National Civil Aviation Sector

[Kunal Biswas]

Sir, What is needed now that the system which is projected here need to run on first place, We need to kick start the engine at first and see the preform-ace is a second, So does the tune up at third ..

Their is serious need for such transportation which is yet to be implemented in large scale ..

@Kunal
If a large international airline like air india is so poorly run how would these regional airlines fare?

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Kunal

Three things in infrastructure transportation need to be priorities
1 . better roads
2 . better rail
3 . Air transport

All these are issues but I would make energy security the greatest priority

 

[AVERAGE INDIAN]

Piper Matrix ZS-JAM

best suited for shuttle service between warangal airport and Hyderabad international airport

warangal Mamnoor airport does have a functional runawy because it is used by NCC air wing and does have 2 hangers which were used to store motor gliders , ther were used by grey hounds for areal survey for naxal combing operations in the past last been there in 2009 i have been there in my recent trip to India

Mamnoor airport 1981

Present situation

Location:
Warangal, Telangana,INDIA
Latitude / Longitude:
17.916668 / 79.6
Time Zone:
+5:30 hours from UTC/GMT
Airport Code:
FlightStats code: WGC
IATA code: WGC
ICAO code: VOWA
FAA code:

According to the Airport Authority of India (AAI), another 445 acres of land was needed for the construction of airport at the Mamunoor airstrip situated on the outskirts of the town. The officials have planned to acquire the land in the villages Mamunoor, Nakkalapalli and Timmapur adjoining the airstrip. A survey in this connection would soon be taken up followed by the process of land acquisition.

Nizam-era airport lies neglected

MAMNOOR (Warangal): The largest pre-independence era airport, built by the Nizams at Mamnoor in Warangal district may be now set to do a vanishing act soon, thanks to the apathy of the authorities.

While local residents continue to battle for the development of the airport, to bring it to current AAI specifications, political leaders and other public representatives are allegedly conspiring with corporations to use the land for other purposes. A Warangal MP is also recommending the land be handed over to Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) to build a facility for helicopter manufacturing, a move that is creating no small tension in the district.

District collector B Rahul confirmed that the Warangal MP had requested him to forward the letter for transfer to HAL to the Principal secretary of Industries.

On Thursday, hundreds of women participated in a rally to the Mamnoor airport runway, in a protest where they also expressed themselves using 'rangolis'. They also shouted slogans against Seemandhra leaders and the Chief Minister who hails from that region, and accused them of duping the T-region people.

The Airports Authority of India (AAI) had agreed to develop the air ports at Mamnoor and Kadapa simultaneously, and even signed an MOU to the effect on 30th March, 2007. However, the authority has thus far concentrated on only on Kadapa airport only.

The airport at Mamnoor was established in 1930 by the Nizam Nawab, along with one at Sholapur to benefit the businesses, at Sirpurkagaznagar for the paper industry's convenience, and to help industries like the Azam Zahi mills at Warangal. It was the largest airport in the country at the time, with 1875 acres in land, a 6.6 kms runway, a pilot and staff quarters, a pilot training centre and more than one terminal. It remained in service until 1981.

Numerous PMs and Presidents have landed at the airport until 1981, and during the Indo-China war, it served as a hangar for government aircraft due to Delhi airport being a target in combat. Many cargo services and Vayudooth services have also used it as their hub.

Nizam-era airport lies neglected - The Times of India

 

[Akim]

Condition : Need For Affordable Rugged Passenger Aircraft

An-2-100 has the engine MS-14

10.07.2013

 

[Zebra]

State wise Airfield List :

Director Civil Aviation > Statewise Airfield List

 

[Akim]

How many An-2 is operated in India? The cost of reworking An-3 is 2 mln. dollars. The cost of rework in the An-2-100 - $ 1 million. Cuba already remodels party An-2.

 

[Ray]

I wonder if we have An 2 in India.

Most of our small aircraft are of US origin, if I am not mistaken.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Presently their are no AN-2 /3 in India not even in Military ..

But it suits the need and environment in India ..

 

[Akim]

Presently their are no AN-2 /3 in India not even in Military ..

But it suits the need and environment in India ..

If not, don't need to buy. To fly the An-2 is unpleasant. Slow, small height. The plane shakes constantly from the air pockets .
The most important advantage - he is cheap.

 

[Ray]

@Kunal,

We were operating Doniers.

Still in service?

I fly in it once. Not very pleasant.

 

[ladder]

Pilatus will open a PC-12 assembly/ aero structure line in India as off-set requirement for BTT PC-7 deal for IAF.

Pilatus, Tata to manufacture PC-12 "green aircraft" aerostructures in India | NetIndian

Also, Mahindra/ Gippsaero will launch GA-18 next year.

GippsAero GA18 Aircraft - A Rugged & Maintainable Aircraft

NAL Saras is if ever operational too will come into picture, apart from Do-228.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Sir, Doniers may be still active, Here`s a photo of it under ' Indian Airlines ' ..

@Kunal,

We were operating Doniers.

Still in service?

I fly in it once. Not very pleasant.

==============

The reason i liked AN-2/3 coz they are rugged , Single Engine , short takeoff and landing (STOL) Capability suits our many rough and sort runways ..

I don't believe the interior are so bad compare to Do-228 which operate in Indian services ..

AN-2R

DO-228

If not, don't need to buy. To fly the An-2 is unpleasant. Slow, small height. The plane shakes constantly from the air pockets .
The most important advantage - he is cheap.

 

[Akim]

I don't believe the interior are so bad compare to Do-228 which operate in Indian services ..

The planes are different. An-2 biplane. It is reliable, but inconvenient plane. I also flew on L-410. This is a good and comfortable a smal regional jet.

 

[sgarg]

There is great scope for small airplanes in India but high cost of maintaining airports (security) is the serious problem.
Also domestic industry must be able to build and maintain the plane for it to become affordable for a lot of people.
Will happen one day, maybe not soon. Anyway the passengers numbers for domestic sectors have become quite large, so lot of people are flying.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Mahindra gets nod to sell its Australian airplanes in India - The Economic Times

By PTI | 19 Nov, 2014, 04.00PM IST

MELBOURNE: Indian conglomerate Mahindra Group will now be able to sell its Australia-made airplanes in India, with the Civil Aviation Ministry approving its long-pending proposal after amending relevant rules.

"The aviation ministry has yesterday cleared a few norms for certification, which will finally allow us to sell our Australian planes in India," Mahindra Group CMD Anand Mahindra told here.

"We bought an Australia (aerospace) company and we are selling our planes in California, but due to a rule to do with seating capacity for piston engine plane, we were not able to sell in India," Mahindra, who was a part of Prime Minister Narendra Modi's CEO delegation to Australia, said.

The aircraft, popularly known as Mahindra Gipps planes, are utility planes having seating capacities ranging from 5 to 10 seats.....

Shared by @Casper

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Serious Business: Mahindra Aerospace


Local Airplane manufacturing

Narsapur, 40 kilometres from the aviation capital of India, Bangalore, witnessed the setup of Mahindra Aerospace's manufacturing facility, in technical collaboration with Aeronova, a Spanish company specialising in the design and manufacture of major airframe assemblies. In 2 years, the GA-10 is expected to be manufactured in the country, making it the first private player to build certified aircraft in the normal and commuter categories, in the country.

The inauguration of this facility helps realise the dreams of Mahindra Aerospace. In the August of 2011, while announcing the development of the manufacturing facility at Narsapur, Hemant Luthra, President – Mahindra Systech, which takes care of the group's aero service business, and member of the Group Executive Board, expressed the group's ambitions. "From the family of Mahindra Aerospace planes that include the NM5, we would be disappointed if in 3-5 years time we were not clocking a rate of 100 aircraft per annum in India. This rate could get accelerated if we include exports to China and other countries."

In the same year, Mehra had said to Flightglobal that he sees Mahindra Aerospace becoming the Embraer of India, carving out a niche in a world dominated by big Western players. "Embraer grew out of a country with no aviation experience. They competed with Boeing and Airbus and made a space for themselves. Embraer is a beautiful story."

Source : Serious Business: Mahindra Aerospace | The Flying Engineer

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Air Odisha Aviation Pvt Ltd

Cessna 208 Caravan

Air Odisha Aviation Private Limited (AOAPL) is an Indian air charter company based in Bhubaneswar, India. The airline has its headquarters at Biju Patnaik International Airport, Bhubaneswar. Air Odisha is ready to resume their services to Angul, Jeypore, Jharsuguda, Rourkela and Sambalpur in Odisha from October 2014.Air Odisha Aviation Private Limited (AOAPL) is formed under Companies Act, Government of Odisha to provide air charter service. Air Odisha is the sole chartered airline of Odisha and one of the non scheduled airlines of India.

 

[power_monger]

Rivals join forces to develop Indian aircraft

For decades, Indian expertise in designing and building aircraft has developed randomly, with isolated areas of excellence offset by large capability gaps in important fields. Now a new government body has begun coordinating the holistic development of the country's aeronautical capability.

Just as the Atomic Energy Commission oversees the field of nuclear energy, and the Space Commission coordinates India's space programmes, many believe that an empowered Aeronautical Commission must coordinate and oversee the development of capabilities, facilities and skilled human resources needed to design and build aircraft, both military and commercial.

While an Aeronautical Commission currently seems unlikely, the B K Chaturvedi Committee in 2012 recommended establishing an apex, multi-agency National Aeronautics Coordination Group (NACG), chaired by the Secretary (Defence Production). Functioning below the NACG would be the more hands-on and technology oriented Design & Development Management Board (DDMB).

On Thursday, the DDMB held its first meeting in Bangalore. Headed by R K Tyagi, chairman of Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL), it included key officials from aerospace organisations like the Defence R&D Organisation (DRDO); National Aerospace Laboratory (NAL) and Bharat Electronics Ltd (BEL).


Officials familiar with the meeting told Business Standard that discussions centred on the need to coordinate the R&D being conducted in different centres, since significant portions of it were overlapping and redundant.

Says the official, "It was highlighted that there are nine R&D centres within HAL alone; BEL has its own R&D centre; so does NAL and other establishments of the Department of Science & Technology. These are pursuing the same goals."

In the absence of coordination, laboratories are designing systems that have already been developed elsewhere, and are even in operational service. Example: HAL has already fitted IFF (Identification Friend or Foe) systems in IAF fighters, which electronically differentiate enemy aircraft from our own fighters, and block friendly fire on the latter. Yet the DRDO is designing its own IFF system, as is a private company, Mahindra Telephonics.

The DDMB also discussed the need to create R&D test facilities in India. Crucially needed are a high altitude test facility, and a flying test bed for aero engines. The DRDO currently uses test facilities in Russia, paying almost Rs 150 crore for packing, transporting and testing an engine there. Establishing a national test facility in India, which development agencies could pay to use, would allow aero engines to be developed more economically.

Another proposal involved setting up of a Flight Dynamics Simulation Centre to analyse flight regimes that India does not yet understand fully, such as the complex dynamics of stalls and spins. It was suggested that R&D institutions should combine forces to write the challenging software for these flight regimes, jointly establishing software teams, control law teams, and a simulator complex.

"We need to have a clear road map to take on the challenges"¦ (that) range from basic and applied research, involvement of academia, production, spotting and retaining talent," said Tyagi, who heads the DDMB.

Significantly, the DDMB brings together competing agencies that have had difficult relations in the past. The discordant rivalry between R&D agencies like DRDO and production agencies like HAL has been widely reported. Yet, participants from both those organisations told Business Standard that they were elated at the prospect of joining forces.

"Planning and working together is something that has never happened before. We have always had energy; now, for the first time, we will also have synergy," said a DDMB member.

The initial structures currently set up could see change. There is dichotomy in placing both the NACG and DDMB under the MoD, while other ministries share responsibility for aerospace development. The government's Allocation of Business Rules makes the Ministry of Civil Aviation (MoCA) responsible for developing commercial aircraft, a task the MoCA has not seemed inclined to take up. The project to develop a Regional Transport Aircraft (RTA) is being jointly pursued by NAL/HAL without MoCA oversight.

"There is a need to change the Allocation of Business Rules in order to bring rules in line with reality", points out a senior MoD official.

 

[sayareakd]

Great, work together for common goal. It require national effort. Not just organisation effort.

 

[dastan]

This has something to do with the NDA govt or was it already planned?