Pakistani terrorists attacked Army Camp in J&K's Uri

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Now Shut it, no need to put some offtopic boring 10000000 word post and spam with unrelated stuff. Nobody interested in your personal boring chatter.

This is not Facebook, use the conversation option for your personal rants.


And lastly his name is VP Malik not VP Singh. Go learn the difference.

Statement of VP Singh lol
LOL, my personal rant.
What a pathetic loser, had nothing to argue. So, came up with a bash.:troll:
 

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Which Pakistani is peeing in his pant? They have given India threat of using Nuclear weapon and already went to International court of justice.
Pakis are under such pressure since 9/11. They have in past 1.6 decade learnt the art to manipulate with nuclear powers.
That itself shows that they're rattled. Nawaz is facing a political shitstorm back home over his failed bid to internationalize Kashmir, which boomeranged at UNGA and resulted in further isolation. Threats of retaliation from India bled Karachi stock exchange, and Paki Army is spending money on wasteful mobilization. China isn't coming through diplomatically, and US isn't firefighting the situation as expected. The failure couldn't be more epic for Nawaz. He now risks giving India a greater share of Indus waters through treaty renegotiation, with minimal consequences for India.
 

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That itself shows that they're rattled. Nawaz is facing a political shitstorm back home over his failed bid to internationalize Kashmir, which boomeranged at UNGA and resulted in further isolation. Threats of retaliation from India bled Karachi stock exchange, and Paki Army is spending money on wasteful mobilization. China isn't coming through diplomatically, and US isn't firefighting the situation as expected. The failure couldn't be more epic for Nawaz. He now risks giving India a greater share of Indus waters through treaty renegotiation, with minimal consequences for India.
Sirji, our main problem is that if the government does not attack Pak immediately in emotions like 15 years old boys (I wonder if any country does go for a war during it's economic progress :rolleyes:), there will always be drums of "jumlas" will be beaten on (even if India treats it covertly). Still, people sticking to same drum of "glory" without using even after getting dozens of arguments explanations.
Very unfortunate.:(
 

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No one in that country apart from few patwaris in Punjab consider Nawaz a leader.
It's all about their army which is funded by US and China to balance India.
People may have some fear, but this does not demoralize their army which is ready to fight a war. And in Lahore people are busy for moharram. They already have hit us in Uri covertly.




few more have entered into India covertly to create havoc.
LOL EVEN pti and imran khan support balochistan freedom movement and MQM a group which altaf hussain is the leader and had called pakistan a shithole
 

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Sirji, our main problem is that if the government does not attack Pak immediately in emotions like 15 years old boys (I wonder if any country does go for a war during it's economic progress :rolleyes:), there will always be drums of "jumlas" will be beaten on (even if India treats it covertly). Still, people sticking to same drum of "glory" without using even after getting dozens of arguments explanations.
Very unfortunate.:(
try explaining this to @Bornubus or @Screambowl
 

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Bhai what do you think about these developments?
Good..much better. From all quarters there was conflicting news about pak getting isolated or not and we have paki bitches dancing to the paki media tunes on Indian soil and elsewhere on "Isolation"

Now lets see how pak media plays out the REALITY presented to them on "isolation" by nations in the region.


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I am not saying china is with India..but nations have different narratives..but if India could bring china on the same narrative on "SOME" issues..thats good.

China, India agree to step up counterterror cooperation
http://en.gmw.cn/2016-09/28/content_22197417.htm

BEIJING, Sept. 27 (Xinhua) — China and India on Tuesday held their first dialogue on counterterrorism and security.

The two sides exchanged opinions on the international and regional security situation and their respective anti-terrorism systems, mechanisms and legislation.

They also reached consensus on measures to strengthen cooperation and to jointly deal with security threats, according to a document issued after the meeting.

The dialogue was jointly chaired by Wang Yongqing, secretary-general of the Commission for Political and Legal Affairs of the Communist Party of China Central Committee, and R.N. Ravi, chairman of Joint Intelligence Committee of India.

In his talks with Ravi, Meng Jianzhu, head of the Commission for Political and Legal Affairs of the CPC Central Committee, commended stable progress in Sino-Indian ties.

He said terrorism is a common enemy of the global community, adding that strengthened counterterrorism cooperation between China and India was conducive to the interests of the people of both countries.

He voiced hope that the two sides could put to action counterterrorism collaboration and protect regional security and that of the two countries.

Ravi, for his part, said India was willing to step up communication and cooperation with China in the field of counterterrorism, so that the two sides could work together via unity and solidarity.


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Now lets focus on the MFN status and other trade treaties in effect.
It wont do much...but these are needed steps.
 

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Bhai @Bornubus ... straight question...

Aaj Kal bahut Gusse mein ho...

Are you are angry that modi did not take a military retaliation route, or is there more to this?
 

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Bhai @Bornubus ... straight question...

Aaj Kal bahut Gusse mein ho...

Are you are angry that modi did not take a military retaliation route, or is there more to this?
What about you ! You ok with Uri ?
 

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What about you ! You ok with Uri ?
Nope!!!

But let me repeat what I said to Kshatriya87 the other day.

If this was three years back, I would have expected a military retaliation and upset if not done.

But now for the first time there is talk of a multi-pronged strategy on diplomatic, economic, ecological and military fronts . I would like to see where this goes.

Even retired generals on TV debates who said for first two days that military is being held back, are now saying that multi-pronged strategy is better than a reactive retaliation.

Hope you have not forgotten that we did do a month long massive retaliation towards the end of 2014, but that has not changed many things from paki side.

Bolo !!!
 

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This smart game led to the death of 18 soldiers.
Like everyone and like very other Indian Goverment the current GoI too took the risk of "friendship" with pakistan knowing very well how it will play out.
Establishments is under obligation to "practice" certain things even if we don't like it.

The pro pak lobby in India who bats for pak terrorists is effectively silenced with the "rationale" put in place. Funny that no voice in India is questioning the award vapsi brigade/left brigade and JNU assholes for the death of our soldiers.

Now GoI ise doing what any responsible nation will do to ensure that our soldiers are safe on all counts.


I will only consider them successful if they succeed breaking the moral of Pakistan Army. Otherwise any action would be termed as failure for future. Any Indian plan will have a counter by pakistan. And Pakistan is a nuclear state. Till now they have succeeded in manipulating the war through nuclear threat.
pakistan is and was a nuclear threat..even during kargil.
We know what happened at Kargil.

India has broken the morale of pakistan army..they are forced to fight and eat grass. They are not en mass at the border because of the morale..but because of duty. They know they are cannon fodder for Indian army.
The pak army men knows their dead bodies wont even be accepted by paki army and establishment..

Any nation will have a counter plan..Indian army is not and NEVER under the belief that there will be an easy win.
India will have counter plan for pakistan counter plans :D
That is war and preparation.


What changed NOW?
Consensus changed...now I think if the Indian army bash them through nobody will stop the Indian army or its political apparatus from gaining its political objectives.
Usually what happens during war..India retaliates and Indian Army is put in action ..
War is waged and before India makes any substantial grounds at political or ground level..pakistan goes to USA and others to STOP india from bashing them further.


Then..after pinning pakistan down at mil.level .. Indian establishment stops war..pak bitches about losses and makes India looks like a thug in front of the international community. Then pak goes to banks all over the world with begging bowl to get money by showcasing India's WAR attitude and the damage India caused to pakistan economically and otherwise.


C;mon during post URI...pakistan envoy to UN cried in front of the media at NY on the sidelines of UNGA asking the world community to STOP indian cold start doctrine which pak think is put in effect post URI. So thats pak playing it as USUAL.



NOW the current GoI doesnt want such a rhetoric to PLAY OUT AGAIN. Indian army will bash pakistan and make pakistan void if it has a nuke or NOT.
TNW of pakistan will make it very easy for India to take down pakistan.
If TNW is played out even at a deterrent level by pakistan then china wont even want pakistan as pakistan is useless after.
Forget china...India will take such a move as a FULL SCALE nuclear war as its doctrine suggests anyway.


pakistan army is Using the nuclear threat to Safeguard the 20 billion asset worth of business houses pakistan army has in pakistan.

India has called the bluff...now its a DARE!! pakis should have known it by now.



No India should not go for overt war. The war has to be proxy war. USA has played well against non nuclear states and weak nations. What could they do about Iran? Nothing! Their all diplomacy failed against Iran and north Korea.
proxy war is bringing paid militants into the equation. So far India has desisted from it because militants will play both sides or where money is offered more.

Proxy war is not In line with Indian stand of "taking terrorism as a global threat , not taking sides in the your terrorist/my terrorist game plan or treat it as good-bad terrorism"

pakistan and many other nations want India to go for proxy war using militia as such a mechanism will do more harm to India than good.
Look what happened to pakistan by sleeping with and breeding terrorists.

USA's plan is about securing OIL FIELDS and OIL LOGISTICS and protecting its INVESTMENTS and petro dollars in Oil rich MIDDLE EAST. Militias will work for less than an average US soldier..
USA found that it can get oil and sell weapons at the same time..One stone..2 birds.


India knows that and India is NO fool to use Terrorism as a state policy or a tool.

Iran suffered technology wise,investment wise,..They could have done better without sanctions..
IRAN has OIL..as a leverage to make it relevant..what does pakistan have? Terrorists as its resource!!!
:D Ofcourse pakistan has the largest market share for terrorists and terrorism..but thats not selling much these days.

North Korea is supported by china as its nuclear testing ground. china is the reason why north korea is thriving despite sanctions. also despite USA knowing very well that NoKo can be taken down they wont because US will try to get china through NoKo.
USA wants NoKo to be relevant.
Sanctions has worked on NoKo as most knows how the situation is inside NoKo.
pak being a democracy ..even dummy democracy cannot afford sanctions...




Only during cold war they succeeded against USSR a nuclear state that too because England and US had collaborated and coordinated the operations against USSR.
Does India have that much money to do vast operations against a nuclear state?
Absolutely...that means pak in itself has no capability be it intel or mil.

India has done Kargil despite pak having nukes and the same threats.and the whole world against India..yes and the deeper than deepest paki friend china among them. Oh yes...remember..mushraff who started the Kargil war was in Beijing when Kargil was happening..
So...see how the Indian "diplomacy" works.

India has "MUCH MONEY " to take down the small state of pakistan with defunct economy and eroding mil. capacity.


pakistan cant even afford a war then and even Now and you are asking If India has such money to wage a war with a bluff of nuke threat.



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:D The talk about "india having money" makes me think you guys are all batting the chinese lines. usually found along the 50 cent narrative of vision on India.
Its usually the chinese posters who say "Oh does India have that kinda Money?"
 

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I visited pakistani forum for a change and soon I returned back disheartened after finding out they already found out solution for the threat about Indus water treaty.

1.JPG


Here is the solution:

2.JPG
 
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