LOC, LAC & IB skirmishs

[lcafanboy]

More muscle for India’s Andaman and Nicobar defence posts to counter hawkish China
Saturday, August 26, 2017 By: HT Source Link: CLICK HERE

The Narendra Modi government plans to strengthen the Tri-Service Command in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands to expand India’s military reach in the Bay of Bengal and counterbalance growing Chinese ambitions in the region.

The joint command of the army, air force and navy was set up in the country’s southeastern islands during the previous NDA government of Atal Bihari Vajpayee 16 years ago.

South Block sources said work started to add military teeth to the command that has its headquarters in Port Blair and it could be placed under the proposed permanent Chairman of the Chief of Staff Committee (COSC).

With Beijing getting aggressive in the South China Sea, India has decided to secure its backyard by building military capacities from North Andaman to Car Nicobar islands for safeguarding strategic sea lanes and maritime territory.

Indian interests are located strategically on the mouth of the Malacca Straits. This gateway to the Far East is an 850km channel and it carries 40% of the world’s freight trade as more than 94,000 merchant ships cross this portal each year to and from China, South Korea and Japan.

But Malacca is a chokepoint, narrowing down to a mere 2.8km south of Singapore.

India plans to augment its military capacities and safeguard its interests in the Bay of Bengal and Indian Ocean with better and bigger runways at naval air stations in North Andaman’s Shibpur and at Campbell bay in Great Nicobar.

These will be extended from the current 3,000 feet to 10,000 feet to accommodate fighter jets and bigger planes such as the navy’s Boeing P-8I long-range maritime reconnaissance and anti-submarine aircraft. These airstrips will be kitted out with ammunition dumps too.

The airfields are currently used for Dornier aircraft and Mi-17 helicopters. The expansion will allow the Lockheed C-130 Hercules transport aircraft to land on and take-off from these airstrips.

In the long run, civilian traffic can also use these airfields.

The defence ministry is understood to have started the process of acquiring land for building a reinforced and bigger command in Port Blair.

It will have extended jetties along the harbour for mooring aircraft carriers and large warships. A naval ammunition depot is also proposed for replenishing the navy’s ships during contingencies.

The Car Nicobar air force base will get more teeth as well, with an extended capacity to hold fighter squadrons for a month and beyond.

The naval units at INS Kardip in Kamorta Islands, south of Car Nicobar, are being upgraded for warships.

At present, the station provides logistics support and has wharf for small ships.

The southernmost station, INS Baaz at Campbell Bay that is barely 150km from Indonesia’s Banda Aceh, is getting an extended airstrip of 6,000 feet. Plans are afoot to dredge the bay for bigger warships and rig the place with a robust radar network.

Campbell Bay will be a major military hub to prevent terrorist and pirate attacks on vessels crossing the vulnerable Malacca Straits.
http://www.defencenews.in/article/M...defence-posts-to-counter-hawkish-China-283899

 

[lcafanboy]

Chinese shoes packed in Tricolour boxes invite fury in Uttarakhand's Almora
Saturday, August 26, 2017 By: Web India 123 Source Link: CLICK HERE



Amid a tense standoff between India and China at Doklam, Chinese shoes packed in Tricolour boxes drew wrath in Uttarakhand's Almora.

The local shopkeepers in Uttarakhand's Almora informed the police that they had been delivered shoes in boxes bearing the Tricolour, allegedly from China following which police have started investigation.

Almora Senior Superintendent of Police P. Renuka Devi said putting the shoes in boxes with the national flag was an insult to the Tricolour.

The boxes have the Tricolour on top and the base carries some letters in Mandarin, police said, triggering speculation among locals that the move was aimed at humiliating Indians.

Renuka Devi said putting the shoes in boxes with the national flag was an insult to the Tricolour and that they were investigating the matter.

Udham Singh Nagar Senior Superintendent of Police Sadanand Date said the police questioned the owner of Tammana Traders in Rudrapur, who said that he bought the shoes from a distributor in Delhi and did not know their place of origin.

"We would be questioning the dealer in New Delhi to ascertain the origin of these shoes", said the SSP.

The case has been filed by the shopkeeper Bishan Bora against the shoe supplier of Rudrapur. Bora claimed as soon as he opened the consignment, he found only seven shoe pair in proper box and rest of the pairs came in the Tricolour box.

"I received the goods on Thursday and when I opened the bags, I was shocked. I called the police, sensing something wrong," said Bora, who filed the initial complaint.

http://www.defencenews.in/article/C...xes-invite-fury-in-Uttarakhands-Almora-283890

Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) district president of Almora Lalit Latwal asserted the administration swung into action after he intervened.

"As soon I received information about the consignment, I immediately requested administration to forfeit the boxes and act against those who are involved in insulting Indian flag. It looks like a bigger conspiracy. The party workers will keep an eye on the case until those culprits are not arrested" Latwal said.

 

[Villager]

We can do the same with PRC's flag.

 

[lcafanboy]

We can do the same with PRC's flag.

I would say make dustbins with Chinese Flags on it and market it across the world.

 

[aditya g]

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ong-jammu-border-bsf/articleshow/60235562.cms

"Today Pakistan resorted to unprovoked to ceasefire violation and fired four 51mm mortar and two 81mm mortar shells towards the forward Indian posts in Dewra village of Rajouri's Sunderbani district," a BSF spokesperson said, adding that the jawans retaliated strongly and shot dead at least three Pakistan Rangers.

The force also said it is "engaged in a befitting retaliation" after the Rangers began unprovoked firing in the Pargwal area of Jammu since around 3 PM.

Earlier in the day, the force said, at least half-a-dozen mortar shells were fired from across the border and they exploded in the Dewra village of Sunderbani sector along the IB.

"The force retaliated strongly during cross-border firing and shot dead at least three Pakistan Rangers," a Border Security Force (BSF) spokesperson said.

Yesterday, a BSF jawan, constable K K Appa Rao, was hit by a sniper round in the RS Pura sector when the Pakistani side took a direct aim at him.

Rao, who was drinking water, got hit just below his right ear.

"Constable Rao was operated upon last night and is stable now," the spokesperson added.​

 

[Gtmbisht82]

Bole So Nihal Sat Sri Akal

 

[Nicky G]

So it seems China offering money to Bhutan is fake.

 

[Screambowl]

I would say make dustbins with Chinese Flags on it and market it across the world.

WC ( sandas mein jo hota hai) .. that will do too ..

 

[Bornubus]

J 10A in Tibet

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[Bornubus]

A Border Security Force (BSF) jawan was critically injured in sniper firing by Pakistani Rangers along the international border in Arnia area of RS Pura sector of Jammu district on Friday.

92nd Battalion’s constable KK Apparao, deployed at Budhwar post, was hit on the head by sniper fire around noon, an intelligence official said.

A BSF officer confirmed the incident and said the jawan was hospitalised in Jammu and is stable.

The BSF did not retaliate. It has been learnt that BSF Jammu frontier IG Ram Awtar and DIG Dharmender Pareekh visited forward areas in Arnia and other sectors on the international border to take stock of the situation.

Minister of state for home affairs, Hansraj Gangaram Ahir had visited Chamliyal border outpost in Ramgarh area of Samba sector on Thursday to take stock of the prevailing security scenario on the border.

On July 17, the BSF and the Pakistan Rangers had held a commandant-level flag meeting in Samba sector along the international border and “committed” themselves to maintaining peace.

In the flag meeting, the two sides had agreed to re-energise instant communication between field commanders, whenever required, to resolve petty matters, a BSF official had said.

“They committed to each other to maintain peace and tranquillity at the international border,” the official had added.

Two days back, senior Army commanders of India and Pakistan also held a flag meeting on the Line of Control (LoC) in Poonch sector in J&K and agreed to institute mechanisms for durable peace and tranquility on the border.

The year 2017 has seen a sharp increase in ceasefire violations by Pakistan.

Till August 1, there were 285 such violations by the Pakistan Army while in 2016, the number was significantly less at 228 for the entire year, according to the Army figures.

Eleven people, including nine soldiers, were killed and 18 injured in ceasefire violations by Pakistani army in July, the Army data says.

There were 83 ceasefire violations, one BAT (border action team) attack and two infiltration bids from the Pakistani side in June in which 4 people, including three jawans, were killed and 12 injured.

In May, there were 79 ceasefire violations, according to officials.


http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...long-border/story-jIkBBoRFBzhAmAag5WVqSN.html

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/bsf-jawan-injured-in-pak-sniper-firing/article19561635.ece

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Won`t be the primary fighter out there ..

J 10A in Tibet

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[Bornubus]

Won`t be the primary fighter out there ..

J 11 also been deployed for years now.

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Phew! No history repeat: China dispatched jets to scramble Indian aircraft along Arunachal border


On October 30, the defence brass of the two countries had some anxious moments after nuclear-armed Chinese fighter aircrafts were dispatched to scramble Indian jets flying in the Tawang region of Arunachal Pradesh.

Saurabh Shukla

New Delhi, November 29, 2012 | UPDATED 13:31 IST
India and China continue on the disputed boundary between the two neighbours, with the two sides flirting dangerously close to an accidental conflict on the 50th anniversary of the 1962 War.

On October 30, the defence brass of the two countries had some anxious moments after nuclear-armed Chinese fighter aircraft were dispatched to scramble Indian jets flying in the Tawang region of Arunachal Pradesh.

Sources say the incidents were reported by the Indian Air Force (IAF) to the defence ministry and a separate report by India's external intelligence agency, the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), was also filed on the affair.

Mail Today has in its possession the report on the incident.

Around 3pm on that day, some IAF jets were on a routine sortie mission in Arunachal Pradesh, when they were picked up on their Lhasa-based radar by the Chinese, senior officials privy to the deliberations following the incident said.

Alarmed by the Indian jets, the brass of the PLAAF, the Chinese Air Force, set off a chain reaction. This resulted in two Chinese Sukhoi-27 jets taking off from the Gonggar air base in Tibet within minutes.

After taking off around 3:04 pm, the Chinese aircraft flew southeast towards the direction of the Indian aircraft. There were some anxious moments on the Indian side when the Chinese aircraft were picked up on the radar at 3:29 pm near Cuona.

Officials say the drama lasted for around 50 minutes and just 30 km short of the international boundary- which is few seconds for a supersonic aircraft- the Chinese fighters, realising the IAF jets had no intention of an offensive move, turned back.

Sources said the RAW report, sent to the government on November 9, noted the unusual activity of the Chinese aircraft, which was described as a reaction of the Chinese against Indian activity in the Tawang sector.

While no actual scramble took place, what is scary about the affair is that the radars lost track of the Chinese aircraft twice while the Indian aircraft disappeared from the radar once. In a hostile situation, these incidents can lead to accidental triggers.

Sources told Mail Today, the Chinese Sukhoi-27 was provided tactical radar support by the 42 Radar Regiment of the PLAAF, which is deployed all over Tibet.

The PLAAF is the largest air force in Asia with close to 1,600 aircraft, and the Russian made Sukhoi-27 is a key strike fighter for the force.

China has been ramping up its strategic assets in Tibet for quick reaction in a war situation.

It already has five operational airfields at Gonggar, Pangta, Linchi, Hoping and Gar Gunsa.

The extension of the Qinghai Tibet Railway line to Xigaze and another line from Kashgar to Hotan in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region is also in progress.

Strategically, the Tibet Autonomous Region is pivotal for China's security as it comprises approximately one-fourth of China's land mass, and it continues to have aggressive deployments in the region.

While the new Chinese leadership led by Xi Jinping may not risk a war with India, the chances of a local commander triggering off a conflict cannot be ruled out given the growing intensity of the provocative incidents on the Line of Actual Control.

Mail Today has repeatedly flagged the clear and present danger emanating from China.

What New Delhi needs to do is ensure that a credible mechanism is in place which is operational between the two sides to avoid any accidental action by either side.

The fact is that there is a huge trust deficit between the two countries and a small error at an operational level on the boundary can lead to disastrous consequences for the two countries.


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[Screambowl]

J 10A in Tibet

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Looks like they are war hardened and can fool the radars for primitive strike. This was impressive.

 

[falcon82]

Bole So Nihal Sat Sri Akal

loved this post a lot, loved seeing the josh of our soldiers

 

[Floydian]

J 11 also been deployed for years now.

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Phew! No history repeat: China dispatched jets to scramble Indian aircraft along Arunachal border


On October 30, the defence brass of the two countries had some anxious moments after nuclear-armed Chinese fighter aircrafts were dispatched to scramble Indian jets flying in the Tawang region of Arunachal Pradesh.

Saurabh Shukla

New Delhi, November 29, 2012 | UPDATED 13:31 IST
India and China continue on the disputed boundary between the two neighbours, with the two sides flirting dangerously close to an accidental conflict on the 50th anniversary of the 1962 War.

On October 30, the defence brass of the two countries had some anxious moments after nuclear-armed Chinese fighter aircraft were dispatched to scramble Indian jets flying in the Tawang region of Arunachal Pradesh.

Sources say the incidents were reported by the Indian Air Force (IAF) to the defence ministry and a separate report by India's external intelligence agency, the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), was also filed on the affair.

Mail Today has in its possession the report on the incident.

Around 3pm on that day, some IAF jets were on a routine sortie mission in Arunachal Pradesh, when they were picked up on their Lhasa-based radar by the Chinese, senior officials privy to the deliberations following the incident said.

Alarmed by the Indian jets, the brass of the PLAAF, the Chinese Air Force, set off a chain reaction. This resulted in two Chinese Sukhoi-27 jets taking off from the Gonggar air base in Tibet within minutes.

After taking off around 3:04 pm, the Chinese aircraft flew southeast towards the direction of the Indian aircraft. There were some anxious moments on the Indian side when the Chinese aircraft were picked up on the radar at 3:29 pm near Cuona.

Officials say the drama lasted for around 50 minutes and just 30 km short of the international boundary- which is few seconds for a supersonic aircraft- the Chinese fighters, realising the IAF jets had no intention of an offensive move, turned back.

Sources said the RAW report, sent to the government on November 9, noted the unusual activity of the Chinese aircraft, which was described as a reaction of the Chinese against Indian activity in the Tawang sector.

While no actual scramble took place, what is scary about the affair is that the radars lost track of the Chinese aircraft twice while the Indian aircraft disappeared from the radar once. In a hostile situation, these incidents can lead to accidental triggers.

Sources told Mail Today, the Chinese Sukhoi-27 was provided tactical radar support by the 42 Radar Regiment of the PLAAF, which is deployed all over Tibet.

The PLAAF is the largest air force in Asia with close to 1,600 aircraft, and the Russian made Sukhoi-27 is a key strike fighter for the force.

China has been ramping up its strategic assets in Tibet for quick reaction in a war situation.

It already has five operational airfields at Gonggar, Pangta, Linchi, Hoping and Gar Gunsa.

The extension of the Qinghai Tibet Railway line to Xigaze and another line from Kashgar to Hotan in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region is also in progress.

Strategically, the Tibet Autonomous Region is pivotal for China's security as it comprises approximately one-fourth of China's land mass, and it continues to have aggressive deployments in the region.

While the new Chinese leadership led by Xi Jinping may not risk a war with India, the chances of a local commander triggering off a conflict cannot be ruled out given the growing intensity of the provocative incidents on the Line of Actual Control.

Mail Today has repeatedly flagged the clear and present danger emanating from China.

What New Delhi needs to do is ensure that a credible mechanism is in place which is operational between the two sides to avoid any accidental action by either side.

The fact is that there is a huge trust deficit between the two countries and a small error at an operational level on the boundary can lead to disastrous consequences for the two countries.


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Why would China launch "nuclear-armed" aircrafts to chase down ours, as per this report?? Also how can anyone ascertain if the enemy aircraft is indeed carrying nuclear weapons?

 

[Project Dharma]

Bole So Nihal Sat Sri Akal

@Bornubus ===============================================

MOD : Avoid mentioning specifics ..

 

[Screambowl]

so at 3 pm Indian jets were flying over tawang and immediately picked up by the Chinese radar
and at 3:04pm Chinese fighters, with nuclear armed..... were scrambled ?

within in 4 mins and nuclear armed....what the fuck?

this is some crap reporting...

J 11 also been deployed for years now.

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Phew! No history repeat: China dispatched jets to scramble Indian aircraft along Arunachal border


On October 30, the defence brass of the two countries had some anxious moments after nuclear-armed Chinese fighter aircrafts were dispatched to scramble Indian jets flying in the Tawang region of Arunachal Pradesh.

Saurabh Shukla

New Delhi, November 29, 2012 | UPDATED 13:31 IST
India and China continue on the disputed boundary between the two neighbours, with the two sides flirting dangerously close to an accidental conflict on the 50th anniversary of the 1962 War.

On October 30, the defence brass of the two countries had some anxious moments after nuclear-armed Chinese fighter aircraft were dispatched to scramble Indian jets flying in the Tawang region of Arunachal Pradesh.

Sources say the incidents were reported by the Indian Air Force (IAF) to the defence ministry and a separate report by India's external intelligence agency, the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), was also filed on the affair.

Mail Today has in its possession the report on the incident.

Around 3pm on that day, some IAF jets were on a routine sortie mission in Arunachal Pradesh, when they were picked up on their Lhasa-based radar by the Chinese, senior officials privy to the deliberations following the incident said.

Alarmed by the Indian jets, the brass of the PLAAF, the Chinese Air Force, set off a chain reaction. This resulted in two Chinese Sukhoi-27 jets taking off from the Gonggar air base in Tibet within minutes.

After taking off around 3:04 pm, the Chinese aircraft flew southeast towards the direction of the Indian aircraft. There were some anxious moments on the Indian side when the Chinese aircraft were picked up on the radar at 3:29 pm near Cuona.

Officials say the drama lasted for around 50 minutes and just 30 km short of the international boundary- which is few seconds for a supersonic aircraft- the Chinese fighters, realising the IAF jets had no intention of an offensive move, turned back.

Sources said the RAW report, sent to the government on November 9, noted the unusual activity of the Chinese aircraft, which was described as a reaction of the Chinese against Indian activity in the Tawang sector.

While no actual scramble took place, what is scary about the affair is that the radars lost track of the Chinese aircraft twice while the Indian aircraft disappeared from the radar once. In a hostile situation, these incidents can lead to accidental triggers.

Sources told Mail Today, the Chinese Sukhoi-27 was provided tactical radar support by the 42 Radar Regiment of the PLAAF, which is deployed all over Tibet.

The PLAAF is the largest air force in Asia with close to 1,600 aircraft, and the Russian made Sukhoi-27 is a key strike fighter for the force.

China has been ramping up its strategic assets in Tibet for quick reaction in a war situation.

It already has five operational airfields at Gonggar, Pangta, Linchi, Hoping and Gar Gunsa.

The extension of the Qinghai Tibet Railway line to Xigaze and another line from Kashgar to Hotan in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region is also in progress.

Strategically, the Tibet Autonomous Region is pivotal for China's security as it comprises approximately one-fourth of China's land mass, and it continues to have aggressive deployments in the region.

While the new Chinese leadership led by Xi Jinping may not risk a war with India, the chances of a local commander triggering off a conflict cannot be ruled out given the growing intensity of the provocative incidents on the Line of Actual Control.

Mail Today has repeatedly flagged the clear and present danger emanating from China.

What New Delhi needs to do is ensure that a credible mechanism is in place which is operational between the two sides to avoid any accidental action by either side.

The fact is that there is a huge trust deficit between the two countries and a small error at an operational level on the boundary can lead to disastrous consequences for the two countries.


====================================

 

[sandyx]

Around 3pm on that day, some IAF jets were on a routine sortie mission in Arunachal Pradesh, when they were picked up on their Lhasa-based radar by the Chinese

This resulted in two Chinese Sukhoi-27 jets taking off from the Gonggar air base in Tibet within minutes.

After taking off around 3:04 pm, the Chinese aircraft flew southeast towards the direction of the Indian aircraft. There were some anxious moments on the Indian side when the Chinese aircraft were picked up on the radar at 3:29 pm near Cuona.

Adding to what Screambowl posted above, it took us almost half an hour to detect incoming threat while the enemy did it in a few minutes? The report also mentions we lost track of both sides at least once. Is there a shortcoming on our side or is the enemy terrain too tough for the radar?

http://media2.intoday.in/indiatoday/images/stories//2012november/china_660_112912110606.jpg

This infographics although not to scale puts our crafts at a much larger distance when it was detected, while Cuona sits much closer to Gonggar.

 

[Mikesingh]

Chinese shoes packed in Tricolour boxes invite fury in Uttarakhand's Almora
Saturday, August 26, 2017 By: Web India 123 Source Link: CLICK HERE



Amid a tense standoff between India and China at Doklam, Chinese shoes packed in Tricolour boxes drew wrath in Uttarakhand's Almora.

The local shopkeepers in Uttarakhand's Almora informed the police that they had been delivered shoes in boxes bearing the Tricolour, allegedly from China following which police have started investigation.

Almora Senior Superintendent of Police P. Renuka Devi said putting the shoes in boxes with the national flag was an insult to the Tricolour.

The boxes have the Tricolour on top and the base carries some letters in Mandarin, police said, triggering speculation among locals that the move was aimed at humiliating Indians.

Renuka Devi said putting the shoes in boxes with the national flag was an insult to the Tricolour and that they were investigating the matter.

Udham Singh Nagar Senior Superintendent of Police Sadanand Date said the police questioned the owner of Tammana Traders in Rudrapur, who said that he bought the shoes from a distributor in Delhi and did not know their place of origin.

"We would be questioning the dealer in New Delhi to ascertain the origin of these shoes", said the SSP.

The case has been filed by the shopkeeper Bishan Bora against the shoe supplier of Rudrapur. Bora claimed as soon as he opened the consignment, he found only seven shoe pair in proper box and rest of the pairs came in the Tricolour box.

"I received the goods on Thursday and when I opened the bags, I was shocked. I called the police, sensing something wrong," said Bora, who filed the initial complaint.

http://www.defencenews.in/article/C...xes-invite-fury-in-Uttarakhands-Almora-283890

Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) district president of Almora Lalit Latwal asserted the administration swung into action after he intervened.

"As soon I received information about the consignment, I immediately requested administration to forfeit the boxes and act against those who are involved in insulting Indian flag. It looks like a bigger conspiracy. The party workers will keep an eye on the case until those culprits are not arrested" Latwal said.

How low can these lizards get? We should send them condoms painted with the Chinese flag but then we ain't low life reptilians like they are.

 

[Indibomber]

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Listen to the firing! Yeah log full burst par firing kar rahee thee kya??