Para-SF hits another NSCN-K camp inside Myanmar

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Nagaland Post, The Eastern Mirror, Morung Express are circulating this article, mentioning no Army rather Assam rifle PRO , No statement is published on Army portal or National media either ..

But the Headline mentioning Army clearly ..
 

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Here what happened, An Aggressive long range patrol of 21st Special force were on recon mission made contact with a large NSCN K camp where they meet with small skirmish and destroyed an observation tower of terrorist while making a retreat to get more men and firepower to strike back. ( 30men strong platoon was well and healthy seen within Indian borders while making back )

Knowing this the terrorist panicked and contacted their contacts within local media and corporate national media ( Hindustan times ) to spread the word that 'Indian Army has again strike into burma' and added 'NSCN k killed some of the jawans' this made a huge hue and cry and was caught my national media.

This development took away the element of surprise and the planned attack by special forces was stopped at its tracks, the very next morning the NSCN K cadits were mobilized and started firing at Assam rifle`s positions to counter away any incoming attack by SF.

In the whole saga Media was effectively used by terrorist not only to save their camp but gave them time to fully evacuated their camp and relocate ..
 

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This is a terror camp take out inside our borders, This is not related to the one happened outside of our borders, The image was taken before 15 august, Hinting that Army is ruthlessly searching for terrorists ..

Is this the real image of latest op?
 

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Those NSCN ****s can sleep another day as they are successful in running away for another day, We discovered their hideout and they made such hue cry on media so everyone would know that India is making cross border raids, Next time their will be 155mm shells and no one will return back for extra troop strength ..
 

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Those NSCN ****s can sleep another day as they are successful in running away for another day, We discovered their hideout and they made such hue cry on media so everyone would know that India is making cross border raids, Next time their will be 155mm shells and no one will return back for extra troop strength ..
I think there is a dire need to coordinate with Myanmar on cross border ops where we should use artillery to destroy the NSCN camps and send these idiots manning them to oblivion.

We have drones as observation posts to direct accurate artillery fire on these camps. We need to make use of the technology. Why we aren't doing this is a mystery.
 

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So everything happened well within Indian territory and the initial news report is mere speculation.
 

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So everything happened well within Indian territory and the initial news report is mere speculation.
Officially yes. Even the last time when the Myanmar camp was hit, army's official statement was that the operation was carried out on the Indo-Myanmar border. Ajit Doval had to fly out to Rangoon for a spot of dialogue with the junta and assuage any ruffled feathers.

Army and GoI may not see any reason to unnecessarily rile up the Myanmar leadership by disclosing the any uncomfortable details. Of course, as you pointed out, there may not have been any cross-border operation at all and this is mere media speculation. That's all they do and it's best to let them stew in it.

I personally believe (have no basis to claim so except instinct) that the army and GoI are being quite frugal with details, there may have been more to it than a simple intercept. But those who know, are not talking and those who do not are speculating.
 

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Officially yes. Even the last time when the Myanmar camp was hit, army's official statement was that the operation was carried out on the Indo-Myanmar border. Ajit Doval had to fly out to Rangoon for a spot of dialogue with the junta and assuage any ruffled feathers.

Army and GoI may not see any reason to unnecessarily rile up the Myanmar leadership by disclosing the any uncomfortable details. Of course, as you pointed out, there may not have been any cross-border operation at all and this is mere media speculation. That's all they do and it's best to let them stew in it.

I personally believe (have no basis to claim so except instinct) that the army and GoI are being quite frugal with details, there may have been more to it than a simple intercept. But those who know, are not talking and those who do not are speculating.
I was referring to the newspaper scan by @Kunal Biswas. Said that, you are correct, there is the official version and there is something that happens that we don't see. Even if any operation is carried out inside Myanmar, chest thumping on our part will only make the government of Myanmar uncomfortable. So, I suppose it should be hush-hush. Ultimately, we won't know for sure what happened.
 

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Here what happened, An Aggressive long range patrol of 21st Special force were on recon mission made contact with a large NSCN K camp where they meet with small skirmish and destroyed an observation tower of terrorist while making a retreat to get more men and firepower to strike back. (30men strong platoon was well and healthy seen within Indian borders while making back)
So this operation WAS across the border in Myanmar? I mean the 21st Special force were in Myanmar when they came upon a NSCN-K camp?
 

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Its nothing unnatural back there, Myanmar authorities are well informed before such patrols ..
 

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Sushma Swaraj was in Myanmar today, so we can assume open points if any are discussed.

Last time doval had gone.

This time foreign minister's visit was announced prior to the op.
 

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Here what happened, An Aggressive long range patrol of 21st Special force were on recon mission made contact with a large NSCN K camp where they meet with small skirmish and destroyed an observation tower of terrorist while making a retreat to get more men and firepower to strike back. ( 30men strong platoon was well and healthy seen within Indian borders while making back )

Knowing this the terrorist panicked and contacted their contacts within local media and corporate national media ( Hindustan times ) to spread the word that 'Indian Army has again strike into burma' and added 'NSCN k killed some of the jawans' this made a huge hue and cry and was caught my national media.

This development took away the element of surprise and the planned attack by special forces was stopped at its tracks, the very next morning the NSCN K cadits were mobilized and started firing at Assam rifle`s positions to counter away any incoming attack by SF.

In the whole saga Media was effectively used by terrorist not only to save their camp but gave them time to fully evacuated their camp and relocate ..
What was the need of retreating back for more firepower they may have call aid. Morever One Para SF squad is sufficent to kill more than dozen of these pigs.
I think there is a dire need to coordinate with Myanmar on cross border ops where we should use artillery to destroy the NSCN camps and send these idiots manning them to oblivion.

We have drones as observation posts to direct accurate artillery fire on these camps. We need to make use of the technology. Why we aren't doing this is a mystery.
Maybe patrols were not euipped with drones that time they usually do not carry thes in forest area. Even for artillary fire will take time to set up
 

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It is evident they didn't had necessary air-support for evacuation, They returned back on foot not via air, If they would have, They would use air-support to called for reinforcement, It was also mentioned that this recon party met with enemy fire, A recon party without reinforcement is not meant to stand and fight when spotted by enemy and taking fire ..

Besides, Don`t underestimate tribal NAGAs armed with modern wepon and training, They might not gud as ours but that is their territory and they have number advantage, NAGAs also form majority of our 21st SF unit..

What was the need of retreating back for more firepower they may have call aid. Morever One Para SF squad is sufficent to kill more than dozen of these pigs.
 

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May be, I am not sure as never know abt such things ..

But surly mortars can do some serious damage ..

Can it be possible to hit that huts buy predator drone?..........looks like they are in open but not too open...
 

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May be, I am not sure as never know abt such things ..

But surly mortars can do some serious damage ..
Mortars need elevation right?..because the trees looks very tall...only 81mm or 120mm can hit them hard
 

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Here is another report from May 30th, 2016 which people may have overlooked. Handling over 18 militants to Myanmar Authorities is a move i question.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...econd-time-in-a-year/articleshow/52495649.cms

Indian troops are said to have entered Myanmar territory for the second time in less than a year
"The AR (Assam Rifles) has informed us that besides killing eight, they have picked up 18 militants who were later handed over to the Myanmar authorities,We are still collecting the details and cannot confirm the number of deaths. These camps where the action took place are located inside Myanmar beyond the free zone of 16 kilometer,"
 
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