this religuous terrorism based on their interpretation of koran.Others..the vast majority of them are teaching and practicing different interpretations of koran which may be guilty of orthodoxy, mideval mindset, intolerence etc but not terrorism.




I have never shown any hypocrisy what so ever..its just your enthusiasm and eagerness to find fault with me is what causing the bad judgement.
In short you agree that Q'uran may be "interpreted" in the way people may desire, this provision can be used against the non-believers when these Muslims get in position of power, like it has happened in Muslim dominated regions?


ISIS, Made in America and Israel - David Icke
Since you are trying to prove a point using youtube videos what are your views on "Innocence of Muslims"?

This forum is not a Zombie-dominated one, please post wisely.
 

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