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[aditya10r]

You little shit stained pig head bastard, you expect us to engage with you little bitches after you use terms like these? Get the fuck out and bang some madrassa women.

Just read his crap he just unloaded on this thread


You will die man

 

[Project Dharma]

Just read his crap he just unloaded on this thread


You will die man

We don't need asshats like him here, he and his kind always shit where they eat.

 

[SADAKHUSH]

Indeed, the reactions are amazing and hilarious most of the time. I love the adrenaline and testosterone build up in the anti Pak mental masturbation orgies they have here frequently but the climax is for us to enjoy when the show ends.

E.g. Modi tries to declare Masood a terrorist.
China slaps India.

Modi tries to persuade US to declare Pakistan a terrorist nation
US slaps Modi

Modi tries to find international support for Balochistan
US slaps India

Modi claims mysterious Sir G Cul strikes
World media slaps him

Modi starts his anti Pakistan tantrum at an economic summit, the BRICS 2016 Goa
Russia and China slap him.

We have seen it so many times that it isn't funny anymore. These mental masturbation is all they have, let them enjoy and watch the show.

It is not PM Modi's obsession with Pakistan rather Pakistan's obsession with India and Kashmir. China is keeping your dreams alive on Kashmir to keep USA influence away from your country and at the same time waiting for implosion in order to neutralize the terrorist training camp who one day can send them to their Muslim majority state Xinjiang. Whether my views become reality or not only time will tell. USA will not show their card on their policy about Balochistans future fate. Only time will reveal their real intensions on the region.

 

[SADAKHUSH]

Don't feed yourself with Indian propaganda and open your eyes. Look at your own contribution regarding Pakistan here. How much intellectual input, educated analysis aur guesses have you made sofar? You know shyt about Pakistan, just like an average troll.

India was never and will never be the center of the universe for us, nor a benchmark for development. We have come a long way in a hostile neighborhood and dealt with our demons. We are back on the right track but all you can do is use your petty excuses to acknowledge the progress.
Personally I don't mind, I come here from time to time for a good laugh.

All your demons are home grown who have you by your balls. You tried to coerce Afghanistan into submission by using Pakistani Taliban's and they have shown you the mirror as well. Your Army is robbing the nation by giving away land to their retired men in uniform and does not allow elected Government to function as per constitution of democratic nation. In the past only Balochistan has been fighting for freedom and I see in the future KPK will join for freedom as well. Once the Pathans make up their mind there is no turning back. So watch out as you have millions of Afghanistan's Pathans in your country as refugees. Once they rise against oppression situation will get out of control and lead to ultimate disintegration of so called Pakistan. I see four new countries being formed out of your Islamic Republic sooner or later.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Worth reading article if put aside pro Chinese bhai bhai sentiments.

Image Credit: Wikimedia Commons/ Umargondal
Is the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor a 21st Century East India Company?
A closer look at the hidden dangers CPEC could bring for Pakistan.

When a Pakistani lawmaker recently warned in Parliament that “another East India Company is in the offing” in the form of China-Pakistan Economic Corridor, he certainly raised some eyebrows. This view came from Senator Tahir Mashhadi, chairman of the Senate Standing Committee on Planning and Development, who specifically voiced concerns about the exorbitant loans Pakistan will need to pay back to China for CPEC. Mashhadi also objected to China’s demands regarding power tariffs on projects according to Chinese interests. Since the official discourse in Pakistan has presented CPEC in very rosy terms (often calling it a “game-changer”), the “East India Company” analogy merits a proper analysis.

To compare China’s role, within the context of CPEC project, with that of the British East India Company would be hyperbole, though not a totally discreditable argument. There cannot be exact parallels between both the cases. First of all, the method used by the East India Company (EIC) was entirely different. The EIC came to the subcontinent primarily with the intention of doing trade but usurped power through the brutal use of force, which the renowned British historian William Dalrymple described as “probably the most bloody episode in the entire history of British colonialism.” By contrast, China and Pakistan enjoy an exemplary friendship based on mutual trust and respect.

Second, the EIC was enticed by the fabled riches, wealth, and resources of this region. In other words, the subcontinent was by far more prosperous than the EIC. In case of China and Pakistan, the story is the other way around. As an economic power, China is second only to the United States and sits on the largest foreign exchange reserves in the world ($3.20 trillion). With Beijing’s deep pockets and passion for spending, economic ties with China are even prized by the wealthy countries of the West like Britain and Germany. On the other hand, Pakistan presents little, if any, economic attraction for foreign investments. Uncongenial security conditions, failing state institutions, and corruption are some of the many maladies that have dogged Pakistan and dissuaded others from investing in this country. Perhaps no other country would dare take the risk of investing so much money in Pakistan as China has ventured. Pakistan needs China more than the other way around.

Finally, Pakistan might be depending Chinese largesse at the moment, but it retains a fairly independent political and institutional structure. Consider just a few examples: NEPRA’s disapproval of Chinese investors’ demand for an increase in power tariffs; the Supreme Court’s rejection of a Chinese company’s plea to be allowed to participate in the bidding process for the Dasu hydro project, and a local court’s ruling barring a Chinese firm from controlling Sost dry port. Despite its preeminent position under CPEC, there is a limit to China’s influence and interests in Pakistan. Mughal emperors did not enjoy any of these advantages vis-a-vis the highly assertive EIC.

However, the obvious historical differences between EIC and CPEC don’t obviate the serious issues in arrangements for the CPEC. A lack of transparency regarding the terms and conditions and other financial details of CPEC projects has been the main source of concern. The situation is such that the governor of the State Bank of Pakistan stated, “I don’t know out of the $46 billion [in CPEC deals] how much is debt, how much is in equity, and how much is in kind.” He added that “CPEC needs to be more transparent.” Similarly, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) also has cautioned against the potentially unfavorable economic fallouts of CPEC.

Still the incumbent government is untiringly portraying the project as a “game-changer” and “fate-changer.” In fact, it has become convention for governments in Pakistan to undertake grandiose projects without proper financial justification. In the process, politicians, while sharing little of the burden, can adopt reckless economic policies that encumber the public exchequer.

The current government is no exception. It seems to be in too much of a rush to get the project completed within a specific time-frame that is neither achievable nor advisable. Even the intra-provincial consensus has been missing. Other provinces complain that CPEC projects are disproportionately focused on Punjab.

In a way, the Nawaz Sharif government’s approach toward CPEC is like the former Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapaksa’s attitude toward Chinese investment. Rajapaksa took billions of dollars in loans from China for projects in his own constituency, Hambantota, without bothering about the fact that

there was little commercial justification for them. To the dismay of the next (current) government in Colombo, the Chinese told Sri Lanka that, as Forbes put it, "We want our money, not your empty airport.” At the end of the day, Sri Lanka was left at the mercy of IMF loans to pay back China’s hefty loans. Interestingly, similar to CPEC, there was a lack of information about the interest rates on loans for Hambantota projects. Like CPEC, Hambantota is part of China’s Maritime Silk Road Strategy.

No doubt, CPEC has enormous potential to contribute to Pakistan’s economy. Pakistan needs China more than ever. At the same time, China has both the capacity and necessity to count on its “all-weather” friend. But these facts should not be allowed to overshadow the ground realities. Both countries should bear in mind that this is the first time they are coming so close at a practical level. The policies of one country can have a direct bearing on the other. As a matter of fact, there should be a balance of interests so that the position of either party is not compromised.

As far Pakistan is concerned, to avoid any situation like the Hambantota debacle, the government needs to adopt an economically sound and politically pragmatic approach toward CPEC. Pakistan has to overcome its propensity for overselling the China card. Rather than keeping things in dark, all the arrangements related to this project have to be based on solid financial and economic footings. Otherwise, this enduring friendship could be affected by the ensuing recriminations and mistrust between the people of two countries.

Abdur Rehman Shah is a Research Associate at the Center for Research and Security Studies (CRSS), Islamabad.

 

[aditya10r]

Worth reading article if put aside pro Chinese bhai bhai sentiments.

Image Credit: Wikimedia Commons/ Umargondal
Is the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor a 21st Century East India Company?
A closer look at the hidden dangers CPEC could bring for Pakistan.







Abdur Rehman Shah is a Research Associate at the Center for Research and Security Studies (CRSS), Islamabad.

Any doubts?????????????????......................

 

[republic_roi97]

How is the worlds largest mass blinding campaign coming? How many Kashmiri's do you want to kill for their resources?

For your kind information, majority of muslim population is concentrated in the valley and over the surrounding mountains, apart from the valley, on what basis are you claiming Jammu region and Leh Laddakh that is majority Hindu and partly Buddhist ??????

What resources does kashmir has to offer apart from a few dams for electricity for just Kashmiris. Comparative to Balochistan, Kashmir is just a 8x10 plot of land inform of a valley that is useless. On the other hand, Balochistan is full of natural resources like natural gas, maybe petroleum etc. No comparison to what you fake arabians are doing to balochis, treating them like trash, killing them and then throwing from helicopters. Pathetic bunch of losers is what you guys are.

The world knows what you are doing in Balochistan and we will break Pakistan in 4 parts before you get over with the genocide of Balochi people. Just like we did with East and West Pakistan.

 

[amoy]

CPEC's concept of 'one corridor with multiple passages' realized: Chinese envoy
Meanwhile, with the loading of the last container onto the COSCO Wellington cargo vessel, Gwadar port also marked its first export of a large number of containers to overseas destinations, showing that the port has restored the designed handling capacity.

According to pics Gwadar Port is well guarded.

 

[republic_roi97]

According to pics Gwadar Port is well guarded.

We'll see about that in future. Unless chinese send in thousands of troops to be deployed all along CPEC, I don't think that either gwadar or entire CPEC would be safe at all.
Well I am happy, because finally, chinese have started consuming Pakistan and would definitely start its economic and strategic erosion and ultimately a Pakistani Autonomous Region would be formed in future, which would be in control of PRC.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

We'll see about that in future. Unless chinese send in thousands of troops to be deployed all along CPEC, I don't think that either gwadar or entire CPEC would be safe at all.
Well I am happy, because finally, chinese have started consuming Pakistan and would definitely start its economic and strategic erosion and ultimately a Pakistani Autonomous Region would be formed in future, which would be in control of PRC.

Nothing to be happy.
PLA Navy is coming in our backyard. It doesn't only provide Pakistan cover against other 1971 like attempt by India but will create huge threat for our western coasts.

India has ramped up Naval Strength in Eastern Coast but China came from western coast through Pakistan, Navy will need to make another base bear Mumbai or Daman & Diu like INS Varsha in Vizag.

India's geographical shape makes defending it a headache and more difficult.

 

[amoy]

We'll see about that in future. Unless chinese send in thousands of troops to be deployed all along CPEC, I don't think that either gwadar or entire CPEC would be safe at all.
Well I am happy, because finally, chinese have started consuming Pakistan and would definitely start its economic and strategic erosion and ultimately a Pakistani Autonomous Region would be formed in future, which would be in control of PRC.

Safety: Pakistan is working on it. Development is the best answer to intimidation.

Economic and strategic erosion: How? On the contrary, the port + CPEC gateway enhances its strategic importance. I'll give u two cases below. Pls advise how Chna will take over control of UAE or Greece by investing in infrastructures. How would development discount their sovereignty?

The same COSCO that just called Gwadar Port.

Abu Dhabi Ports inks deal with China’s COSCO SHIPPING Corporation
September 30, 2016

Sept 30, 2016: Abu Dhabi Ports signed container terminal concession agreement with China’s COSCO SHIPPING Corporation to operate Khalifa Port Container Terminal 2 in Khalifa Port for a span of 35 years, with a renewable period of 5 additional years.

China's COSCO completes Piraeus port authority takeover
AFPAugust 11, 2016

COSCO, through its Piraeus Container Terminal (PCT) arm, already manages the two main container terminals at the port -- one of Europe's busiest -- under a 35-year concession signed in 2008.

Now it has control of the port, including its passenger ferry functions used by millions of tourists every year heading for the picturesque Greek islands.

COSCO has pledged to invest nearly 294 million euros ($326 million) to expand cruise facilities, upgrade the dockyard and create car space.

The company wants to turn Piraeus into the largest container port in Europe and the world's main cruise departure hub.

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It's a win-win! The whole world - I mean Arabians and Greeks, embrace Chinese money. And Chinese ODI is pursuing sustainable returns. Indians should not be blinded by their hostility to Chinese. Your accusation of "Autonomous Region" is like saying Modi is about to sell India to Japan by attracting Japanese investment. That sounds no more than delirium.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Modi is about to sell India to Japan by attracting Japanese investment.

There's no way this all can be compared to Japan. Otherwise, before India got ahead, China used to be world's largest FDI Recipient. Gwadar is definitely meant for presence of PLA. This isn't just about investment, it's about security.

And before you compare it to LEMoA, let me remind that it's applicable for both sides; US and India.

Over that, neither Japan is as Strong nation as China, nor India is as helpless and geopolitically weak as Pakistan is.

 

[amoy]

There's no way this all can be compared to Japan. Otherwise, before India got ahead, China used to be world's largest FDI Recipient. Gwadar is definitely meant for presence of PLA. This isn't just about investment, it's about security.

And before you compare it to LEMoA, let me remind that it's applicable for both sides; US and India.

Over that, neither Japan is as Strong nation as China, nor India is as helpless and geopolitically weak as Pakistan is.

Even PLA presence is no bogeyman for India. U're okay with USN in Diego Garcia at the doorstep. And US has military presence in Japan, Korea, Singapore, Saudi, Estonia, Germany... They're all fine. And neighboring China and Russia are also cool.

The trauma of insecurity... just because of lack of self-confidence, or not adapting to the new normal.

India is also able to make presence in Vietnam or Japan, and is doing so now. What China can react, is just swallowing her pride. Nothing more.

Donald Trump IMO is going to mellow down his tone not to push China and Russia too hard. So, India should not pin that much hope on US.

Gwadar is no big deal. What is ahead is getting Iran (an oil producer and regional giant) also aboard - a real game changer.

China willing to finance Pakistan’s portion of IP pipeline
China to build mega oil pipeline from Gwadar to Kashgar

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Even PLA presence is no bogeyman for India. U're okay with USN in Diego Garcia at the doorstep. And US has military presence in Japan, Korea, Singapore, Saudi, Estonia, Germany... They're all fine. And neighboring China and Russia are also cool.

We are cool because it's now a point of Indo US joint exercise. There was a time when it used to strain India's relations with west due to presence of US and UK in past, I hope you know.

The trauma of insecurity... just because of lack of self-confidence, or not adapting to the new normal.

Means joint Sino Russian protests against THAAD was also lack of self confidence?
Every country floats in SCS or even when conducts any exercise anywhere near, look at PRC's confidence.

India is also able to make presence in Vietnam or Japan, and is doing so now. What China can react, is just swallowing her pride. Nothing more.

You know, I can quote official mouthpieces of CPC right here.
Plus if you meant any materializes reaction didn't occur, my friend India also just did concerns from mouth. It didn't invade Gwadar or CPEC.

Donald Trump IMO is going to mellow down his tone not to push China and Russia too hard. So, India should not pin that much hope on US.

Too much in fashion.
This has become standard Chinese response to Indians on every forum.

As an Indian, even I would love to know what sort of hopes. I don't think we are hoping US to declare war on China or put it's all arms to us.
US is mere a shield to protect ourselves in the shadow of China till Indian Economy and Military gets that level.

Gwadar is no big deal. What is ahead is getting Iran (an oil producer and regional giant) also aboard is a real game changer.

Economic Issue, my comment isn't necessary. Though Pakistanis may disagree on your this line. Specially, Ahsan Faruqui.

 

[airtel]

Even PLA presence is no bogeyman for India. U're okay with USN in Diego Garcia at the doorstep. And US has military presence in Japan, Korea, Singapore, Saudi, Estonia, Germany... They're all fine. And neighboring China and Russia are also cool.

The trauma of insecurity... just because of lack of self-confidence, or not adapting to the new normal.

Donald Trump IMO is going to mellow down his tone not to push China and Russia too hard. So, India should not pin that much hope on US.

USA has Bases in all those countries even before India's Independence & according to Lemoa we can use those Bases too (With permission of USA )............ & we have Hopes from Indian Armed forces Instead of USA .

Gwadar is no big deal. What is ahead is getting Iran (an oil producer and regional giant) also aboard - a real game changer.



China willing to finance Pakistan’s portion of IP pipeline
China to build mega oil pipeline from Gwadar to Kashgar

misleading headline ........china will not invest in Pakistaan but provide loans .....

& what Game changer ?? Balochistaan is also an oil producer ..................getting Iran means now UAE & Saudi Arabia will disturb Pakistaan .........90% pakistaani are sunnis .....all the Jehadi Groups are sunnis ...............it will be very easy for saudis to create Civil wars in Pakistaan .

India is also able to make presence in Vietnam or Japan, and is doing so now. What China can react, is just swallowing her pride. Nothing more.

India started doing that as a reaction of china's string of pearls strategy , you started first , your country provided Nukes to pakistaan , chines have illegally occupied Indian territory since 1962

 

[Indx TechStyle]

misleading headline ........china will not invest in Pakistaan but provide loans .....

$34 billions investments and rest loans if I'm not wrong @amoy.
Can't say about that additional $20-30 billions mentioned somewhere for infra.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

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[Indx TechStyle]

Though, I promised not to troll but a little feast of funny comments from other side of LoC are not bad.

There's a pathetic member with username of a pathetic organization, giving us condolonces to us. I hope me and you guys have taken those condolences.:biggrin2:

I got through economic section. At once, I counted Allahu akabr 17 times and 32 times inshallha. Then, I stopped counting.
These are few, many more hilarious replies are there.

I can conclude from comments of these moron keyboard warriors that either Allah has taken avatar of China to help them or China has replaced Allah for them.

 

[airtel]

it is High time , India should send Maoists (who are surrendering ) to provide training about " Land Mines " to Baloch freedom Fighters .

 

[aditya10r]

Though, I promised not to troll but a little feast of funny comments from other side of LoC are not bad.
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There's a pathetic member with username of a pathetic organization, giving us condolonces to us. I hope me and you guys have taken those condolences.:biggrin2:
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I got through economic section. At once, I counted Allahu akabr 17 times and 32 times inshallha. Then, I stopped counting.
These are few, many more hilarious replies are there.

I can conclude from comments of these moron keyboard warriors that either Allah has taken avatar of China to help them or China has replaced Allah for them.

Link bhejo Bhaiya.................................................