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China, Pakistan Sign Six Memorandums of Understanding to Enhance Bilateral Ties

13.05.2017

China and Pakistan signed a total of six Memorandums of Understanding related to cooperation within the framework of the Silk Road Economic Belt and Maritime Silk Road, as well as to cooperation on a number of projects, such as Gwadar port and East Bay expressway and Havelian Dry Port and ML1 Karachi-Peshawar railway project.

MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Chinese and Pakistani ministers signed a total of six Memorandums of Understanding on Saturday to improve economic relations between the two Asian nations and to implement joint projects, local media reported.

According to the Daily Pakistan Global, the signing ceremony was attended by Chinese Prime Minister Li Keqiang and his Pakistani counterpart Nawaz Sharif.

The memorandums are related to cooperation within the framework of the Silk Road Economic Belt and Maritime Silk Road, as well as to cooperation on a number of projects, such as Gwadar port and East Bay expressway and Havelian Dry Port and ML1 Karachi-Peshawar railway project.

The Memorandums were signed during the visit of the Pakistani delegation headed by Sharif to China in order to attend the Belt and Road Forum for International Cooperation in China on May 14-15.

https://sputniknews.com/asia/201705131053575707-china-pakistan-memorandum-understanding/

CPEC might bring the Chinese economy down since the projects are not in Allied interests. I assume chinese do not want to be a part of the Allied agenda anymore overtly, forget covert ops since its become a joke in the higher circle. After the development completes its course we will find the entire belt rotton and without any future prospects. Further viewing will only reveal how an upright country without any enemies was pulled into the frey by the underground Axis and forced to commit political suicide on a world scale, this comes after the Nalanda massacre of the close history between India and China. To save our old friend, we need to put the mental welfare of the Chinese people first or have a suicidal Jap demeanor poured over them. We can easily have an eco - coridor with Russia and China, leaving ISIS (Pakistan is part of ISIS - confirmed) agenda out on our own. Also, we are more advanced then the middle east and have a great history to pull our own weight with knowledge based on self enhancement.

 

[raja696]

Actually on the contrary choosing hillary or trump makes no difference to Indians. Hillary being pro pak en trump being stupid. Its like choosing saw vs axe.... both are pia in foreign diplomacy. Enjoy the show

 

[PSYOP]

China will have imports of beef and LNG from the US, while US will settles to apply the same bank sagacious superintendent and supervisory standards to Chinese banking institutions as USA has given to other foreign banking institutions, which is national interest of USA concerning their national and foreign policy. So, win-win situation for all, excluding India.

 

[bose]

China will have imports of beef and LNG from the US, while US will settles to apply the same bank sagacious superintendent and supervisory standards to Chinese banking institutions as USA has given to other foreign banking institutions, which is national interest of USA concerning their national and foreign policy. So, win-win situation for all, excluding India.

What about Pakistan ? For how much will it sell itself ?

 

[bose]

There will be another U-turn followed by another U-turn ... This will not first nor the last...

Where are the TRUMP lovers gone !!

 

[PSYOP]

What about Pakistan ? For how much will it sell itself ?

All these influences and occurrences are clearly an indication of how India’s abandonment of Russia has not only cost India an old and trusted friend but also put India in a simulated isolation with Pakistan, China, and Russia. India now leftovers a bit dissociated from the major powers of the region while also being dependent on smaller economic powers like Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Nepal and Sri Lanka which are totally their selves dependent on foreign aids and investment’s. While the US was the only dynamo that couldn’t stand also with India from this isolation point of view to not join or show interest in CPEC, even the US later showed up interest and later desired to take part in CPEC, where is India standing? On isolation point from the rest of world and neighbors? Or associating it with small neighbors who are too dependent on foreign neighbors?

 

[PSYOP]

There will be another U-turn followed by another U-turn ... This will not first nor the last...

Where are the TRUMP lovers gone !!

Donald Trump is a good businessman, and now he is also countries’ president and he knows well that how to run foreign policies regarding national interests keeping aside, while looking at the same time these interests are good for nation or not? Meantime, looking into intensely through business perspectives. And, U-turn from trump’s business administration shows, this decision to show interest and join CPEC, for US “national interests goes through profits not pro countries”.

 

[amoy]

China will have imports of beef and LNG from the US, while US will settles to apply the same bank sagacious superintendent and supervisory standards to Chinese banking institutions as USA has given to other foreign banking institutions, which is national interest of USA concerning their national and foreign policy. So, win-win situation for all, excluding India.

Indeed, Trump serves US Corporate interest (= national interest), not China nor India. Trump did make Chinese make big concessions - 100-day action plan is to be expanded to a 1-year plan.

Nothing new!

By the way some benefits for others (Chinese in this case) . Chinese will cheaper beef (beating Austrialian beef).

 

[bose]

All these influences and occurrences are clearly an indication of how India’s abandonment of Russia has not only cost India an old and trusted friend but also put India in a simulated isolation with Pakistan, China, and Russia. India now leftovers a bit dissociated from the major powers of the region while also being dependent on smaller economic powers like Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Nepal and Sri Lanka which are totally their selves dependent on foreign aids and investment’s. While the US was the only dynamo that couldn’t stand also with India from this isolation point of view to not join or show interest in CPEC, even the US later showed up interest and later desired to take part in CPEC, where is India standing? On isolation point from the rest of world and neighbors? Or associating it with small neighbors who are too dependent on foreign neighbors?

Man !! your post is too scary !! my legs are shivering !!

CPEC or whatever you call it is a disaster !! only because it involves Pakistanis who sell their mother for as much as $10, Americans says it, not Indians... Useless Pakistanis will ensure that CPEC is a disaster ... China will lose its money...

Russia needs India more than India needs Russia ... Those Billions of $$$ will go to other who is willing to invest in India... Russia is loose all the contracts for 10 or 12 nuclear power plant... Do you think that Russians are so stupid ? We Indians respect Russians a lot for what they have done for us and we will every be friends in future... but ... but both will look for their own national interests ... both knows and respect each others decisions... There nothing for Pakistan to jump up & down for... How many times Putin has visited Pakistan ??? ask yourself ??

Now coming to India... Indian is going to be fourth largest economy in the world in another couple of years with the current growth rate that has all the sign to accelerate to 8 % to 9 % ... On the contrary India will keep out China from participating in India's growth and that will pinch China in its backside when they see Japan beating China in billions of $$ in infrastructure development in India...

India can not be isolated !! the reason is very simple ... It is fastest growing economy !! and sheer size of it economy...

A friendly suggestion ...you read too much of third rate Pakistani & Chinese propaganda ... try something else for a change...

 

[raja696]

China will have imports of beef and LNG from the US, while US will settles to apply the same bank sagacious superintendent and supervisory standards to Chinese banking institutions as USA has given to other foreign banking institutions, which is national interest of USA concerning their national and foreign policy. So, win-win situation for all, excluding India.

China vs usa friendly relations is always a catch of ones debt vs anothers concern of devaluation of dollars.

Real issue is north korea for usa. Thats y china is engaged by usa . You know India doesnt need to engage isreal, russians for support. It just need to call south korea, Vietnam for little talk to pressurise americans. Thats all required back home hillary supporters will keep trump on his toes lol.

As far as pakistan is concerned its just betchhhhh with couple of more customers in que.

Remember when bullets rain all investors (countries )know how to shove them in pakis a$$$

 

[bose]

Donald Trump is a good businessman, and now he is also countries’ president and he knows well that how to run foreign policies regarding national interests keeping aside, while looking at the same time these interests are good for nation or not? Meantime, looking into intensely through business perspectives. And, U-turn from trump’s business administration shows, this decision to show interest and join CPEC, for US “national interests goes through profits not pro countries”.

U-turn from Tramp will ruin him and US more than India...

India has always followed its national interest ... waiting for another U-turn from Tramp when he see the Indian accelerating economy...

 

[PSYOP]

U-turn from Tramp will ruin him and US more than India...

India has always followed its national interest ... waiting for another U-turn from Tramp when he see the Indian accelerating economy...

If India is not isolated, then please provide the answers of these following questions:

Then why India, which views China as a threat to its key role in the region, has been looking for new allies in the region to counter Beijing’s rising influence?

After enjoying a decades-long friendship with its major and most dependable ally,Russia, today no official in Indian leadership can be certain of the strength of their ties with Russia anymore. One can argue that India should blame its own policies and particularly its decision to seek closer ties with the United States – Russia’s traditional rival – for losing Moscow’s support?

Why Russia reacted to India’s shift toward the U.S. almost immediately? And has followed closer ties with India’s old-style enemy, (Us) Pakistan, despite eras of cold relations between Islamabad and Moscow since the Cold War era?

At the end of the issue, are India-U.S. ties. While the U.S. seems hell-bent on supporting India to counter China’s growing influence in the region, despite then why USA took U-turn and showed interest to join CPEC?


My answers are simply accessible in these questions, only wants your opinions.

 

[Project Dharma]

After enjoying a decades-long friendship with its major and most dependable ally,Russia, today no official in Indian leadership can be certain of the strength of their ties with Russia anymore. One can argue that India should blame its own policies and particularly its decision to seek closer ties with the United States – Russia’s traditional rival – for losing Moscow’s support?

Because Moscow's support doesn't matter to India anymore? The thinking is that build a robust economy and the world will beat a path to your door.

Why Russia reacted to India’s shift toward the U.S. almost immediately? And has followed closer ties with India’s old-style enemy, (Us) Pakistan, despite eras of cold relations between Islamabad and Moscow since the Cold War era?

Because they are dismayed at the loss of major business selling second world technology and now see you guys as a potential market?

At the end of the issue, are India-U.S. ties. While the U.S. seems hell-bent on supporting India to counter China’s growing influence in the region, despite then why USA took U-turn and showed interest to join CPEC?

Because it is not a zero sum game? Pakistan's is a nuclear country which has been swirling down the toilet slowly, the USA doesn't want it to go out and arm some radical Islamic terrorists with nukes in the process. So anything that contributes to Paki stability, they will help out because you have successfully held the whole world hostage, congratulations for that.

My answers are simply accessible in these questions, only wants your opinions.

Na, the answers are pretty obvious to anybody with a modicum of intelligence. You want to provoke a reaction and start a troll war or you aren't the brightest crayon in the box.

 

[Project Dharma]

It's not that he made just anti-Muslim statements, but he went and wooed the Hindu American Foundation who hailed him. To be fair, Hillary would have been worse, so we are between a rock and a hard place.

Check this : https://www.hafsite.org/haf-welcomes-engaging-trump-administration-hindu-american-policy-concerns

The gloves are off now.

I saw these pictures on Stormfront, the reaction from the racist alt-right was "Street shitters know and acknowledge which race is superior".

And a while back I was being hounded by people on this forum for not supporting Trump.

 

[IndianHawk]

Then why India, which views China as a threat to its key role in the region, has been looking for new allies in the region to counter Beijing’s rising influence?

What a moronic question. US too is looking an alliance with India to counter china. So now you would say US is isolated

Russia’s traditional rival – for losing Moscow’s support?

Moscow always provide us with arms overpriced and without maintainance. It is still providing the same . So what exactly did we loss. Anyway we mostly needed Moscow by our side to counter USA , now if USA is willing to forge an alliance it is Moscow problem to keep India happy.
India is the bigger economy Russia is smaller. Wrap your head around that.

despite then why USA took U-turn and showed interest to join CPEC?

Because at this stage US has nothing to loose.

 

[PSYOP]

USA arch-rival enemies like Russia and Iran are joining CPEC, and three of them having no issues on either of side complaining about why they are joining in CPEC group, and they also like to thanks Pakistan (us) to bring three enemies into one single bench of a table where they would exchange goods and services, so we have provided platform of investment’s and it’s a really game changer for Pakistan.

While, India still remains stuck on this point that China is encircling India in Indian ocean and on western side, and not considering this fact that USA-Russia-Iran, siding their differences willing to join and showing interests in CPEC, while india still thinks more about enemies in 21’st century rather than shift focus on regional connectivity of “ one belt one road”

 

[Cutting Edge 2]

This is nothing but colossal foreign policy failure from Modi. Doing road shows in foreign countries means nothing when you have no substantial longterm outlook on foreign relations backed by economy and trade.

US is the biggest backstabbing country ever. We were warned many times not to trust USA but Modi went out of his way and put all eggs in American basket. Now we are facing the results. Because of this Russia has been alienated and moved closer to Pakistan.

Trump didn't just dump us for China but also destroyed our IT industry. With crippled IT there is no way we can achieve big GDP numbers. In other words US has unofficially put sanctions on Indian economy.

The whole world stands with China on OBOR including USA, Japan, S Korea Where do we stand? Isolated.
While our aggressive neighbour is signing big trade deals with China our economy is looking at a slowdown and we have no world power on our side. Tough times ahead.

 

[Akshay_Fenix]

This is nothing but colossal foreign policy failure from Modi. Doing road shows in foreign countries means nothing when you have no substantial longterm outlook on foreign relations backed by economy and trade.

US is the biggest backstabbing country ever. We were warned many times not to trust USA but Modi went out of his way and put all eggs in American basket. Now we are facing the results. Because of this Russia has been alienated and moved closer to Pakistan.

Trump didn't just dump us for China but also destroyed our IT industry. With crippled IT there is no way we can achieve big GDP numbers. In other words US has unofficially put sanctions on Indian economy.

The whole world stands with China on OBOR including USA, Japan, S Korea Where do we stand? Isolated.
While our aggressive neighbour is signing big trade deals with China our economy is looking at a slowdown and we have no world power on our side. Tough times ahead.

Blame modi for everything gang.

 

[bose]

If India is not isolated, then please provide the answers of these following questions:

One cannot simply isolate a soon to be fourth largest economy !! It is a $ 2.5 Trillion economy and has growing fast and furious ... it has overtaken China as new growth engine for the world with 1.25 Billion people with 500 million young people ready to work for growth of Indian economy... we now get more FDI than China ... this shows that there is more confidence in India than anywhere else...

Do you understand this ??

Then why India, which views China as a threat to its key role in the region, has been looking for new allies in the region to counter Beijing’s rising influence?

China is not only a threat to India but to all its neighbors, you name it, China has problem with all its neighbors be it India, Vietnam, Philippines, Japan, South Korea, Indonesia and the new entrant is Bhutan..

India will not allow China a free run and will counter it in everywhere ... whatever it takes... India nor forgets nor forgive any anyone that has played against India's national interest...

India will never forgive China for its role in clandestine supply of nuclear and missile tech to Pakistan... India has border dispute with China that required settlement to India's satisfaction...

After enjoying a decades-long friendship with its major and most dependable ally,Russia, today no official in Indian leadership can be certain of the strength of their ties with Russia anymore. One can argue that India should blame its own policies and particularly its decision to seek closer ties with the United States – Russia’s traditional rival – for losing Moscow’s support?

on the bold part... who told you so ?? are you privy to some sensitive information that others do not ??

Indian policies are ONLY for Indian national interest and if it hurts others nothing can be done... as simple as that... Indian and US relationship are required to meet threat from neo fascist China that is hell bent upon stealing land from all it neighbors .

As I have posted earlier India and Russia are mature nations and they understand each others policies well ... India understand that Russia's whatever predicaments needs to sit upon China's lap... India is fine with it as long as Russia appreciate India's thinking that is good for its national interest...

Why Russia reacted to India’s shift toward the U.S. almost immediately? And has followed closer ties with India’s old-style enemy, (Us) Pakistan, despite eras of cold relations between Islamabad and Moscow since the Cold War era?

It will be childish on the part of Russia to react on India - US strategic relationship as they are not directed towards Russia, but to fascist China's ill intention towards Asia and South China Seas [SCS].

There is nothing Russia gains from relationship with Pakistan ... Pakistan has nor the economy nor money to purchase anything from Russia ... where as India will pay full in cash [ if requited] to Russia ... Russia will lose all the contracts from India in billion of dollars... Why will Russia do that ?? answer me now ??

Russia is a very good friend of India has all the reason to question Indian decisions, we Indians will sit patiently with Russians and explain it all to them...

You have no idea of the goodwill and respect we have for Russians ... that will not go so easily...

At the end of the issue, are India-U.S. ties. While the U.S. seems hell-bent on supporting India to counter China’s growing influence in the region, despite then why USA took U-turn and showed interest to join CPEC?


My answers are simply accessible in these questions, only wants your opinions.

India WILL ONLY DO WHAT is in India;s interests ... if it is in India's interest to align with US to counter fascist China SO BE IT !!!

On US u-turn ... the Americans may have thought it is good for them to join CPEC... let them join where is the problem ?? why will India bother ?? India will not join CPEC because it passes over illegally occupied Indian territory POK [Pakistan Occupied Kashmir] ...

Americans will do that is good for their national interests and Indian will do that is good for their national interests...

 

[bose]

This is nothing but colossal foreign policy failure from Modi. Doing road shows in foreign countries means nothing when you have no substantial longterm outlook on foreign relations backed by economy and trade.

US is the biggest backstabbing country ever. We were warned many times not to trust USA but Modi went out of his way and put all eggs in American basket. Now we are facing the results. Because of this Russia has been alienated and moved closer to Pakistan.

Trump didn't just dump us for China but also destroyed our IT industry. With crippled IT there is no way we can achieve big GDP numbers. In other words US has unofficially put sanctions on Indian economy.

The whole world stands with China on OBOR including USA, Japan, S Korea Where do we stand? Isolated.
While our aggressive neighbour is signing big trade deals with China our economy is looking at a slowdown and we have no world power on our side. Tough times ahead.

brother , you are too pessimistic !! all love money ... they will all come to India to get a pie of the rising economy [ except China will be kept out] ...