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Shit Road not working as it should. No surprises there.


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At least they're trying to do something. What exactly are we doing internationally? We made chabahar but Iran is still playing a double game with us regarding China and Pakistan. The chinese are pushing for their own currency for trading in OBOR, hence saving their forex reserves. And the pakis have already jumped in, not realizing how much they'll get screwed. Is there even one country that we can trade with in rupees?

And remember, China is doing this after overdeveloping it's own infrastructure, with the side effect being all those ghost cities. But as far as India is concerned, do you think we will have even half of their infrastructure 10 years from now? God damn, I'm still waiting for the day when we have 100% toilet coverage.

OBOR may be a scam, but it's a scam that benefits China massively, if they pull it off.
 
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At least they're trying to do something. What exactly are we doing internationally? We made chabahar but Iran is still playing a double game with us regarding China and Pakistan. The chinese are pushing for their own currency for trading in OBOR, hence saving their forex reserves. And the pakis have already jumped in, not realizing how much they'll get screwed. Is there even one country that we can trade with in rupees?

And remember, China is doing this after overdeveloping it's own infrastructure, with the side effect being all those ghost cities. But as far as India is concerned, do you think we will have even half of their infrastructure 10 years from now? God damn, I'm still waiting for the day when we have 100% toilet coverage.

OBOR may be a scam, but it's a scam that benefits China massively, if they pull it off.
You can't compare India with China. They are an autocracy where when the CPC says jump, you jump. We are a cacophonous democracy where politics reigns supreme and that eons old 'sab chalta hai' attitude. Out here it takes an act of God to get things moving, not so in China.
 

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You can't compare India with China. They are an autocracy where when the CPC says jump, you jump. We are a cacophonous democracy where politics reigns supreme and that eons old 'sab chalta hai' attitude. Out here it takes an act of God to get things moving, not so in China.
I understand that we are slower as a country. My point is only that we need to set clear goals, both internally and internationally, and make a real effort. I'm simply saying that the Chinese have set a major goal for themselves globally, and are doing everything within their power, either morally or immorally, to see it done. Whether or not it's a success is another matter. But they're trying something big.
 

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Sweeter than Honey friend set to desert Pukis!

ISLAMABAD: China is understood to be on the verge of putting on hold further investments under CPEC beyond what has already been done – a decision linked to the prevalent uncertain political situation in Pakistan and surging fears of turmoil in the months ahead.


The move, sounded out in a recent meeting of the new Chinese ambassador with the prime minister, will not affect the ongoing investments worth 29 billion dollars made so far out of 56 billion dollars committed by Beijing for impressive range of infrastructure projects in Pakistan, competent sources said.

The worrisome development is not entirely unexpected amid the chain of events unleashed in the wake of the ouster of former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif through the July 28 verdict by a five-member Supreme Court bench and its wider implications for the very future of the country as it battles terrorism and confronts the perpetual hostility from a bigger neighbour and pressures from Trump-led US.

As things stand now, confusion and doubts abound regarding whether and how the nation will steer through the mess in order to maintain its deeply endangered march on the road to a stable democratic dispensation, through peaceful elections leading to a second smooth transfer of power from one elected government to another in the 70-year life of the country.

According to sources, the Chinese envoy has been in touch with authorities on the emerging scenario. The envoy is also understood to have broached the subject when he met with Nawaz Sharif at his Raiwind residence on Saturday.

The ambassador has already called on Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi, who has often voiced concerns over the multi-dimensional fallout of the controversial court verdict including possible repercussions for the mega project which is crucial for Pakistan’s economy as well as regional connectivity.

The Chinese have conveyed that the CPEC would be on the back burner until the uncertainty goes and the next government is in place as a result of the elections, a top government official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

In the face of India’s avowed mission to sabotage the corridor project, the uncertain domestic environment is generally considered all the more ominous.

Ahsan Iqbal, who spearheads CPEC talks from Pakistan side, said a delegation headed by Secretary Planning is leaving for Beijing on Sunday (today) for next phase of talks. “Portfolio is moving forward and new phase of talks is beginning the next week,” the minister told The News.

‘Political events in Pakistan have sent China in a watchful mood,” Ahsan Iqbal said. “I, however, don’t see any threat to CPEC but I am concerned if we continue to throw surprises to the outside world, then anyone can be forced to rethink their economic investments,” he said. “In such a scenario our prospects of getting maximum benefits may be compromised,” he said adding “we have to ensure 200 percent political stability.”

There is a clear national consensus on the importance and significance of CPEC for the county’s economic growth, further strengthening of relations with the great friend and ally to the north, in the interest of regional balance and security and tackling the grave problem of unemployment and opening up vistas of great commercial benefits.

The deep sea port being developed at Gwadar in Balochistan and the extensive road and rail network will no doubt transform the region, lifting the country to its richly deserved stature of economic power commensurate with its distinction of being the sole Islamic nuclear power. All players in national politics stand in unison for uninterrupted and flawless implementation of CPEC, overcoming all hurdles in the way.
 

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The deep sea port being developed at Gwadar in Balochistan and the extensive road and rail network will no doubt transform the region, lifting the country to its richly deserved stature of economic power commensurate with its distinction of being the sole Islamic nuclear power. All players in national politics stand in unison for uninterrupted and flawless implementation of CPEC, overcoming all hurdles in the way.
The usual hocus pocus from deluded Pakis. Selling cotton undies and vests through the CPEC isn't going to make Pak an 'economic power'!! They have zilch else to export.

And that old hyperbole about being the 'sole Islamic nuclear power' that we keep hearing ad infinitum is making me puke.
 

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Sweeter than Honey friend set to desert Pukis!

ISLAMABAD: China is understood to be on the verge of putting on hold further investments under CPEC beyond what has already been done – a decision linked to the prevalent uncertain political situation in Pakistan and surging fears of turmoil in the months ahead.


The move, sounded out in a recent meeting of the new Chinese ambassador with the prime minister, will not affect the ongoing investments worth 29 billion dollars made so far out of 56 billion dollars committed by Beijing for impressive range of infrastructure projects in Pakistan, competent sources said.

The worrisome development is not entirely unexpected amid the chain of events unleashed in the wake of the ouster of former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif through the July 28 verdict by a five-member Supreme Court bench and its wider implications for the very future of the country as it battles terrorism and confronts the perpetual hostility from a bigger neighbour and pressures from Trump-led US.

As things stand now, confusion and doubts abound regarding whether and how the nation will steer through the mess in order to maintain its deeply endangered march on the road to a stable democratic dispensation, through peaceful elections leading to a second smooth transfer of power from one elected government to another in the 70-year life of the country.

According to sources, the Chinese envoy has been in touch with authorities on the emerging scenario. The envoy is also understood to have broached the subject when he met with Nawaz Sharif at his Raiwind residence on Saturday.

The ambassador has already called on Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi, who has often voiced concerns over the multi-dimensional fallout of the controversial court verdict including possible repercussions for the mega project which is crucial for Pakistan’s economy as well as regional connectivity.

The Chinese have conveyed that the CPEC would be on the back burner until the uncertainty goes and the next government is in place as a result of the elections, a top government official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

In the face of India’s avowed mission to sabotage the corridor project, the uncertain domestic environment is generally considered all the more ominous.

Ahsan Iqbal, who spearheads CPEC talks from Pakistan side, said a delegation headed by Secretary Planning is leaving for Beijing on Sunday (today) for next phase of talks. “Portfolio is moving forward and new phase of talks is beginning the next week,” the minister told The News.

‘Political events in Pakistan have sent China in a watchful mood,” Ahsan Iqbal said. “I, however, don’t see any threat to CPEC but I am concerned if we continue to throw surprises to the outside world, then anyone can be forced to rethink their economic investments,” he said. “In such a scenario our prospects of getting maximum benefits may be compromised,” he said adding “we have to ensure 200 percent political stability.”

There is a clear national consensus on the importance and significance of CPEC for the county’s economic growth, further strengthening of relations with the great friend and ally to the north, in the interest of regional balance and security and tackling the grave problem of unemployment and opening up vistas of great commercial benefits.

The deep sea port being developed at Gwadar in Balochistan and the extensive road and rail network will no doubt transform the region, lifting the country to its richly deserved stature of economic power commensurate with its distinction of being the sole Islamic nuclear power. All players in national politics stand in unison for uninterrupted and flawless implementation of CPEC, overcoming all hurdles in the way.
China wont abandon her chick so easily, unless cost-benefit ratio (inclusive of strategic benefits) is made toooooooooo high for them. This could be just a pressure tactic against army which is desperate to kick out Nawaz Sharif clan and install their puppet government.
 

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Vietnamese workers ease labor shortage in Guangxi China

The border areas in South China's Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region have become more open as growing numbers of Vietnamese cross the border to work and trade.

The Vietnamese workers are welcomed by local Chinese residents as they have made up the shortage of laborers and work for lower salaries.

"The exchange in laborers not only strengthens the communication between border residents in China and Vietnam, but can also enhances the friendship between the two countries," Gu Xiaosong, an expert on Southeast Asian Studies at the Guangxi Academy of Social Sciences, told the Global Times on Wednesday.

Daily exodus

Every morning in Dongxing, a border city in southern Guangxi, Vietnamese laborers pour into China through the border gate to begin their daily work.

According to the immigration inspection station at Dongxing, 25,000 people cross the Sino-Vietnamese border through the Dongxing port daily, including around 10,000 migrant workers from Vietnam, The Beijing News reported.

China's Dongxing and Vietnam's Mong Cai are a pair of small cities separated by a border river, so it is very convenient for the residents to cross the border for work and trade, Gu said, noting that the similar language and lifestyle of people in the two cities have made the exchange much easier.

Nowadays, it takes a person just five to 10 seconds to cross the border using self-service clearance by scanning the barcode on the certificate for nearby residents, said The Beijing News.

Thanks to the openness of the border, Vietnamese products including seafood, fruit and medicine can be bought in Dongxing.

Xiaofeng, a Vietnamese salesgirl in Dongxing, told The Beijing Times that Chinese bosses prefer Vietnamese employees, and Chinese tourists love to chat with them.

Now, Xiaofeng can earn even more than a university graduate student in Vietnam. "I can speak fluent Chinese, but other people who cannot could only do hard labor," she said.

At 9 pm, the Vietnamese workers, carrying bags filled with Chinese products, go back to their country.

In Pingxiang, another small border city in Guangxi, 270 kilometers away from Dongxing, more than 1,000 Vietnamese work and live in local furniture factories and fruit markets.

"The Vietnamese workers are very welcome in the China side, as we lack laborers - hardly any Chinese workers come to work in the border areas, as they prefer economically advanced regions such as Guangdong Province," a Pingxiang resident, surnamed Peng who trades red sandalwood furniture between China and Vietnam, told the Global Times on Wednesday.

Most of them can communicate in simple Chinese, and there is always a worker who can speak Chinese to lead the others, Peng said.

According to Peng, an experienced carpenter can earn as much as 9,000 yuan a month, and a beginner around 2,000 yuan, which is still much better than what they can get in Vietnam.

"However, most Vietnamese workers are not as educated, skilled or hardworking as the Chinese, so the salaries are slightly lower than for Chinese carpenters," Peng said.

Everybody wins

"Vietnamese coming across the border to work in China is a win-win," Gu said.

"The Vietnamese workers earn more in China, which can improve their living standards," Gu said, adding that these people make up the vacancies left by Chinese border residents who have gone to seek their fortune in more advanced areas such as the Pearl River Delta.

Moreover, local people from China and Vietnam, and even the two countries, can enhance communication and friendship from rising exchanges, he noted.

"Guangxi people are not against foreigners, so they will not discriminate against the Vietnamese workers," Zhong Jing, a Guangxi resident in the capital city Nanning, told the Global Times.

However, the visas issued to Vietnamese workers only lasts one month, so they have to go back to reapply every month and pay the agencies around 600 yuan each time, according to Peng. "We hope the visa policy can be eased for Vietnamese workers so that they can work in the factories more regularly," Peng said.

Meanwhile, police in Dongxing also vowed to crack down on smuggling at the port to better safeguard cross-border trade, the local procuratorate reported in September.
 

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China offers 15-year free school education in restive Xinjiang

BEIJING: China introduced free education for 15 years for all high school students in the troubled Xinjiang province in a bid to wean away Uygur Muslim youngsters from the influence of radical Islam and militancy.

Almost 860,000 high school students in Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region will receive free education, the regional education department said.

Tuition, textbook costs and accommodation fees will be waived for a total of 857,200 students studying in high schools as well as secondary vocational schools in Xinjiang.

Extra subsidies will be provided to students from poor families, state-run Xinhua news agency reported.
 

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China offers 15-year free school education in restive Xinjiang

BEIJING: China introduced free education for 15 years for all high school students in the troubled Xinjiang province in a bid to wean away Uygur Muslim youngsters from the influence of radical Islam and militancy.

Almost 860,000 high school students in Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region will receive free education, the regional education department said.

Tuition, textbook costs and accommodation fees will be waived for a total of 857,200 students studying in high schools as well as secondary vocational schools in Xinjiang.

Extra subsidies will be provided to students from poor families, state-run Xinhua news agency reported.
Can this eyewash by the Chinese wean away the Uighurs from their right of self determination, religious oppression and suppression in Xinjiang? Not a chance!
 

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Can this eyewash by the Chinese wean away the Uighurs from their right of self determination, religious oppression and suppression in Xinjiang? Not a chance!
Reset your skewed attention to a bigger picture please. This free edu. is for ALL Xinjiang students, from kindegarten to high school .

Unlike previous policies favoring ethnic minority groups in Xinjiang, this reform is designed to lessen the sense of inequality felt by the local Han people.

Xinjiang had previously implemented a pre-school to middle school free education program for students in Southern Xinjiang's Kashgar, Hotan and Aksu prefectures, while students in the Kizilsu Kirgiz Autonomous Prefecture received a full 15 years of free education, according to People's Daily on Monday.

Xinjiang has also set aside 2.58 billion yuan ($170 million) to finance the region's 15-year free education program, and students from low-income families in rural areas will be included in the financial aid program, said the report.
There're Han, Kyrgyz, Mongol, Kazakh, Xibe............... U probably only focus on Uyghurs that're half of the total population at best, and mostly in the south.

The whole idea of "socialism" (at least in Chinese lexicon) is about the better-off (coastal) is to help the disadvantaged hinterlands.

 

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Nepal accesses internet through China, ending India monopoly

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Nepal opened an optical fiber link across the Himalayan mountains to China on Friday, ending years of dependency on India for internet access.

Information minister Mohan Bahadur Basnet inaugurated the link in a ceremony in the capital, Kathmandu.

The optical fiber line crosses into China from the Rasuwagadhi border point, northwest of Kathmandu.

Until Friday, landlocked Nepal's only internet connections were through three access points in neighboring India. China is providing an additional route to the global internet.
 

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Nepal accesses internet through China, ending India monopoly

The Associated Press
January 12, 2018 03:06 AM
KATHMANDU, NEPAL
Nepal opened an optical fiber link across the Himalayan mountains to China on Friday, ending years of dependency on India for internet access.

Information minister Mohan Bahadur Basnet inaugurated the link in a ceremony in the capital, Kathmandu.

The optical fiber line crosses into China from the Rasuwagadhi border point, northwest of Kathmandu.

Until Friday, landlocked Nepal's only internet connections were through three access points in neighboring India. China is providing an additional route to the global internet.
Nepal has also rejected Indian help to jointly re measure Mt Everest and some more new unprecedented developments in our neighborhood



First ever Joint Nepal - China Military ex Sagarmatha 2017
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Nepal has also rejected Indian help to jointly re measure Mt Everest and some more new unprecedented developments in our neighborhood



First ever Joint Nepal - China Military ex Sagarmatha 2017 View attachment 22606
the Nepal-India relation is becoming normal now that China is offering Nepal more options, saving Nepal from reducing itself into another protectorate of India. Nepal's sovereignty and independence will be substantiated only if it reduces its economic independence over India.
 

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the Nepal-India relation is becoming normal now that China is offering Nepal more options, saving Nepal from reducing itself into another protectorate of India. Nepal's sovereignty and independence will be substantiated only if it reduces its economic independence over India.
Really? Your hidden agenda is not difficult to see. Like Pak, which you are fast trying to make as your 6th Autonomous Region, you are now trying to gobble up Nepal, to make it the 7th. Recently you tried to do the same with Bhutan too but they kicked you in the shin.

Your's is a disruptive hegemonist nation. Period!
 

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the Nepal-India relation is becoming normal now that China is offering Nepal more options, saving Nepal from reducing itself into another protectorate of India. Nepal's sovereignty and independence will be substantiated only if it reduces its economic independence over India.
China can never replace India in Nepal simply because of geography. It is far easier for India to trade in truck loads of goods, as the India Nepal border isn't mountainous, and it close to major population centres in India. China will have to bring goods through just a few roads through the Himalayas, or airlift it, both of which are expensive options. In addition to this, there are hundreds of thousands of Nepalis in India who earn a living here. And there are linguistic and religious connections.
 

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China can never replace India in Nepal simply because of geography. It is far easier for India to trade in truck loads of goods, as the India Nepal border isn't mountainous, and it close to major population centres in India. China will have to bring goods through just a few roads through the Himalayas, or airlift it, both of which are expensive options. In addition to this, there are hundreds of thousands of Nepalis in India who earn a living here. And there are linguistic and religious connections.
45% of nepali population that are Mashesi are still deeply rooted to Maithali culture and will remain so for many years to come.
 

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China can never replace India in Nepal simply because of geography. It is far easier for India to trade in truck loads of goods, as the India Nepal border isn't mountainous, and it close to major population centres in India. China will have to bring goods through just a few roads through the Himalayas, or airlift it, both of which are expensive options. In addition to this, there are hundreds of thousands of Nepalis in India who earn a living here. And there are linguistic and religious connections.
Not only geography but ideology too. Unlike India, China is an ungodly communist nation that doesn't believe in religion, democracy, and customs and traditions of other countries as it considers it alien to their beliefs and way of life. It's like trying to mix oil with water.
 

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