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Wasim Shah,Saddam Padder are alive
and no information about Anees
Saddam Padder is likely to be made new Hizbul commander
 

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Next move by government should be to ban using loud speakers in the mosques in these problem districts of Kashmir.

Thereafter install CCTV cameras in all such mosques. Record all the sermons these mufties delivers during Friday prayers. In case any one inciting violence, immediately arrest him and put him in jail and let him fight a legal battle all his life. Send covert policemen in these prayers with recording devices and spy cameras. Record small chit chat and have intelligence gathering during these prayers.

Next revival of hard anti-terrorists law like we used to have during a period in past POTA. That was a very effective law. Congrssies and libtards removed it. Present government can revive it.

Have settlements of retired army officers families in Kashmir.

Abolish article 360. Let Hindus and Sikhs buy land in Kashmir. Make Hindus and Sikhs (less Muslims) settlements in these problem districts.

Reduce subsidies to these 4 problem districts and isolate them from other districts.

Arrest and put Huriyat leaders in jail (not house arrest please). Time to act tough against these traitors. Burn the houses of terrorists. Raze them to ground. Let their families face the heat. It will act as deterrent to Muslim youth from taking arms as they would know their families would have to pay for their acts.

Burn terrorists dead bodies with kerosene oil and deny burial as a matter of policy.

Fight in Supreme Court for arming village committees with arms for local defence and raise local force like ikwan
 

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Indian Army has domination over LoC and IB in Jammu and Kashmir: Defence Minister Arun Jaitley

NEW DELHI: The Indian Army is in "domination" along the full stretch of the Line of Control and the international border in Jammu and Kashmir and is "fully prepared" to deal with any security challenge, Defence Minister Arun Jaitley said today.

He said the internal situation in Pakistan is such that the country needs to keep alive the "tension" over the Kashmir issue, adding India had made sustained efforts to create an environment for talks.

Jaitley also defended an Army officer who had tied a man to a jeep as a human shield against stone-pelters in Kashmir last month, saying he must have taken the decision considering the ground realities.

Asked whether there is a possibility of escalation of the tension between the two countries, he said it was not possible to say about it.

"There is domination of our forces along LoC and the international border. All required steps are being taken by the Army to stop infiltration," Jaitley told DD News.

He also said Pakistan will have to pay a price for acts like beheading of Indian soldiers.

The defence minister said India made every effort to create an environment for talks but then the attacks on Pathankot and Uri military bases had taken place. He also cited mutilation of two soldiers by Pakistan and death sentence handed to Kulbhushan Jadhav by a Pakistani military court.

"Our army is fully prepared. I cannot make public the information I have. But I can say that our border and LoC are fully protected. The only priority of the army now is to not allow infiltration.

"We have domination over the LoC and IB and it will continue," he said.

Jaitley also asserted that India is not adopting softer approach in dealing with cross border terrorism.

Asked whether there is lack of coordination between Defence Ministry and armed forces, he replied in negative.

He said the strategic partnership model will boost the domestic defence industry.

"You cannot go around the world buying military equipment just when they are needed the most," he said.

The Union Cabinet earlier this week had given a go ahead to the 'strategic partnership' model under which select private firms will be engaged to build military platforms like fighter jets, submarines and battle tanks.

The new policy is expected to attract billions of dollars of investment in defence manufacturing by private defence majors including leading foreign firms.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...inister-arun-jaitley/articleshow/58873741.cms
 

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‘आने वाले कुछ दिनों में होगा भारत-पाकिस्तान के बीच सीमित गैर-परमाणु युद्ध’

काटजू ने फेसबुक पर आगे लिखा है कि आतंकवादियों के प्रति इस सहानुभूति से निपटने के लिये सेना या सीआरपीएफ उन कुछ लोगों पर हमला करेंगे जिनपर उन्हें संदेह है कि आतंकवादियों को कुछ मदद या जानकारी दे रहे हैं। इसके परिणामस्वरूप नरसंहार...

India TV News Desk [Updated:26 May 2017, 10:21 AM]

जस्टिस मार्कंडेय काटजू ने अगले कुछ दिनों में भारत-पाकिस्तान के बीच ‘सीमित गैर-परमाणु युद्ध’ होने की भविष्यवाणी की है। फेसबुक पर लिखे अपने पोस्ट में काटजू ने कहा कि कश्मीरी आतंकवादी भारतीय सेना और सीआरपीएफ पर छोटे-छोटे हमले करते रहेंगे जिससे कुछ भारतीय सुरक्षाकर्मी हर बार मारे गए। कश्मीर की आबादी भारत के लिये लगभग पूरी तरह शत्रुतापूर्ण है, और इसलिए आतंकवादियों के प्रति सहानुभूति रखते हैं। इसी वजह से कश्मीरी जनता आतंकवादियों को आश्रय, भोजन और सूचना देती रहती है। ये भी पढ़ें: PM मोदी ने बताया क्यों नहीं पहनते मुसलमानों की टोपी, वायरल हो रहा है वीडियो

काटजू ने फेसबुक पर आगे लिखा है कि आतंकवादियों के प्रति इस सहानुभूति से निपटने के लिये सेना या सीआरपीएफ उन कुछ लोगों पर हमला करेंगे जिनपर उन्हें संदेह है कि आतंकवादियों को कुछ मदद या जानकारी दे रहे हैं। इसके परिणामस्वरूप नरसंहार की घटनाएं बढ़ेगी जैसा कि वियतनाम में हुआ था। इस कारण भारतीय सुरक्षा बलों और कश्मीरी जनता के बीच दुश्मनी बढ़ती जाएगी और अधिक गैर-लड़ाके आतंकवाद अपनाते जाएंगे।

एक समय आ जाएगा जब एक टेट-प्रकार आक्रामक, जैसा कि वियतनाम में जनवरी 1 9 68 में हुआ था, के रुप में हमारे सैनिकों पर कश्मीरी आतंकवादियों द्वारा शुरू किया जा सकता है जिसमें यदि हज़ारों नहीं तो सैकड़ों की संख्या में लोग हताहत होंगे और संभवत: भारतीय सेना आतंकवादियों के शिविरों को नष्ट करने के बहाने LoC को पार करेगी लेकिन इस बार पाकिस्तानी सेना के तैयार रहने की वजह से 'सर्जिकल स्ट्राइक' संभव नहीं हो पायेगा जिसका मतलब होगा एक सीमित युद्ध है।

कुछ समय बाद संयुक्त राष्ट्र सुरक्षा परिषद युद्ध विराम की मांग करेगी, लेकिन उस समय तक दोनों पक्षों के हजारों सैनिक मारे जा चुके होंगे। इस युद्ध के नतीजे का उपमहाद्वीप में लंबे समय तक असर रहेगा।
http://www.khabarindiatv.com/india/...ser-to-us-says-justice-markandey-katju-517667
 

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"Son of a school headmaster" to "heartbroken lover," or why Republic TV surged to the top-spot in 2 weeks:


But sure, this is India's fault. Indian animal husbandry dept officials failed to shag him with a suitable mate.
I had a life 10 times tougher than his but i didnt become a terrorist.

These all are excuses by the people who have sympathy for such pests.
 

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It only implies one thing, we have to keep them busy by bombing there shelters or posts. At any given time , they will think of retribution if they are not busy.

This only happens when army thinks, enough of enemy blood? .

We should *keep them busy* one way or other.

If you think peace , they will transform back into zombies.

Try to find out different ways that we can keep them busy hidding for cover.

1. One way is loc paki posts shelling.

What are the other options??? Only biggies can decide

But i can clearly tell our response is not sufficient, because ispr didn't declare there real number of casualties. Thats the threshold we have to reach before we can think of ceasefires.
Maj. Gaurav Arya has said that we must follow a 'grass cutting' doctrine. Pakistan produces brainwashed jihadis, sends it to training camps and when they are ready, we must kill them. Keep cutting the grass as it grows.

Killing them at the indoctrination stage itself is a task for the intel agencies. It's a massive task to prevent Pakistan from receiving billions in aid from Saudi Arabia. Even the Pakistani authorities themselves are unable to curb it and it is getting worrisome for them. One day G Parthasarthy asked a Paki ISI general "what is that mosque?" and the general said
"it's the village mosque for all Muslims to pray",
"why is there another mosque right next to it",
"that is a Wahabbi mosque created separately by them, for them. Only Wahabbis go there, the administration is all Wahabbi and others are not allowed to lead prayers"

It's not like the Wahabbis are giving the aid for free. They are splitting Pakistani society right in the middle. It is actually good for us. Instead of going to school and learning physics and building commercial products to compete with Indian products, the Pakistanis are becoming terrorists. They will start killing their own civilians first, for straying away from Islam.

 

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Great, so India could use its back-channels with Pak to get the whereabouts of Zakir Musa, and take him out.
 

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Maj. Gaurav Arya has said that we must follow a 'grass cutting' doctrine. Pakistan produces brainwashed jihadis, sends it to training camps and when they are ready, we must kill them. Keep cutting the grass as it grows.

Killing them at the indoctrination stage itself is a task for the intel agencies. It's a massive task to prevent Pakistan from receiving billions in aid from Saudi Arabia. Even the Pakistani authorities themselves are unable to curb it and it is getting worrisome for them. One day G Parthasarthy asked a Paki ISI general "what is that mosque?" and the general said
"it's the village mosque for all Muslims to pray",
"why is there another mosque right next to it",
"that is a Wahabbi mosque created separately by them, for them. Only Wahabbis go there, the administration is all Wahabbi and others are not allowed to lead prayers"

It's not like the Wahabbis are giving the aid for free. They are splitting Pakistani society right in the middle. It is actually good for us. Instead of going to school and learning physics and building commercial products to compete with Indian products, the Pakistanis are becoming terrorists. They will start killing their own civilians first, for straying away from Islam.

Saudi are the root of the terrorism in the world. It's about time India must return the favour. Raw must be activated to prepare for ground work for the fall of Saudi royals.

Oil glut will soon stop a lot of Saudi money from flowing abroad but the real solution lies in absolute Chaos in Saudi heartland. They must experience what afgans , Yemen's and Syrians have suffered. We must put effort to forment unrest in Arabia.

USA doctrine of an ever burning middle East makes sense to be we just need to adjust it to burn the Saudis too.
 

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Saudi are the root of the terrorism in the world. It's about time India must return the favour. Raw must be activated to prepare for ground work for the fall of Saudi royals.
The Saudi royals have already been infiltrated, honeytrapped, blackmailed and arm twisted. They have no authority to take any independent decisions. The Saudi royal family is like a hollow shell. It is being puppeteered by the CIA. Notice how they sold 300 B worth of weapons. 300B is not an arms sale, 300B is the kind of money a country spends on its own protectorate. No one gives so many arms to any 'other nation'. Saudi Arabia belongs to the US like Bhutan belongs to India, in all practical terms.

The US, in 2015 has become self-sufficient in oil (0% of its oil comes from foreign imports of oil), and in 2016, it was not just self sufficient but a net exporter of oil (even India has agreed to buy Shael gas and just last week there was a news that the Shael pipe from US to India will be laid soon). So this 'oil card' does not work against the US but the US can use this oil card against other nations which are dependent on Saudi oil, and so the US will never leave Saudi and never allow it to 'collapse'. It is like a corporate business house to them, the slave labor works, produces output, the master takes it and sells it, and in exchange the master protects his slaves.

If we want to bring the Saudis down, we will need to count the US out and do it ourselves with Russia (they hate Saudis for oil price competition)
 

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The Saudi royals have already been infiltrated, honeytrapped, blackmailed and arm twisted. They have no authority to take any independent decisions. The Saudi royal family is like a hollow shell. It is being puppeteered by the CIA. Notice how they sold 300 B worth of weapons. 300B is not an arms sale, 300B is the kind of money a country spends on its own protectorate. No one gives so many arms to any 'other nation'. Saudi Arabia belongs to the US like Bhutan belongs to India, in all practical terms.

The US, in 2015 has become self-sufficient in oil (0% of its oil comes from foreign imports of oil), and in 2016, it was not just self sufficient but a net exporter of oil (even India has agreed to buy Shael gas and just last week there was a news that the Shael pipe from US to India will be laid soon). So this 'oil card' does not work against the US but the US can use this oil card against other nations which are dependent on Saudi oil, and so the US will never leave Saudi and never allow it to 'collapse'. It is like a corporate business house to them, the slave labor works, produces output, the master takes it and sells it, and in exchange the master protects his slaves.

If we want to bring the Saudis down, we will need to count the US out and do it ourselves with Russia (they hate Saudis for oil price competition)
Your point of 300 billion usd arms sales is understandable.But what i found quite complicated is how do we take down USofA.

It has the only armed forces in the world that can fight anywhere,owns entire europe and pacific asia.

For starters,we better support anything that changes the current world order and after that?????
your thoughts
 

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The Saudi royals have already been infiltrated, honeytrapped, blackmailed and arm twisted. They have no authority to take any independent decisions. The Saudi royal family is like a hollow shell. It is being puppeteered by the CIA. Notice how they sold 300 B worth of weapons. 300B is not an arms sale, 300B is the kind of money a country spends on its own protectorate. No one gives so many arms to any 'other nation'. Saudi Arabia belongs to the US like Bhutan belongs to India, in all practical terms.

The US, in 2015 has become self-sufficient in oil (0% of its oil comes from foreign imports of oil), and in 2016, it was not just self sufficient but a net exporter of oil (even India has agreed to buy Shael gas and just last week there was a news that the Shael pipe from US to India will be laid soon). So this 'oil card' does not work against the US but the US can use this oil card against other nations which are dependent on Saudi oil, and so the US will never leave Saudi and never allow it to 'collapse'. It is like a corporate business house to them, the slave labor works, produces output, the master takes it and sells it, and in exchange the master protects his slaves.

If we want to bring the Saudis down, we will need to count the US out and do it ourselves with Russia (they hate Saudis for oil price competition)
There are many more things regarding oil empire and USA Saudi relationship. But we will perhaps need a dedicated thread for discussion on such matter.

Your point of 300 billion usd arms sales is understandable.But what i found quite complicated is how do we take down USofA.

It has the only armed forces in the world that can fight anywhere,owns entire europe and pacific asia.

For starters,we better support anything that changes the current world order and after that?????
your thoughts
We wait !!! Just like a child must grow up first. We are simply not in the league now.
But like I said these discussions are off topic for this thread.
 
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