Let's test ChatGPT.. OpenAI/ChatGPT News, Updates and Discussions

[sydsnyper]

Friends, I was trying to study something about Mughal Maratha war for my niece's HomeWork and I think CHATGPT is spurring out pure nonsense

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There was no Maratha Empire in 1658.The battle of Samugarh was a primary infighting between two Mughal princes.Besides, the battle of Panipat fought between Durranis and Marathas

Glad they did not say that Sahaji's father and Shahjahan were drinking buddies and one day Shahaji Sr. forgot to pay the bill and hence the mughals attacked Maharashtra.

 

[angryIndian]

Glad they did not say that Sahaji's father and Shahjahan were drinking buddies and one day Shahaji Sr. forgot to pay the bill and hence the mughals attacked Maharashtra.

At the end of the day, an algorithm is as good as the dataset it is being provided with.The bulk of the Internet from where CHATGPT gets is corpus is full of fake information.

So you have to be careful and not take everything GPT outputs at face value.

 

[angryIndian]

Nothing is safe from AI

 

[here2where]

"Sam, we have got a very vibrant ecosystem in India, but specifically focussing on AI, are there spaces where you see a startup from India building foundational (AI) models how should we think about that, where is it that a team from India (should start) to actually build something truly substantial?" asked the former Vice President of Google in India and South East Asia.

Altman emphasized once again that competing with OpenAI is an impossible feat, stating, "We will explicitly tell you that it's completely hopeless to challenge us in training foundational models, and you shouldn't even attempt it. However, it is your responsibility to still make the attempt, and I genuinely hold both of these perspectives. I genuinely believe that the chances of success are quite slim."

really?

 

[AnantS]

"Sam, we have got a very vibrant ecosystem in India, but specifically focussing on AI, are there spaces where you see a startup from India building foundational (AI) models how should we think about that, where is it that a team from India (should start) to actually build something truly substantial?" asked the former Vice President of Google in India and South East Asia.

Altman emphasized once again that competing with OpenAI is an impossible feat, stating, "We will explicitly tell you that it's completely hopeless to challenge us in training foundational models, and you shouldn't even attempt it. However, it is your responsibility to still make the attempt, and I genuinely hold both of these perspectives. I genuinely believe that the chances of success are quite slim."

really?

Do you have a global data mining ecosystem to fuel your models? Thats the place from where that haughty answer comes for which is not far from truth until India creates ecosystem and mandatory makes people use just like China.

 

[here2where]

Do you have a global data mining ecosystem to fuel your models? Thats the place from where that haughty answer comes for which is not far from truth until India creates ecosystem and mandatory makes people use just like China.

lots of $$$

 

[AnantS]

lots of $$$

So you are DFI's resident Scrooge Mcduck

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[tommy]

Do you have a global data mining ecosystem to fuel your models? Thats the place from where that haughty answer comes for which is not far from truth until India creates ecosystem and mandatory makes people use just like China.

Do they acquire data legally?

 

[AnantS]

Do they acquire data legally?

Can they admit that they acquire data illegally? Its a Govt backed project.

 

[tommy]

Can they admit that they acquire data illegally? Its a Govt backed project.

Did not knew ChatGPT was a government backed project. And do we have the human resource capable of building those models?

 

[AnantS]

Did not knew ChatGPT was a government backed project. And do we have the human resource capable of building those models?

Know this all disruptive technologies which have been used for social engineering - there is a Govt hand in it.

Models can be built in time. But where are you going to huge data for training?

 

[mokoman]

"Sam, we have got a very vibrant ecosystem in India, but specifically focussing on AI, are there spaces where you see a startup from India building foundational (AI) models how should we think about that, where is it that a team from India (should start) to actually build something truly substantial?" asked the former Vice President of Google in India and South East Asia.

Altman emphasized once again that competing with OpenAI is an impossible feat, stating, "We will explicitly tell you that it's completely hopeless to challenge us in training foundational models, and you shouldn't even attempt it. However, it is your responsibility to still make the attempt, and I genuinely hold both of these perspectives. I genuinely believe that the chances of success are quite slim."

really?

chatgpt 3 is 170 billion parameter model . a abu dhabi research institute made a 40 billion parameter chat ai thing thats on par with what google has and similar performance to chatgpt 3 - and its opensouce , anyone can download and use it . really impressive .

if we had any sense we would be pumping money and trying to build a home grown model but we dont have the political will / common sense for that . we r gonna be a slave to whatever ai thing the west makes .

 

[nongaddarliberal]

Do you have a global data mining ecosystem to fuel your models? Thats the place from where that haughty answer comes for which is not far from truth until India creates ecosystem and mandatory makes people use just like China.

The Irony is Indian companies have access to a tremendous amount of US data through our IT outscourcing services in terms of their bank details, purchasing patterns, media usage, etc. These things are processed by our IT industry. But we have not used this to our advantage.

 

[tommy]

The Irony is Indian companies have access to a tremendous amount of US data through our IT outscourcing services in terms of their bank details, purchasing patterns, media usage, etc. These things are processed by our IT industry. But we have not used this to our advantage.

Using them would be business risk for company as well as rest of IT outsourcing business.

 

[AnantS]

The Irony is Indian companies have access to a tremendous amount of US data through our IT outscourcing services in terms of their bank details, purchasing patterns, media usage, etc. These things are processed by our IT industry. But we have not used this to our advantage.

You cant- as IT companies are bound by NDA with their customers
Rarely people get to work on actual customer data unless they are techsupport.
There is no law in Indeed unlike US where companies need to create backdoor for govt to soak trons.
More over IT companies are not product companies.
So barring making chat gpt like solution for some scenarios business use cases, you wont see a comprehensive gpt like product out of them getting as popular or as accurate.

 

[nongaddarliberal]

Using them would be business risk for company as well as rest of IT outsourcing business.

This is where back doors with intelligence services come in. Our RAW guys are too focussed on 20th century understanding of what a spy agency does, and have not been trying to keep up with what the western intelligence services are doing in terms of data collection through backdoor agreements with their tech firms.

This data can then be reprocessed back to Indian firms to give them a market advantage, while there needs to be a concurrent effort to develop the AI tools to make sense of this mass data.

 

[Suryavanshi]

The Irony is Indian companies have access to a tremendous amount of US data through our IT outscourcing services in terms of their bank details, purchasing patterns, media usage, etc. These things are processed by our IT industry. But we have not used this to our advantage.

Do you think US companies would let us have a crack at it?
To naive you are.

 

[nongaddarliberal]

Do you think US companies would let us have a crack at it?
To naive you are.

The data is already with us. It's now on us to re route in inside the country. Everyone is accessing everyone's data. The Chinese are collecting American data to their hearts content and the Americans can do nothing about it.

 

[Suryavanshi]

The data is already with us. It's now on us to re route in inside the country. Everyone is accessing everyone's data.

You want 25 million IT coolies to lose their jobs?

 

[nongaddarliberal]

You want 25 million IT coolies to lose their jobs?

Again, the US has already given access to our companies for this data through their outsourcing. Our IT coolies already have all the bank details, transaction details, purchasing habits, text messages, personal info etc in their own servers. Now if India can't run a covert program on this, then Sam Altman is quite right in his snide remarks about us.