Paris Terror Attack 13/11

[Kshatriya87]

Again, tolerating intolerance is stupidity. There is nothing noble about stupidity.

Even Gita is about righteous war, and not righteous get screwed in the ass

Nope it's not. But stupidity prevails in these insects. And Americans take advantage of it.

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[Mad Indian]

Now that's the right question. How do we differentiate? This makes it clear that there are at least some who deserve mercy.

Nope they don't. If these supposedly moderate scumbags spent half their energy putting their house on order instead of being snakes (apologetics), we wouldn't be having this conversation

 

[Kshatriya87]

Keeping One kalam vs getting rid of 1000s of Yakubs, I will take getting rid of 1000s of yakubs any day.

And good try, you still dint address what I meant

What you meant is you can't differentiate between them. Right?

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[Kshatriya87]

Nope they don't. If these supposedly moderate scumbags spent half their energy putting their house on order instead of being snakes (apologetics), we wouldn't be having this conversation

That's why in one of my previous posts I've said, deport all extremists and moderates. Others are fine. Though I wouldn't want them around me too.

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[Mad Indian]

What you meant is you can't differentiate between them. Right?

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I am saying the number is too low to care/give a damn about.

To quote Mahabharata- " to save a family, sacrifice a guy, to save a village- sacrifice a family, to save a country sacrifice a village".

 

[Kshatriya87]

I am saying the number is too low to care/give a damn about.

To quote Mahabharata- " to save a family, sacrifice a guy, to save a village- sacrifice a family, to save a country sacrifice a village".

So you mean they are just expendables?

 

[sorcerer]

Paris attacks: route across Europe of passport linked to suicide bomber emerges – live updates

The use of suicide vests in the Paris attacks marks a worrying change of tactics by Islamic State (IS) militants – and means that the munitions specialist who made them could still be at large in France or Europe.

A former French intelligence chief told Agence France-Press:

Suicide vests require a munitions specialist. To make a reliable and effective explosive is not something anyone can do.

A munitions specialist is someone who is used to handling explosives, who knows how to make them, to arrange them in a way that the belt or vest is not so unwieldy that the person can’t move. And it must also not blow up by accident.

French authorities say the vests appeared to have been made with TATP, or acetone peroxyde, that is easy for amateurs to make at home but is highly unstable.

The former intelligence chief added:


They didn’t bring these vests from Syria: the more you shake these things, the more you multiply the risks. It’s very likely he is here, in France or Europe, one or several guys who have come back from jihadist areas and who learned over there.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/li...er-named-investigation-continues-live-updates

Terrorists in FRANCE - Home Grown and Brewd by Apologists in FRANCE and elsewhere!!!!

 

[jackprince]

So you mean they are just expendables?

In the larger scheme of things where survival of civilization matters, there culling a infected herd of cattle is only logical. The loss of few good and healthy ones, when regrettable, is negligible considering the survival of the covilisation. The wahabi filth has infiltrated and infested too deep and the other si called moderates' inaction to cure the infestation only have made the disease more virulant. Hence, those few so called liberals' usefulness, however big on individual scale may be, is insignificant in the bigger picture and very much expendable. When it comes to my own people's survival and a few good people of my rotten enemy's survival, I wont even think twice before choosing mine.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

They are saying the operation was planned in Belgium?
A country between France and Germany. Germans looking
Like idiots for let this refugee fiasco poison many other European
Nations .

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

They are saying the operation was planned in Belgium?
A country between France and Germany. Germans looking
Like idiots for let this refugee fiasco poison many other European
Nations .

Belgium is a hotbed for fundamentalists. Walk around the train station in Brussel's to know what I mean.

 

[sorcerer]

They are saying the operation was planned in Belgium?
A country between France and Germany. Germans looking
Like idiots for let this refugee fiasco poison many other European
Nations .

Seems like the European Union is now a HOUSE DIVIDED!!! or will soon be as more skeletons tumble out!!

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Belgium is a hotbed for fundamentalists. Walk around the train station in Brussel's to know what I mean.

Many European countries use to be major tourist attractions
Sweden,Denmark etc... now they are no longer on the list. In
10 years a new unrecognizable Europe will emerge. Appeasement
Will only delay the clash of civilizations bound to come.

 

[Sakal Gharelu Ustad]

Many European countries use to be major tourist attractions
Sweden,Denmark etc... now they are no longer on the list. In
10 years a new unrecognizable Europe emerge. Appeasement
Will only delay the clash of civilizations bound to come.

I could not believe the stupidity of importing 3-4million refugees by Germany alone i.e. more than 5% of your population. Add to it the fact that all those coming are mostly young men without families. So, either they would try and get white women or remain sexually frustrated. That is indeed a bad mix.

And sadly, most of the people I hang out with support taking in refugees. If the intellectuals here cannot be realistic, Europe is doomed.

 

[Kshatriya87]

In the larger scheme of things where survival of civilization matters, there culling a infected herd of cattle is only logical. The loss of few good and healthy ones, when regrettable, is negligible considering the survival of the covilisation. The wahabi filth has infiltrated and infested too deep and the other si called moderates' inaction to cure the infestation only have made the disease more virulant. Hence, those few so called liberals' usefulness, however big on individual scale may be, is insignificant in the bigger picture and very much expendable. When it comes to my own people's survival and a few good people of my rotten enemy's survival, I wont even think twice before choosing mine.

Couldn't have explained better. I concur.

@Mad Indian Had a nice debate. Thanks.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

I could not believe the stupidity of importing 3-4million refugees by Germany alone i.e. more than 5% of your population. Add to it the fact that all those coming are mostly young men without families. So, either they would try and get white women or remain sexually frustrated. That is indeed a bad mix.

And sadly, most of the people I hang out with support taking in refugees. If the intellectuals here cannot be realistic, Europe is doomed.

Many Europeans are arrogant thinking their culture will make
The refugees better more civilised people and they will integrate
And everything will be lovely. This is the bullshit they are trying
To convince themselves and others.

 

[sorcerer]

13/11 Paris Massacre: Pour Quel Profit?

Yesterday night things changed in an instant in Paris. The available evidence suggest that the assaults were carried out by a professional killer group who used live bombs among other weapons. Today’s post by Pepe Escobar on his Facebook page sheds some light on symbolism and timimg of the massacre:


Scouring a ton of reports, I found a Danish citizen describing one of the attackers to a Paris café; ultra-pro, black-clad head to toe, AK-47, very well trained. These are not your usual al-Zawahiri underwear bombers; these are precision killers. This one left the scene undisturbed, and contrary to French police, may not have been captured. He wore no suicide vest.

French intel swears they are monitoring at least 200 nationals who came back from “Syraq”. Talk about a lousy job. Paris is hyper-policed. The mind boggles thinking of at least 8 jihadis promenading at will on a Friday night dressed as pro killers.


They picked a mix of heavily symbolic venues. You have a France-German match witnessed by the President in a stadium where all barriers – ethnic, religious – dissolve, a true symbol of multiculturalism. You have a gig by an American band in a concert hall filled with young people. You have your average, cool, neighborhood cafés in the 10eme and 11eme, young, hip, secular, bobo Paris hoods.


This points to a calibrated conceptual spectrum – carefully mapped out by French insiders; perhaps those “Syraq” returnees. This also points to a monumental fail by French intel and the Ministry of Interior.


Timing: crucial. Just as the US/Brits announce they “may” have evaporated with Jihad John. And a few hours before the Vienna talks are supposed to come up with an official Top Ten terrorist list in Syria.



As always, the honest response to the question cui bono might be the last (and perhaps major) victim of the 13/11 tragedy in Paris.

Several strong voices in favor of internal false flag version have already appeared, while the weak French government and secret services totally relying on ‘American partners’ are hardly possessing enough resources to orchestrate the drama of such scale.

The underline reading of the hot-caked Stratfor report on the Paris attacks (certainly presuming undoubtful and entire Islamic State involment) suggests that the American neocons want to see a bigger French boot on the ground in Syraq. (More elaboration on NATO’s mobilization as a result of 13/11 is done by Patrick Henningsen from 21st Century Wire .) They were also not satisfied by the French resilence to fully tumble into the pan-European refugee turmoil and general public indifference to anti-Islamic provocateurs from Charlie Hebdo. The only side effect bothering Stratfor analysts is the apparent rise of Marine Le Pen which, according to them, should be nipped by setting Nikolas Sarkozy at the same electoral field.

As a matter of fact, the bloody night in Paris was launched to definitely bury the European project as it was originally seen in Paris and Berlin – economically powerful and politically sovereign concert of nations. The symbolism of attacks’ initiation near Stad du France during the France-Germany friendly match is obvious. We will not be surprised if the French investigation of the attack would discover a clear German trace of the perpetrators. The rules of the genre demand such storyline.

Very few in Europe are still taking seriously the immutable fact that the European Union allied with the Eurasian resourse base is even a bigger nightmare for the Wall Street owners than the established Russia-China alliance (please read more on the issue in our yesterday’s update Grandmaster Putin’s Trap-2). The incumbent Wall Street-controlled EU bureaucracy is rapidly loosing not only public support in the European countries (it is mauvais ton in Brussels to raise this question for long already), but of the local business elites and other power groups. Replacement of the old EU bureacracy by new representatives who would take the way of sovereignization of Europe was at the public request in the continent and seriously challenged the transatlantic partnership (didn’t you forget French trade minister Matthias Fekl threat to quit TTP talks last month?). Reinforcing the latter was the urgent task of the Wall Street political stooges on both sides of the ocean. Once the Ukrainian project factually failed and due to the notable shift in French approach towards the European Eastern policy, a foundation of the new transatlantic concensus was desperately needed. Black banner nearby Eiffel was virtually hoisted on the screens to disguide people from much more acute issues: what is the real agenda behind destabilization of the Middle East and where do the European interests rest in this regard?

So cui bono from this attack? Pour quel profit, France?


The propaganda cartoon, distributed on Saturday by the USA Today confirms the conclusions of this commentary.
http://orientalreview.org/2015/11/14/1311-paris-massacre-pour-quel-profit/

 

[LETHALFORCE]

There maybe a new threat they are saying homegrown terrorists are collaborating with refugees . Many returning fighters from
Syria want to bring the battle to Europe.

 

[sorcerer]

ISIS is Behind the Paris Attacks, But Who is Behind ISIS?

With the so-called “Islamic State” (ISIS) emerging as being behind the attack, the question that remains is, who is behind ISIS itself? While the West has attempted to maintain the terrorist organization possesses almost mythological abilities, capable of sustaining combat operations against Syria, Iraq, Lebanon’s Hezbollah, support from Iran, and now the Russian military – all while carrying out large-scale, high-profile terrorist attacks across the globe – it is clear that ISIS is the recipient of immense multinational state-sponsorship.

The rise of ISIS was revealed as early as 2007 in interviews conducted by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh in his 9-page report “The Redirection.” The interviews revealed a plan to destabilize and overthrow the government of Syria through the use of sectarian extremists – more specifically, Al Qaeda – with arms and funds laundered through America’s oldest and stanchest regional ally, Saudi Arabia.

A more recent Department of Intelligence Agency (DIA) report drafted in 2012 (.pdf) admitted:

If the situation unravels there is the possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist principality in eastern Syria (Hasaka and Der Zor), and this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime, which is considered the strategic depth of the Shia expansion (Iraq and Iran).

The DIA report enumerates precisely who these “supporting powers” are:

The West, Gulf countries, and Turkey support the opposition; while Russia, China, and Iran support the regime.

And to this day, by simply looking at any number of maps detailing territory held by various factions amid the Syrian conflict, it is clear that ISIS is not a “state” of any kind, but an ongoing invasion emanating from NATO-member Turkey’s territory, with its primary supply corridor crossing the Turkish-Syrian borderbetween the Syrian town of Ad Dana and the western bank of the Euphrates River, a supply corridor now increasingly shrinking.


Image: ISIS-held territory seen in dark grey forms a corridor directly up to the Syrian-Turkish border – or more accurately, begins at the Turkish-Syrian border. In recent days, this corridor has faced being completely cut off by joint Syrian-Russian gains in and around Aleppo and toward the western bank of the Euphrates River. East of the Euphrates is already held by Kurds and Syrian forces. NATO is clearly providing ISIS’ primary support, and yet ISIS is alleged to have been behind an attack on a NATO member.


In fact, the desperation exhibited by the West and its efforts to oust the Syrian government and salvage its proxy force now being decimated by joint Syrian-Russian military operations, is directly proportional to the diminishing size and stability of this corridor.


Just last week, Syrian forces reestablished firm control over the Kweyris military airport, which was under siege for years. The airport is just 20 miles from the Euphrates, and, as Syrian forces backed by Russian airpower work their way up toward the Turkish border along the Syrian coast, constitutes a unified front that will essentially cut off ISIS deeper inside Syria for good.

Should ISIS’ supply lines be cut in the north, the organization’s otherwise inexplicable fighting capacity will atrophy. The window for the West’s “regime change” opportunity is quickly closing, and perhaps in a last ditch effort, France has jammed the spilled blood and broken bodies of its own citizens beneath the window to prevent it from closing for good.

The reality is that France knew the “Charlie Hebo” attackers, they knew beforehand those involved in the most recent Paris attack, and they likely know of more waiting for their own opportunity to strike. With this knowledge, they stood by and did nothing. What’s more, it appears that instead of keeping France safe, the French government has chosen to use this knowledge as a weapon in and of itself against the perception of its own people, to advance its geopolitical agenda abroad.

If the people of France want to strike hard at those responsible for repeated terrorist attacks within their borders, they can start with those who knew of the attacks and did nothing to stop them, who are also, coincidentally, the same people who helped give rise to ISIS and help perpetuate it to this very day.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-pa...al-story-the-matrix-extends-its-reach/5489014

 

[LETHALFORCE]

After seeing all these different news reports I don't think they have a clue who did this. They are just saying everything is isis
So it looks the leadership has an idea? yesterday they said Syria passports now they are saying turkish passports. The government's are clueless. Most likely french born jihad is
Returning from Syria. But don't want to scare the shit out of the public.

 

[DingDong]

So does that mean Kalam is a mosquito too? Should Kalam have been hanged or deported for being a Muslim too?

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If that gets us rid of Jihadis, then why not? I will any day select this option if it is on offer.

Nope it's not. But stupidity prevails in these insects. And Americans take advantage of it.

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Americans take advantage of others' weaknesses, and their public/politicians don't ride the moral high horse. For them anything which serves their best interest is good, and everything else is "bad". Simple rules, good execution.

Our Survival is our natural right, our enemies' survival is not our concern, and we must take full liberty in selecting and using the right tools. If it means denying others the same right then so be it.

For record, I do not empathize even a bit with the French government and it's people. France is part of the block which played a role in nurturing these violent groups. Such medieval tactics do not work in 21st century, faster they realize, better for them. India must try to take advantage of such attacks to put pressure on our enemies and if situation permits, get rid of them.