good. maybe then your government will stop wasting so much time trying to get permanent seat.No logic.
That's why I said, we should not expect support. I think we both are in agreement.
good. maybe then your government will stop wasting so much time trying to get permanent seat.No logic.
That's why I said, we should not expect support. I think we both are in agreement.
And yours should stop wasting time trying to be the top dog at the world stage, you guys ain't good enough.good. maybe then your government will stop wasting so much time trying to get permanent seat.
i very much hope america can remain #1 world policeman. they secure sea lanes, and middle east stability, with trillions of their own moneyAnd yours should stop wasting time trying to be the top dog at the world stage, you guys ain't good enough.
Peer pressure not just from India but all powers involved will make this happen. All one needs to do is corner China and paint it as the villain and it will fall in line. Voting for NSG waiver is a precedent.Somehow, I don't think any amount of squeezing will bring them in line.
They enjoy the company of only failed and rogue states like Pakistan and NK.
haha, do you think any of the P5 want to dilute their own "veto" power?Peer pressure not just from India but all powers involved will make this happen. All one needs to do is corner China and paint it as the villain and it will fall in line. Voting for NSG waiver is a precedent.
You nailed it.no smoking,
the urge for reform will come from UNGA, once India get 2/3 votes in the UNGA, china stands zero % chance of blocking India, Just like you caved in 2008 in the NSG meet. In 2008 all the NSG members agreed to give india a waiver except china, at the chia could not withstand the pressure and caved in, likewise your country will cave in once India 2/3 votes in the general assembly. if china vetos then again after the 2 months the issue will prop up, china will have veto it inifinetely to block india. nobody can stop india getting permanent seat
Well, objection in NSG is just a gesture from China, india's victory doesn't hurt China that much.no smoking,
the urge for reform will come from UNGA, once India get 2/3 votes in the UNGA, china stands zero % chance of blocking India, Just like you caved in 2008 in the NSG meet. In 2008 all the NSG members agreed to give india a waiver except china, at the chia could not withstand the pressure and caved in, likewise your country will cave in once India 2/3 votes in the general assembly. if china vetos then again after the 2 months the issue will prop up, china will have veto it inifinetely to block india. nobody can stop india getting permanent seat
permanent seat is not another story, once we get 2/3 votes in UNGA, the story would be for china to vote on it. also india is under no illusion that the other three countries in the G4 don't have strong chance. India is just with them till voting happens, if each individual countries can't secure 2/3 votes, that won't be india's problem. voting will happen not on G4, but on country basis. G4 is just a vechle to reach to the voting process. India has more then 2/3 votes as of today. other three don't have much chance anyway, they are just banwagninig along with india for a consolation price. by the end of next year India will in UNSC as permanent member. china can do what ever muscle flexing they will have swallow this bitter pill.Well, objection in NSG is just a gesture from China, india's victory doesn't hurt China that much.
For permanent seat in UNSC, that is another story. The key here for China is not about india but Japan. China will do whatever it can to block Japan's entry. The same thing applies to others, US doesn't want Brazil and Russia opposites German. So the idea of F4 getting in together is not welcomed by any of Big 5.
Unfortunately without other 3, india doesn't have enough influence to get in.
permanent seat is not another story, once we get 2/3 votes in UNGA, the story would be for china to vote on it. also india is under no illusion that the other three countries in the G4 don't have strong chance. India is just with them till voting happens, if each individual countries can't secure 2/3 votes, that won't be india's problem. voting will happen not on G4, but on country basis. G4 is just a vechle to reach to the voting process. India has more then 2/3 votes as of today. other three don't have much chance anyway, they are just banwagninig along with india for a consolation price. by the end of next year India will in UNSC as permanent member. china can do what ever muscle flexing they will have swallow this bitter pill.
By one vote. Guess who was that?Frustrated pathetic perverted losers.....
Bad news Pakistan won the seat... go cry now.
I must say it takes courage to be a Pakistani Nationalist in this forum.Frustrated pathetic perverted losers.....
Bad news Pakistan won the seat... go cry now.
Indeed. It takes a great deal of courage (or is it daftness?) to have the piss taken out of you time and time again and keep coming back for more.I must say it takes courage to be a Pakistani Nationalist in this forum.
I would go with daftness, he is the usual Yindu-Yankee-Yehudi conspiracy guy! I love chewtoys like them!Indeed. It takes a great deal of courage (or is it daftness?) to have the piss taken out of you time and time again and keep coming back for more.
Very few can measure up to being the laughing stock of the civilised world.
The big 5 are actually a big 1.When can our india friend understand: none of big 5 wants to see a new one sharing their power in permanent UNSC.
These so called "supporting" gestures are just lip works mean nothing.
Remember: in 2008, it was representives of USA and China together crashing the reform requirement from F4.
You are paying through your nose. You manufacture stuff(MOSTLY Shite) in return for worthless US paper dollars.i very much hope america can remain #1 world policeman. they secure sea lanes, and middle east stability, with trillions of their own money
this is the best possible situation, america upholds global stability, while we don't have to pay one cent for it. and we can continue strengthening our economy.
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