If Pakistan is a failed state, then the rest of the humanity is also failed
Sorry, I haven't introduced myself yet. I am here just to learn and not to discuss. I regularly visit all the political forum and found this on a Pakistani forum (think tank section). Have your daily dose of humor.
I am not sure, whether link to another forum is allowed or not, and hence I am not adding the link.
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Who we are, where we from, what is our purpose.
These questions have been asked many times but unfortunately, most of our historian, educationalist, religious sections of society, liberals, right/left wing, almost every section of society, has lost the plot. No one has ever bothered to look deep in our history, even before the advent of Islam.
They way I understand human history is as follows:
We being Muslims firmly believe in Allah and his messengers. From Adam (As) to present humanity, there is continuous evolution of human civilization. HOWEVER, there is one big event which shapes the humans as we know today. And that is the Tofan-e-Noh (AS) or tsunami of Noah (AS). Hence, from religious point of view and belief, human history is divided in two phases. Pre Noh (AS) and post Noh (AS). Only Allah knows what was there in pre Noh (AS) era but what happened afterwards, is a interesting riddle.
So who was on board the Ark of Noh (AS). We don't know but we can safely say that their number was 80. They were muslims. We can also say that they must have belonged to every race (black/yellow/caucisian/oriental etc), otherwise these races wouldn't have lasted after the tsunami as Allah perished everything. By going logic they , collectively, initially, must have settle on this planet, somewhere and then dispersed later on.
And that is where it gets really interesting.
I have heard Zaid Hamid said that Pakistan is Allah's secret. I would agree with him but I doubt he knows what really he means by that. General Gul described Pakistan as a "phenomena", an unfinished business. Again I would agree with him but as I said, in my humble opinion, there are lot deeper mechanics that describe us as Pakistanis and our country.
Archaeologist and historians, all agree, through their studies, which include carbon dating, that there are three distinct civilizations which make the humanity as we know today. Egyptian, Babylon (Iraq) and our very own, Indus. They haven't found other ancient civilizations which are older than these three and I doubt they ever will. Why? Because what was before, perished by Allah through the tsunami of Noh (AS). If we have any doubt, we just need to look at what is happening in Japan as I write this post. Towns/cities are perished as if they never existed. One can only imagine what it would be like when whole world was engulfed by oceans. We can safely say that these three civilizations/states were post Noah (AS).
Also, there is one very interesting fact here. Noad (AS) build the ark on a "DESERT", for which he was mocked by his people. It was not a cruiser that we build today, which could have gone on a voyage while earth was under water. Highly likely, it could have drifted around same land where the Noh (AS) was from. Once the water receded, those 80 may have rebuilt the humanity from more or less the same place where they were from, originally.
Having said that, in any eventuality, by going logic, out of the three civilizations/states (Egypt, Babylon and Indus), there got to one of them where it all began. So who sits on top of the time line. Now I am not saying this, but this has been proven but archaeologist by using scientific methods that our very own Indus was the oldest and biggest of the rest two.
I have no doubt in my mind, that our country, which we now call Pakistan, its building block was laid by those elite 80, those Muslims, who believed in Noh (AS). It is also highly likely, that Noh (AS) was infact could have been an ancient Pakistani building his ark in the desert of Sindh, Allah knows best. Those prophets, who came before Ibraheem (AS), most of them could have been ancient Pakistanis. Even today, Gujrat in Panjab is known for its ancient graves, which are huge, suggesting that people who are buried, were massive. Historians are "confused" about Indus beliefs, and even the rats on our east have failed miserably in labelling them as ancient hindus, no one has been able to tell for sure about the religion of Indus people. Why they are confused? Because they are trying to find some deities/temples in Indus valley, along the same line as Egypt. If we, the Pakistanis are to perish today, god forbid, people thousands years down the line, would they be able to find what religion we belong to? There are no deities here. Pakistan, as I mentioned, was created by Muslims. As the time passed by, it started to expand, and at its peak, from western/northern present day india to Persia, Afghanistan all the way upto Turkmenistan. Although the founding fathers were muslims, but as the country became stronger, with power, there is a strong possibility the people who came later, got corrupted. Hence my theory about nation of Aad being the ancient Pakistanis. Aad where the first people to indulge in shrik after Noh (AS), so in essence, were from the people of Noh (AS), and even at their lowest , believed in Allah but started to indulge in shrik.
When we look at the people of our country, why we find so much diversity in our appearance and behaviour? Those theories of Aryan invasion have long been discarded, and even though , turks and arabs have conqured these lands, their mingling if any , is insignificant and diluted with the passage of time. From white (north) to black (makrani down the costal line) we consist of all races. Only exception is the oriental features. But even that can be traced in the hazaras of Baluchistan and northern Afghanistan. Remember, Afghanistan was infact part of ancient greater Pakistan.
So if our country is the first state in modern human history, where arabs, jews, European came from? specially when nothing was left on earth apart from those 80. It is only logical to believe, that all these people, have actually came from the Indus. There are some people who believe that monolithism was introduced to Ibraheem (AS) by the tribes of Indus who left their homelands and moved to Babylon. Babylon, in all probability, could have, should have, created by people from Indus. With regards to Egypt, I have read somewhere that , northern kingdom, if I am not mistaken was build by an Indus tribe known as Minas.
Bottom line is, Pakistan is the starting point of the humanity as we know today. Not middle east, not the sacred lands of Jerusalem . So if "THEY" say that Pakistan is the failed state, then "THEY" should know the rest of humanity is FAILED as well.
Coming to the present day Pakistan and what lies in future, only Allah knows the future but we can only guess from the prophecies of our beloved prophet Mohammad (SAW). The mention of Gazwa-e-hind, is very very important factor who truly defines who we are. And within that prophecy, the mentioning of the fact that same people who will conquer india will head east towards isreal to find Eesa (AS). For me, personally, that is very important. Not just because the same people who will conquer india will fight dajjal along side Eesa (AS) but taking thing further, if they will be with Hazart Eesa (AS) what will be stopping them not to be with him, when yajooj majooj are relased? Why I am saying this? Because when they say history repeat itself, there is some weight to it. Everything revolves around Allah, things goes in circle. When I posted my theory about Zulqurnain being a ancient Pakistani, I was mocked by some members here. Here is why I believe Zulqurnain was an ancient Paksitani, because the people and their leader, who enslaved yajooj/majooj behind the wall, that is my believe, Allah will use them again to stand against this evil which will be unleash after Dajjal is slaughtered.
On 27 Ramadan 1366, we didn't get independence from brits. We "reclaimed" our lands, in the name of Allah. We cannot claim "independence" from no human race, we are by default a free nation, the first state on this god planet. And like every state/nation we have been through ups and downs. Our founding fathers, I believe were those first 80, the muslims, who were onboard the Ark of Noh (AS).
We must understand our second to none history, we must bring the way of Allah to these lands of ours, not for our sake, but for the sake humanity, for the glory of our people, our country and most importantly, for the glory of Allah.
Sorry, I haven't introduced myself yet. I am here just to learn and not to discuss. I regularly visit all the political forum and found this on a Pakistani forum (think tank section). Have your daily dose of humor.
I am not sure, whether link to another forum is allowed or not, and hence I am not adding the link.
======== Original article begins ===================
Who we are, where we from, what is our purpose.
These questions have been asked many times but unfortunately, most of our historian, educationalist, religious sections of society, liberals, right/left wing, almost every section of society, has lost the plot. No one has ever bothered to look deep in our history, even before the advent of Islam.
They way I understand human history is as follows:
We being Muslims firmly believe in Allah and his messengers. From Adam (As) to present humanity, there is continuous evolution of human civilization. HOWEVER, there is one big event which shapes the humans as we know today. And that is the Tofan-e-Noh (AS) or tsunami of Noah (AS). Hence, from religious point of view and belief, human history is divided in two phases. Pre Noh (AS) and post Noh (AS). Only Allah knows what was there in pre Noh (AS) era but what happened afterwards, is a interesting riddle.
So who was on board the Ark of Noh (AS). We don't know but we can safely say that their number was 80. They were muslims. We can also say that they must have belonged to every race (black/yellow/caucisian/oriental etc), otherwise these races wouldn't have lasted after the tsunami as Allah perished everything. By going logic they , collectively, initially, must have settle on this planet, somewhere and then dispersed later on.
And that is where it gets really interesting.
I have heard Zaid Hamid said that Pakistan is Allah's secret. I would agree with him but I doubt he knows what really he means by that. General Gul described Pakistan as a "phenomena", an unfinished business. Again I would agree with him but as I said, in my humble opinion, there are lot deeper mechanics that describe us as Pakistanis and our country.
Archaeologist and historians, all agree, through their studies, which include carbon dating, that there are three distinct civilizations which make the humanity as we know today. Egyptian, Babylon (Iraq) and our very own, Indus. They haven't found other ancient civilizations which are older than these three and I doubt they ever will. Why? Because what was before, perished by Allah through the tsunami of Noh (AS). If we have any doubt, we just need to look at what is happening in Japan as I write this post. Towns/cities are perished as if they never existed. One can only imagine what it would be like when whole world was engulfed by oceans. We can safely say that these three civilizations/states were post Noah (AS).
Also, there is one very interesting fact here. Noad (AS) build the ark on a "DESERT", for which he was mocked by his people. It was not a cruiser that we build today, which could have gone on a voyage while earth was under water. Highly likely, it could have drifted around same land where the Noh (AS) was from. Once the water receded, those 80 may have rebuilt the humanity from more or less the same place where they were from, originally.
Having said that, in any eventuality, by going logic, out of the three civilizations/states (Egypt, Babylon and Indus), there got to one of them where it all began. So who sits on top of the time line. Now I am not saying this, but this has been proven but archaeologist by using scientific methods that our very own Indus was the oldest and biggest of the rest two.
I have no doubt in my mind, that our country, which we now call Pakistan, its building block was laid by those elite 80, those Muslims, who believed in Noh (AS). It is also highly likely, that Noh (AS) was infact could have been an ancient Pakistani building his ark in the desert of Sindh, Allah knows best. Those prophets, who came before Ibraheem (AS), most of them could have been ancient Pakistanis. Even today, Gujrat in Panjab is known for its ancient graves, which are huge, suggesting that people who are buried, were massive. Historians are "confused" about Indus beliefs, and even the rats on our east have failed miserably in labelling them as ancient hindus, no one has been able to tell for sure about the religion of Indus people. Why they are confused? Because they are trying to find some deities/temples in Indus valley, along the same line as Egypt. If we, the Pakistanis are to perish today, god forbid, people thousands years down the line, would they be able to find what religion we belong to? There are no deities here. Pakistan, as I mentioned, was created by Muslims. As the time passed by, it started to expand, and at its peak, from western/northern present day india to Persia, Afghanistan all the way upto Turkmenistan. Although the founding fathers were muslims, but as the country became stronger, with power, there is a strong possibility the people who came later, got corrupted. Hence my theory about nation of Aad being the ancient Pakistanis. Aad where the first people to indulge in shrik after Noh (AS), so in essence, were from the people of Noh (AS), and even at their lowest , believed in Allah but started to indulge in shrik.
When we look at the people of our country, why we find so much diversity in our appearance and behaviour? Those theories of Aryan invasion have long been discarded, and even though , turks and arabs have conqured these lands, their mingling if any , is insignificant and diluted with the passage of time. From white (north) to black (makrani down the costal line) we consist of all races. Only exception is the oriental features. But even that can be traced in the hazaras of Baluchistan and northern Afghanistan. Remember, Afghanistan was infact part of ancient greater Pakistan.
So if our country is the first state in modern human history, where arabs, jews, European came from? specially when nothing was left on earth apart from those 80. It is only logical to believe, that all these people, have actually came from the Indus. There are some people who believe that monolithism was introduced to Ibraheem (AS) by the tribes of Indus who left their homelands and moved to Babylon. Babylon, in all probability, could have, should have, created by people from Indus. With regards to Egypt, I have read somewhere that , northern kingdom, if I am not mistaken was build by an Indus tribe known as Minas.
Bottom line is, Pakistan is the starting point of the humanity as we know today. Not middle east, not the sacred lands of Jerusalem . So if "THEY" say that Pakistan is the failed state, then "THEY" should know the rest of humanity is FAILED as well.
Coming to the present day Pakistan and what lies in future, only Allah knows the future but we can only guess from the prophecies of our beloved prophet Mohammad (SAW). The mention of Gazwa-e-hind, is very very important factor who truly defines who we are. And within that prophecy, the mentioning of the fact that same people who will conquer india will head east towards isreal to find Eesa (AS). For me, personally, that is very important. Not just because the same people who will conquer india will fight dajjal along side Eesa (AS) but taking thing further, if they will be with Hazart Eesa (AS) what will be stopping them not to be with him, when yajooj majooj are relased? Why I am saying this? Because when they say history repeat itself, there is some weight to it. Everything revolves around Allah, things goes in circle. When I posted my theory about Zulqurnain being a ancient Pakistani, I was mocked by some members here. Here is why I believe Zulqurnain was an ancient Paksitani, because the people and their leader, who enslaved yajooj/majooj behind the wall, that is my believe, Allah will use them again to stand against this evil which will be unleash after Dajjal is slaughtered.
On 27 Ramadan 1366, we didn't get independence from brits. We "reclaimed" our lands, in the name of Allah. We cannot claim "independence" from no human race, we are by default a free nation, the first state on this god planet. And like every state/nation we have been through ups and downs. Our founding fathers, I believe were those first 80, the muslims, who were onboard the Ark of Noh (AS).
We must understand our second to none history, we must bring the way of Allah to these lands of ours, not for our sake, but for the sake humanity, for the glory of our people, our country and most importantly, for the glory of Allah.