New Russian single engine fighter jet

[standard snowball]

Sukhoi 30 kind of deal

Wait, what was wrong in the su 30 deal

 

[WolfPack86]

Su-75: Why India is the only ray of hope for Russia’s ‘Checkmate’ 5th-gen fighter | WION Game Plan

 

[Johny_Baba]

Su-75: Why India is the only ray of hope for Russia’s ‘Checkmate’ 5th-gen fighter | WION Game Plan

Fool me one, shame on you
Fool me twice, shame on me

after Su-50 PAKFA to FGFA charade and Izdeliye-30 engine just becoming reality after long time, and barely 20 some that ever got produced they want to pitch this Su-75 to us again in name of muh fifth gen stealth jet hurr durr?

 

[blackjack]

cant beat a 25–35-million-dollar deal for each aircraft with interchangeable avionics suited for whatever needs are needed, one seat, 2 seat or a drone.

They got another engine facility going as well. ОДК завершила подготовку к строительству нового производственного комплекса в Москве (rostec.ru)

The Rostec United Engine Corporation has completed preparatory work for the construction of a new industrial complex, which will produce aircraft engine parts for aircraft and helicopters. A modern industrial complex of buildings with a total area of more than 77 thousand square meters. m will unite under one roof the enterprises of MMP named after V.V. Chernyshev, Salyut PC and the Center for Additive Technologies of Rostec State Corporation.

On the territory of the Salyut production complex on Budyonny Avenue in Moscow, where new facilities will be built, the old buildings have already been dismantled, the areas have been cleared and prepared, and engineering work is underway.

“Now the design and estimate documentation has been developed, the appearance of all new construction projects on the territory of our enterprise has been agreed. Tender procedures have been completed to identify contractors for construction work. In the near future, we expect to receive a construction permit in accordance with the established regulations for three facilities: the competence centers "Gearboxes and Assemblies", "Helicopter Engine Compressor" and the Center for Additive Technologies. The complex will become one of the largest centers of engine building, where about 13,000 people will work,” said Alexei Gromov, head of the Salyut production complex of the UEC.

Labor collectives of two UEC enterprises: MMP named after V.V. Chernysheva and PK Salyut will continue to work in close cooperation in the production of gas turbine engine parts for helicopters and aircraft at the new facility, retaining their identity and names. Relocation of MMP named after V.V. Chernyshev will take place in stages until 2025, by which time it is planned to put into operation all the main buildings of the new site. However, even after that, UEC plans to additionally recruit new employees.

A separate production building will be erected at the enterprise for the center of technological competence "Gearboxes and assemblies", as well as sections for mechanical and chemical-thermal processing of parts. It will produce transmission units for a wide range of aircraft engines PD-14, PD-8, VK-650V, VK-1600V, AI-222-25, power plants of the TV7-117 family.

In the new building of the Helicopter Engine Compressor technological competence center, it is planned to mass-produce units for turboshaft engines of the VK-2500 and TV7-117 families, as well as VK-650V, VK-1600V.

The new five-story building is intended for the Center for Additive Technologies, which will develop models for 3D printing, as well as produce serial parts for aircraft engines using the additive method.

Or the deal puts fear in this forum of India pulling a turkey on 5th gen development?

 

[JaguarWarrior]

I think China may be interested in Su-75 as possible replacement of J-10 in the future.

 

[blackjack]

 

[blackjack]

Russia discusses cooperation on Checkmate project with foreign customers — FSCTC - Military & Defense - TASS

Russia discusses cooperation on Checkmate project with foreign customers — FSCTC
According to Dmitry Shugaev, Checkmate has a certain way to go before becoming an export product, although its competitiveness is already obvious

PATRIOT PARK /Moscow region/, August 16. /TASS/. Russia’s Federal Service for Military and Technical Cooperation (FSCTC) is holding consultations with some foreign customers on cooperation as part of the Checkmate light tactical aircraft project. Director of FSCTC Dmitry Shugayev said this talking to TASS.
"I am not ready to say yet who will be the first Checkmate customer. Potential Checkmate customers are located on different continents, in different regions of the world. I can only confirm that consultations are currently underway with some foreign customers on cooperation within the Checkmate project," Shugaev said noting that cooperation involves not only the supply of the aircraft themselves, but also technological cooperation.
According to Shugaev, Checkmate has a certain way to go before becoming an export product, although its competitiveness is already obvious.
"Taking into account the expected competitive price, I believe that it will be in demand in its segment," the head of the FSCTC said.

The light tactical fighter Checkmate developed by the Sukhoi Company (part of the United Aircraft Corporation within Rostec) was for the first time presented to the public at MAKS 2021 airshow. Its foreign debut took place at Dubai Airshow 2021 in the United Arab Emirates. The Checkmate incorporates the latest technical solutions, open architecture, and unique artificial intelligence technologies. It is a stealth aircraft with an internal compartment for air-to-air and air-to-surface weapons. The payload exceeds seven tons. The jet can destroy six targets at a time. It will be able to fly at Mach 1.8 and will have a combat radius of 3,000 km.
The Army-2023 International Military-Technical Forum is taking place at the Patriot Congress and Exhibition Center, the Alabino shooting range and the Kubinka airfield on August 14-20. The event is being organized by the Russian Defense Ministry. TASS serves as its strategic media partner.

 

[Tshering22]

Russia discusses cooperation on Checkmate project with foreign customers — FSCTC - Military & Defense - TASS

Russia discusses cooperation on Checkmate project with foreign customers — FSCTC
According to Dmitry Shugaev, Checkmate has a certain way to go before becoming an export product, although its competitiveness is already obvious

PATRIOT PARK /Moscow region/, August 16. /TASS/. Russia’s Federal Service for Military and Technical Cooperation (FSCTC) is holding consultations with some foreign customers on cooperation as part of the Checkmate light tactical aircraft project. Director of FSCTC Dmitry Shugayev said this talking to TASS.
"I am not ready to say yet who will be the first Checkmate customer. Potential Checkmate customers are located on different continents, in different regions of the world. I can only confirm that consultations are currently underway with some foreign customers on cooperation within the Checkmate project," Shugaev said noting that cooperation involves not only the supply of the aircraft themselves, but also technological cooperation.
According to Shugaev, Checkmate has a certain way to go before becoming an export product, although its competitiveness is already obvious.
"Taking into account the expected competitive price, I believe that it will be in demand in its segment," the head of the FSCTC said.

The light tactical fighter Checkmate developed by the Sukhoi Company (part of the United Aircraft Corporation within Rostec) was for the first time presented to the public at MAKS 2021 airshow. Its foreign debut took place at Dubai Airshow 2021 in the United Arab Emirates. The Checkmate incorporates the latest technical solutions, open architecture, and unique artificial intelligence technologies. It is a stealth aircraft with an internal compartment for air-to-air and air-to-surface weapons. The payload exceeds seven tons. The jet can destroy six targets at a time. It will be able to fly at Mach 1.8 and will have a combat radius of 3,000 km.
The Army-2023 International Military-Technical Forum is taking place at the Patriot Congress and Exhibition Center, the Alabino shooting range and the Kubinka airfield on August 14-20. The event is being organized by the Russian Defense Ministry. TASS serves as its strategic media partner.

The overhaul cycles on Russian jets is way too short even with the latest improvements. The IAF has always had higher operating costs not due to the platform itself but due to the maintenance that it requires. Su-30 MKI was a success only after it was de-russified in as many ways as possible including avionics, EW and sub-components.

Su-75 making it to the IAF is impossible as the IAF has officially stated that they are backing the AMCA. At best, the Russians can join our leave and propose any improvements if required. But that would put the AMCA at the risk of sanctions given that we still indicatively have dependencies on the West.

 

[omaebakabaka]

The overhaul cycles on Russian jets is way too short even with the latest improvements. The IAF has always had higher operating costs not due to the platform itself but due to the maintenance that it requires. Su-30 MKI was a success only after it was de-russified in as many ways as possible including avionics, EW and sub-components.

Su-75 making it to the IAF is impossible as the IAF has officially stated that they are backing the AMCA. At best, the Russians can join our leave and propose any improvements if required. But that would put the AMCA at the risk of sanctions given that we still indicatively have dependencies on the West.

We seem to bitch a lot about this or that....either we are dumb customer or unable to afford good stuff. Russian equipment is proving how shitty hyped up trinkle laden western equipment is in Ukraine....may be its still worth buying their less than stellar engines than getting blackmailed buying western stuff when shit hits the fan. France is no different now, its a cuckolded country. India just needs to get on with making it inhouse even if its one to 2 gen behind....not everything is bad as look at the sorty rates of SU -25 or ka-52s and so on....not even western ones keep up from what I read. But west does have good engines and their civilian versions definietely contribute towards this reliability.

 

[Tshering22]

We seem to bitch a lot about this or that....either we are dumb customer or unable to afford good stuff. Russian equipment is proving how shitty hyped up trinkle-laden western equipment is in Ukraine....may be its still worth buying their less than stellar engines than getting blackmailed buying western stuff when shit hits the fan

No one is talking about the current and past inventory.

Russian weapons helped us win wars and dismantle the US-UK narrative that they are invincible and are still potent platforms in the hands of a well-trained force. But it has been established that defence equipment from Russia have a higher life-cycle cost and lower availability rate.

1. This puts tremendous pressure on the IAF/INAA maintenance teams to ensure that the maximum availability which is below 70% and not a good sign
2. It is prohibitively expensive from an exchequer point of view, whereby the rotational parts have to be constantly stocked faster for which they rip us off

Sure we can argue that it is the price for being a reliable supplier and I am all for it. But today, we stand at the cusp of making a huge leap and a change. Meaning that we have a once-in-a-generation opportunity to wean away from both West and Russia, and we should seize it by the neck.

For the first time, IAF has agreed to sticking to a domestic project. It might take time but it needs to be functional and effective. This is the price we pay for once getting to having our own stealth aircraft. Looking at Su-57 I am skeptical about the aircraft is a finished product and more like an early pre-stealth test bed rushed to show something.

Su-57s were not deployed in the Ukraine War, which only saw Russian Air Force use Su-30, Su-27 and MiG-29S. Why? The USAF, RAF and FAF always look for an excuse to deploy their new weapons in the earliest possible wars to test their efficacy, hence they manufacture wars where none exist.

This was an unavoidable war for the Russians according to their government, then why is Russia not using Su-57s?

The Chinese copied everything from the West and they came up with a more potent platform - we may not know how it performs on the stealth spectrum, but it seems to be doing a pretty effective job in keeping the Americans harassed enough in the South China Sea airspace.

France is no different now, its a cuckolded country. India just needs to get on with making it inhouse even if its one to 2 gen behind....not everything is bad as look at the sortie rates of SU -25 or ka-52s and so on....not even western ones keep up from what I read. But west does have good engines and their civilian versions definitely contribute towards this reliability.

France is a waning power, which is PRECISELY why we need to engage them both commercially and strategically and get what we can. The same goes for the UK whose engine tech is second to none, despite their other tangible shortcomings. The point is not to have another power hovering around us, but to be able to do all of it in another 10 years.

Russia is a resource powerhouse and has a lot of minerals and other deposits that we might need in the future, so our engagement with Russia is going nowhere. It is in fact going to get stronger on the civil/economic side more than the defense side.

Hence, government's doubling up the efforts to shore up relations with Russia in BRICS (other than keeping a check on China).

Meanwhile, there are very limited areas in which we can engage UK and France such as renewables, jet engines and aerospace, drones, precision engineering etc. We are self-reliant in the space sector and with ISRO's decision to go at it alone wherever required, we are strong. There is nothing that anyone in Europe could offer or refuse to offer us that we don't need. This self-reliance borrows its rapid growth around 1998 when we were sanctioned by the world.

This is the last decade where we will need technology assistance in making defence goods. 2030s onwards we will become their competitors. Let's keep the eyes on our prize.

 

[omaebakabaka]

No one is talking about the current and past inventory.

Russian weapons helped us win wars and dismantle the US-UK narrative that they are invincible and are still potent platforms in the hands of a well-trained force. But it has been established that defence equipment from Russia have a higher life-cycle cost and lower availability rate.

1. This puts tremendous pressure on the IAF/INAA maintenance teams to ensure that the maximum availability which is below 70% and not a good sign
2. It is prohibitively expensive from an exchequer point of view, whereby the rotational parts have to be constantly stocked faster for which they rip us off

Sure we can argue that it is the price for being a reliable supplier and I am all for it. But today, we stand at the cusp of making a huge leap and a change. Meaning that we have a once-in-a-generation opportunity to wean away from both West and Russia, and we should seize it by the neck.

For the first time, IAF has agreed to sticking to a domestic project. It might take time but it needs to be functional and effective. This is the price we pay for once getting to having our own stealth aircraft. Looking at Su-57 I am skeptical about the aircraft is a finished product and more like an early pre-stealth test bed rushed to show something.

Su-57s were not deployed in the Ukraine War, which only saw Russian Air Force use Su-30, Su-27 and MiG-29S. Why? The USAF, RAF and FAF always look for an excuse to deploy their new weapons in the earliest possible wars to test their efficacy, hence they manufacture wars where none exist.

This was an unavoidable war for the Russians according to their government, then why is Russia not using Su-57s?

The Chinese copied everything from the West and they came up with a more potent platform - we may not know how it performs on the stealth spectrum, but it seems to be doing a pretty effective job in keeping the Americans harassed enough in the South China Sea airspace.



France is a waning power, which is PRECISELY why we need to engage them both commercially and strategically and get what we can. The same goes for the UK whose engine tech is second to none, despite their other tangible shortcomings. The point is not to have another power hovering around us, but to be able to do all of it in another 10 years.

Russia is a resource powerhouse and has a lot of minerals and other deposits that we might need in the future, so our engagement with Russia is going nowhere. It is in fact going to get stronger on the civil/economic side more than the defense side.

Hence, government's doubling up the efforts to shore up relations with Russia in BRICS (other than keeping a check on China).

Meanwhile, there are very limited areas in which we can engage UK and France such as renewables, jet engines and aerospace, drones, precision engineering etc. We are self-reliant in the space sector and with ISRO's decision to go at it alone wherever required, we are strong. There is nothing that anyone in Europe could offer or refuse to offer us that we don't need. This self-reliance borrows its rapid growth around 1998 when we were sanctioned by the world.

This is the last decade where we will need technology assistance in making defence goods. 2030s onwards we will become their competitors. Let's keep the eyes on our prize.

USAF for all its skyhigh budget does not have 70% uprate anymore in any of its services....this si the result of making things too complex. In general strategic assets are desired to be at 90% ready availability and rest vary based on wartime vs regular times. All force structures ancient and modern are based on theories of optimality and war straegies are based on considering these.....its truly eye watering what billions can buy in west in terms of armament....not everyone can print their way like US or Euro does it....even then they are unable to scale like they used to in the past. This is the rot reflection in every strata of west now.

I do agree with you and most Indians say the same is we can't afford nor should import Airforce or Army anymore....this is fatal for us to sustain wars with our enemies who surround us....not a single one is trustable including so called "Hindu" turned bastard Nepal....

As for SU-57's, there is no use in using it.....did the US use F-22's as primary machine in any war against less capable foes? Did we use Tejas yet? Everyone has their timelines, no need to doubt Russian's as they are historically capable of extreme military science and Ukraine shows. Any other western power would have run away by now fighting a war like that. This is a tangent that has no use bringing in SU-57. This war is a mix of low key terrorist attacks with drones which scare me from Indian bases pov combined with WW1 like trench warfar and human waves plus propoganfa and brutality at WW2 level and style.

 

[Tshering22]

USAF for all its skyhigh budget does not have 70% uprate anymore in any of its services....this si the result of making things too complex. In general strategic assets are desired to be at 90% ready availability and rest vary based on wartime vs regular times. All force structures ancient and modern are based on theories of optimality and war strategies are based on considering these.....its truly eye watering what billions can buy in west in terms of armament....not everyone can print their way like US or Euro does it....even then they are unable to scale like they used to in the past. This is the rot reflection in every strata of west now.

The availability rate desired is stated by the IAF, not me. I am not nitpicking and could not be bothered as far as the country is safe and secure.

Most countries that receive Russian weapons are countries that are either partly sanctioned, dictatorships, or countries with limited-to-no alternatives due to their political models.

Don't get me wrong, they are not some sort of a black spot. But the reason that they are less vocal publicly about maintenance of Russian hardware is because they really do not have any other option of strategic autonomy and no one else is willing to supply them with modern weapons. We Indians on the other hand, are known to be vociferous and vocal, which is why IAF's comments about difficulty in maintenance of Russian hardware comes out in the open.

While we can acknowledge the massive strategic autonomy that Soviet and later Russian weapons provided us, this is a thing of the past. Inducting something from scratch with new terms of strategic partnership is not easy. The tiff between HAL and UAC over PAKFA/FGFA project should indicate you that while we politically agree to a lot of things, technicalities and IP interests would not allow for a smooth partnership.

The Chinese despite being in bed with Russia or appearing to be so, did not care about them and started ripping their tech off left-right and center. They did the same with Airbus and Boeing wherever they could, especially in the helicopter department. Europe just had to accept it if they wanted to continue trading with China.

They may not be ethical, but they realized early that ethics didn't get them anywhere internationally during their Century of Humiliation. India has had 5 centuries of humiliation - first under the Mughal barbarians and then under the European colonizers such as UK, France, Portugal and Denmark (parts of Andaman). We should be 5 times colder than the Chinese today, but instead here we are discussing about how great others are.

Russia has stood by India and I respect that, but we cannot let that get in the way of our self-interest. If it came to their interests, they won't take a second choose that over us.

It is a different matter that Russians don't trust the Chinese despite their pretense in the public and media. which is why they keep roping us in on their multilateral engagements. BRICS, SCO, EEU+ dialog, etc., are the beaming examples of why they trust us more than they trust Chinese, but still not enough to see their self-interests threatened. India is their biggest weapons market even today by $$. No one will want to lose that by making your customer self-reliant.

I do agree with you and most Indians say the same is we can't afford nor should import Airforce or Army anymore....this is fatal for us to sustain wars with our enemies who surround us....not a single one is trustable including so called "Hindu" turned bastard Nepal....

As for SU-57's, there is no use in using it.....did the US use F-22's as primary machine in any war against less capable foes?

If you ask the USAF, they did along with F-35s in Syria, before the Turks shot that Russian jet and forced Russians moved their S-400s into Syria.

Did we use Tejas yet? Everyone has their timelines, no need to doubt Russians as they are historically capable of extreme military science and Ukraine shows.

The point is that IAF may have managed in the past but is unwilling to repeat the cycle all over again. We have not used Tejas because:

1) we have not faced a situation whereby Tejas was required to be used in combat
2) we only integrated domestic AAMs and ARMs now, it is only possible to do it now rather than back in the Balakot airstrike

Russia has military interests and covertly gets involved all over the world where they operate either using Wagner or other PMCs as well as their own forces. Can't really compare the two.

You are right comparing about Russia's military capabilities that they would deploy during a war that they are fighting, versus a normal export order. But it does not mean that their most cutting edge variants would be available for exports - even to us. Exports are always downgraded.

Any other western power would have run away by now fighting a war like that. This is a tangent that has no use bringing in SU-57. This war is a mix of low key terrorist attacks with drones which scare me from Indian bases pov combined with WW1 like trench warfare and human waves plus propaganda and brutality at WW2 level and style.

The only Western countries capable of fighting a serious war today is the US, and to some extent, Poland and Turkey (if it is about NATO). The rest are just logistical accessories. So there is no point in talking about them when seen from an Indian context.

Su-57s armed with long-range standoff missiles can bring in massive advantage to their ground troops, without even going deep into Ukraine. The MiG-31s used Kinzhals only on limited targets, instead of using it for a decapitation strike. I am still puzzled about why Putin is playing cat and mouse with Zelensky and how is it that FSB has not managed to track the latter's location in over 500 days now.

Bottom-line remains that IAF wants to start a completely new chapter of over 70% availability, and no, comparing the barely-used NATO/European air forces with tiny numbers is not a comparison you want to make, considering our neighborhood and environment.

We need the availability of Israeli Air Force given that we are in a similar situation geographically and culturally speaking.

 

[omaebakabaka]

If you ask the USAF, they did along with F-35s in Syria, before the Turks shot that Russian jet and forced Russians moved their S-400s into Syria.

This is even more funny considering that they are super duper highly integrated and almost invisible things that came out of scifi vs rusty Russian medieval 400.

Point about being able to sell something is not directly proportional to best products available.....this is evident in many aspects of social world including automobiles, consumer electronics, clothing and soon. Russian products are not widespread as their culture is not either. They are not a colonial empire outside their regional influence but every time they kicked the asses of their invaders from advanced west....but yet stupid enough to not plunder them to death. This is what India looks like too....mercy is misunderstood in some countries. They are better than us as they avoided Indian fate of being occupied.

1) we have not faced a situation whereby Tejas was required to be used in combat
2) we only integrated domestic AAMs and ARMs now, it is only possible to do it now rather than back in the Balakot airstrike

Same applies to them, its still seeing its iterations and no one wants to expose everything they have especially Russia vs West. They used their platforms as they see fit just like we with our mig21s. No one knows what their goals and strategy are....whoever is brave, has good strategy and able to sustain will win this thing. Russia will eventually win based on their history and past generally indicates future....this is the best thing that happened to them in decoupling from west in entirety. No country needs coke, pepse, dominos, mcdonalds and especially their cancerous culture and ideology.

As for India, domestic sooner than later in IAF, IA is a necessity or we become someone else;s bitch again. This Ukraine war is a wake up call for us....behind the scenes we buy some stuff from Russian's because they help us in Strategic areas like nuke subs, missiles e.t.c but this may not be necessary with every passing decade.

I just don't like the dissing of someone else's stuff while we don't even have presence in those areas to match their level and sanction oriented west is a liability and high risk regardless of how good their products are.....so our own is the way.

 

[bhramos]

A single-seater SU-75 can be converted into a two-seater or unmanned by simply replacing the cabin
The essence of the development is to convert the cabin into a module: then the modules can be changed, quite quickly converting the aircraft from a single-seater to an unmanned or two-seater. For this purpose, a transition zone with cabin module attachment nodes will be placed on the front side of the base part of the fuselage, as well as connections and plastering of electrical-, hydro- and other systems. Everything else (wings, feathers, power gear) will not be changed (that is, they can be replaced at the factory, but these nodes will not be modular).

 

[Tshering22]

A single-seater SU-75 can be converted into a two-seater or unmanned by simply replacing the cabin
The essence of the development is to convert the cabin into a module: then the modules can be changed, quite quickly converting the aircraft from a single-seater to an unmanned or two-seater. For this purpose, a transition zone with cabin module attachment nodes will be placed on the front side of the base part of the fuselage, as well as connections and plastering of electrical-, hydro- and other systems. Everything else (wings, feathers, power gear) will not be changed (that is, they can be replaced at the factory, but these nodes will not be modular).

It is a tempting offer and joining the Russians and Emiratis would make strategic sense. But the biggest problem in such projects is Russia unilaterally taking all the decisions while thinking that others would bankroll them. Ideally, partner countries should all have standardized production facilities.

We need to push AMCA as a potential partnership project. I kept saying this since the time the AMCA was announced. We need second-tier powers in the project as partners. countries that can contribute technology and resources. For example, the UAE, Israel and Brazil.

 

[Johny_Baba]

It is a tempting offer and joining the Russians and Emiratis would make strategic sense. But the biggest problem in such projects is Russia unilaterally taking all the decisions while thinking that others would bankroll them. Ideally, partner countries should all have standardized production facilities.

We need to push AMCA as a potential partnership project. I kept saying this since the time the AMCA was announced. We need second-tier powers in the project as partners. countries that can contribute technology and resources. For example, the UAE, Israel and Brazil.

well in past we tried to do same with HF-24 Marut, we partnered with Egypt when they were getting that turbojet E-300 engine developed there but MOSSAD got it ruined by threatening those german brains behind the project and all, and after '67 'six day war' Egypt chose to import soviet jets instead of funding much riskier project at home, especially when their 'neighbour' was being this much hostile over their own survival and all other geopolitical reasons

Brandner E-300 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It's nice to do this kind of joint projects but when geopolitical realities are not always in our favour we can only wish so much, the only sureshot way to get over our limitations is going totally choyna tier ruthless kopybaaz and all - and to hell with those pessimist fuckers who say we cannot do it - we sure fucking can, the only thing lacking is fucking intent!

 

[Tshering22]

Russia discusses cooperation on Checkmate project with foreign customers — FSCTC - Military & Defense - TASS

Russia discusses cooperation on Checkmate project with foreign customers — FSCTC
According to Dmitry Shugaev, Checkmate has a certain way to go before becoming an export product, although its competitiveness is already obvious

PATRIOT PARK /Moscow region/, August 16. /TASS/. Russia’s Federal Service for Military and Technical Cooperation (FSCTC) is holding consultations with some foreign customers on cooperation as part of the Checkmate light tactical aircraft project. Director of FSCTC Dmitry Shugayev said this when talking to TASS.
"I am not ready to say yet who will be the first Checkmate customer. Potential Checkmate customers are located on different continents, in different regions of the world. I can only confirm that consultations are currently underway with some foreign customers on cooperation within the Checkmate project," Shugaev said noting that cooperation involves not only the supply of the aircraft themselves but also technological cooperation.
According to Shugaev, Checkmate has a certain way to go before becoming an export product, although its competitiveness is already obvious. "Taking into account the expected competitive price, I believe that it will be in demand in its segment," the head of the FSCTC said.

The light tactical fighter Checkmate developed by the Sukhoi Company (part of the United Aircraft Corporation within Rostec) was for the first time presented to the public at the MAKS 2021 airshow. Its foreign debut took place at Dubai Airshow 2021 in the United Arab Emirates. The Checkmate incorporates the latest technical solutions, open architecture, and unique artificial intelligence technologies. It is a stealth aircraft with an internal compartment for air-to-air and air-to-surface weapons.

The payload exceeds seven tons. The jet can destroy six targets at a time. It will be able to fly at Mach 1.8 and will have a combat radius of 3,000 km. The Army-2023 International Military-Technical Forum is taking place at the Patriot Congress and Exhibition Center, the Alabino shooting range and the Kubinka airfield on August 14-20. The event is being organized by the Russian Defense Ministry. TASS serves as its strategic media partner.

Russia will still have two major customers even if we don't go for it: Algeria and Vietnam. They, along with two new ones namely Saudi and the UAE. Putin just visited both of these countries. Saudi and UAE want to ensure greater defence autonomy as they had very negative experiences with the US defence ecosystem. Hence the decision by UAE to cancel F-35 and go for Rafales, as well as going for the Korean-made air defence system. Is South Korea a free country? No, but UAE has an added layer of complexity to stop from completely being sanctioned as Koreans don't really care how you use their weapons as long as it is not helping North Korea.

Iran now that they are in BRICS will be happy to jump on board with whatever funding they can, knowing that they can now access 5th generation jets, even if they are 80% the capabilities of F-35.

Ruskies are not losing any sleep over us not joining.

 

[silverghost]

USAF for all its skyhigh budget does not have 70% uprate anymore in any of its services....this si the result of making things too complex. In general strategic assets are desired to be at 90% ready availability and rest vary based on wartime vs regular times. All force structures ancient and modern are based on theories of optimality and war straegies are based on considering these.....its truly eye watering what billions can buy in west in terms of armament....not everyone can print their way like US or Euro does it....even then they are unable to scale like they used to in the past. This is the rot reflection in every strata of west now.

I do agree with you and most Indians say the same is we can't afford nor should import Airforce or Army anymore....this is fatal for us to sustain wars with our enemies who surround us....not a single one is trustable including so called "Hindu" turned bastard Nepal....

As for SU-57's, there is no use in using it.....did the US use F-22's as primary machine in any war against less capable foes? Did we use Tejas yet? Everyone has their timelines, no need to doubt Russian's as they are historically capable of extreme military science and Ukraine shows. Any other western power would have run away by now fighting a war like that. This is a tangent that has no use bringing in SU-57. This war is a mix of low key terrorist attacks with drones which scare me from Indian bases pov combined with WW1 like trench warfar and human waves plus propoganfa and brutality at WW2 level and style.

Russia has used SU 57 sporadically. Their Airforce doesn't have them in large nos. anyway. However, the news is Russia has doubled the production of SU 57 & will soon have them in larger nos.

 

[The3Amigos]

Su-75 is a looker

 

[WolfPack86]

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