aditya g
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Buying from China.9 submarines is a huge number. Do they have money? Where r they buying from?
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Buying from China.9 submarines is a huge number. Do they have money? Where r they buying from?
They will grow stronger by the grace of PRC. The only limiting factor I see is the OPEX to maintain a larger fleet especially since the PN will compete with Pak Army and Air Force for funds.Good days are ahead for PN - following ships are on order or planned;
04 Corvette (Ada Class)
02 Fast Attack Craft - Missile (Azmat Class and Azmat Class Mod)
01 OPV
02 Maritime Patrol Vessel (1500t)
01 Maritime Patrol Vessel (600t)
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10 surface ships
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08 Submarine
01 Submarine (Midget)
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09 Submarines
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01 Survey
02 Multi Purpose Barge
02 Tug 32 Ton Bollard Pull
05 Fire Tender
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10 Auxilliary ships
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as of 14-Jun-2017
We need more attack subs than we need aircraft carriers.They will grow stronger by the grace of PRC. The only limiting factor I see is the OPEX to maintain a larger fleet especially since the PN will compete with Pak Army and Air Force for funds.
During Operation Talwar in 1999,the Indian Navy was patrolling the waters 24km off Karachi. The only downside for us is that in a war-like situation, establishing a similar sea-control in the future would require more of our Naval assets than it does today.
But the largest threat remains their submarine fleet. We need many more submarines than we posses now. And even Bagladesh is acquiring more submarines. Maybe we need to mull a SOSUS like array of undersea sensors.
If we can take out their submarines, the rest of their fleet will be relegated to their territorial waters, or maybe withdrawn to their shipyards. In such a case, two Kolkatta class destroyers will be enough to sink their entire fleet.We need more attack subs than we need aircraft carriers.
Attack subs+boeing p8's+anti sub warfare subs can keep their under sea fleet in check
2 cbg's are enough to sink their navy.
I believe we have some 2-4 tu-22 aircrafts.Deadly,supersonic and capable enough to sink half paki fleet.If we can take out their submarines, the rest of their fleet will be relegated to their territorial waters, or maybe withdrawn to their shipyards. In such a case, two Kolkatta class destroyers will be enough to sink their entire fleet.
BTW, those Kolkatta class ships will be docked outside Dwarka when they take out the entire Pak fleet.
I think we will order more P-8I. BTW, I remember there was a Indian Navy tender for a medium range maritime recon aircraft. Anyone know what happened to it?
I believe we have some 2-4 tu-22 aircrafts.Deadly,supersonic and capable enough to sink half paki fleet.
Our Vikramaditya carrier group consist of 20-30 mig-29k's,2 kolkata destroyers,2 shivalik frigates,kamotra class ASW corvette,and akula attack sub.
With the range of brahmos being around 600km,the pakis are doomed.
Just 4 of them will put a lot of pressure on pak navy.Negative we don t have any operational TU-22 in our inventory ...I think the deal never went through and got cancelled if i am not wrong ...Any one has any credible information we had operated TU-22M???
May be in future we may get hands on TU-160 Strategic Heavy Bomber if the Russians are ready to help us giving few ..
Just 4 of them will put a lot of pressure on pak navy.
A supersonic bomber coupled with 20-30 mig's carrying kh-55 missile.
Oh boy...............
Kamotra class is coming along with new minesweepers from Korea.Boys we don't need blinders to put pressure on Pak navy.
Right now we need:
1. More shallow water asw corvette
2. Minesweeper s
To address PN threat
On one side U.S. is pretending to act tough against Pakistan and threatening to stop economic aid to Pakistan. While on the other hand giving them US coast guard vessels. Where is the credibility on part of U.S.? I don't trust U.S. anymore.Dream run for PMSA continues with 2 more ships
https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/231617-Two-island-class-ships-inducted-into-PMSA
Two Island Class ships, PMSS SABQAT and RAFAQAT, were formally inducted and commissioned into the Pakistan Maritime Security Agency at a ceremony on Thursday.
After serving in the US Coast Guards, the ships have undergone a complete overhaul in the United States prior to their delivery and commissioning into the Pakistan Maritime Security Agency (PMSA).
Vice Admiral Tayyab Ali Dogar graced the occasion as chief guest, and senior military and government officials, and the US consul general in Karachi attended the ceremony. These ships have been equipped with capabilities to effectively undertake patrolling, surveillance, search and rescue and other law enforcement operations. The crew members of the ships were trained at US Coast Guards facilities.
During his welcome address, Rear Admiral Jamil Akhtar, director general of the PMSA, said that for the growing needs of the enhanced area of responsibility of the PMSA’s evolving maritime challenges, law enforcement imperatives and national obligations of SAR, a capacity enhancement plan approved by the federal government was smoothly proceeding.
He described the induction of a record number of platforms in a single calendar year as unprecedented in the history of the PMSA. He added that the acquisition of all these platforms had been a challenging process having peculiar complications with regard to manning, budgetary approvals, crew training and their blending into the existing the repair, maintenance and support regimes. However, all this had been made easier and smooth through extra efforts and a focused approach by the PMSA.
Vice Admiral Tayyab Ali Dogar, in his address, congratulated the PMSA on the induction of the two ships after the earlier induction of three maritime patrol vessels into the fleet within a span of just eight months.
He declared this a proud and historic moment for the PMSA and everyone involved. He said that PMSS SABQAT and RAFAQAT were a new chapter in the developmental plans of the PMSA and the two ships would serve the country and the PMSA effectively in the coming decades.
He hoped that these platforms would surely strengthen the operational capacity and offer flexibility in law enforcement by the PMSA.
Admiral Dogar said that such developments were encouraging for the maritime sector, which was gaining requisite focus and attention. He further said that maritime security apparatus was also cruising up at a positive and consistent pace to the growing demands of maritime domains, especially after the announcement of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor. The chief guest also visited various sections of the ships where he was briefed by commanding officers about the capabilities of the ships.
This is a long game, need not judge on every small thing that happens. And more over if the boats are coming now, it means negotiations started during Obama period.On one side U.S. is pretending to act tough against Pakistan and threatening to stop economic aid to Pakistan. While on the other hand giving them US coast guard vessels. Where is the credibility on part of U.S.? I don't trust U.S. anymore.
Good days are ahead for PN - following ships are on order or planned;
04 Corvette (Ada Class)
02 Fast Attack Craft - Missile (Azmat Class and Azmat Class Mod)
01 OPV
02 Maritime Patrol Vessel (1500t)
01 Maritime Patrol Vessel (600t)
----------------
10 surface ships
----------------
08 Submarine
01 Submarine (Midget)
----------
09 Submarines
----------
01 Survey
02 Multi Purpose Barge
02 Tug 32 Ton Bollard Pull
05 Fire Tender
----------
10 Auxilliary ships
----------
as of 14-Jun-2017
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