Kulbhushan Jadhav - Developments

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Off topic/Irrelevant posts have been deleted.
Lets stick to the topic.
They are still there, what offtopic posts you are talking about?

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Why do you think it matters? Pakis are the crazy people who think they won in '65. They don't bother will logic and neither does their jahil populace.


Kulbhushan Ji , as per Paki dogs' reports , carried an Indian passport without Paki visa. Why would an ex Naval officer carry Indian passport inside Pakistan without Pakistani Visa if he is a spy?
 

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Doesn't look paki media establishment knew about it, upfront...
it was a surprise for them too...
 

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Doesn't look paki media establishment knew about it, upfront...
it was a surprise for them too...
yes most probably because they also made that verdict in panic as a response to their missing man.

So it happened like, in both the cases, both the govt didn't know what the agencies are upto.
 

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Praveen swami's version of the story...

Behind Kulbhushan Jadhav veil, some glimpses

Kulbhushan Jadhav, the former Indian Navy officer sentenced to death by a military court in Pakistan on Sunday, approached the Research and Analysis Wing (R&AW) several times between 2010 and 2012 offering his services as a freelance intelligence operative, three highly placed officers who served in the organisation at the time have told The Indian Express.

However, the officers said, the offers were rejected by R&AW, which saw Jadhav as too much of a risk.

Governments in three countries, India, Iran and Pakistan, have conducted investigations, but not disclosed their findings, while the Jadhav family has refused multiple requests for interviews.

Jadhav made his first pitch to work for R&AW, sources at the meeting in New Delhi said, in the summer of 2010. He offered the use of his dhow, the Kaminda, to gather intelligence on Pakistan’s fledgling port project at Gwadar. The proposal, the sources said, received a polite but sceptical hearing by R&AW’s Pakistan Desk, which directly handles Pakistan-related operations, and a Joint Secretary familiar with covert operations. Both appraisers concluded R&AW had little interest in Jadhav’s intelligence-gathering proposals.

“I am not prepared to discuss the specifics of any intelligence-related conversations or contacts,” said Anand Arni, the long-serving head of R&AW’s Pakistan Desk, who retired in 2012. “I will only repeat what I said on Monday which is that Jadhav was not an asset of the agency. You are free to believe or disbelieve me.”

From accounts offered by the intelligence officers — one still serving, and two retired — the story began in December 2001, when Jadhav had just retired.

The son of a retired police officer, Assistant Commissioner of Police Sudhir Jadhav, with an uncle involved in the private security business, Jadhav, at the end of 14 years service as an engineer in the Navy, at the rank of Commander, decided to set up a business in Iran’s Chabahar free trade zone.

Though Chabahar had been touted as a economic boom-town, where India hoped to have significant economic equities, the reality proved different: United States economic sanctions led New Delhi to back away from promised investments; road and rail lines linking the port to Afghanistan and Central Asia were never built.

Jadhav, who had sunk his life’s savings into the Kaminda, struggled to make ends meet, stumping up only meagre business ferrying scrap metal and fertilisers.


Jadhav conducted his business in Iran using an illegally obtained Indian passport, E6934766, identifying him by the pseudonym Hussein Mubarak Patel. The passport, whose existence was first revealed by The Indian Express, gave an incomplete address. Later, in 2014, Jadhav obtained a second passport, this time giving the address of a flat in Thane owned by his mother, Avanti Jadhav. Local residents, however, knew him by his pseudonym, Husein Patel.

“He was in fairly tight financial circumstances when he contacted R&AW through common contacts in the Navy around 2010”, an officer then serving on the organisation’s Pakistan desk recalls.

Following this early contact, R&AW sources said, Jadhav made further attempts to establish a formal relationship with Indian intelligence in 2013, but again without success.

In a videotape released by Pakistan’s military last year, Jadhav says he was recruited by R&AW in 2013, 10 years after setting up his base in Chabahar. However, there is no officer, past or present, bearing the name he cites as his handler — Joint Secretary Anil Kumar Gupta.

In the videotape, Jadhav also claims he had contact with National Security Advisor Ajit Kumar Doval, who served as Director of the Intelligence Bureau in 2004-2005, before taking up his current assignment in 2014. There is no evidence, though of such contact, and intelligence insiders said it was profoundly unlikely an intelligence service’s asset would be granted an audience with the NSA.

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/behind-kulbhushan-jadhav-veil-some-glimpses-4609621/
 

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Praveen swami's version of the story...

Behind Kulbhushan Jadhav veil, some glimpses

Kulbhushan Jadhav, the former Indian Navy officer sentenced to death by a military court in Pakistan on Sunday, approached the Research and Analysis Wing (R&AW) several times between 2010 and 2012 offering his services as a freelance intelligence operative, three highly placed officers who served in the organisation at the time have told The Indian Express.

However, the officers said, the offers were rejected by R&AW, which saw Jadhav as too much of a risk.

Governments in three countries, India, Iran and Pakistan, have conducted investigations, but not disclosed their findings, while the Jadhav family has refused multiple requests for interviews.

Jadhav made his first pitch to work for R&AW, sources at the meeting in New Delhi said, in the summer of 2010. He offered the use of his dhow, the Kaminda, to gather intelligence on Pakistan’s fledgling port project at Gwadar. The proposal, the sources said, received a polite but sceptical hearing by R&AW’s Pakistan Desk, which directly handles Pakistan-related operations, and a Joint Secretary familiar with covert operations. Both appraisers concluded R&AW had little interest in Jadhav’s intelligence-gathering proposals.

“I am not prepared to discuss the specifics of any intelligence-related conversations or contacts,” said Anand Arni, the long-serving head of R&AW’s Pakistan Desk, who retired in 2012. “I will only repeat what I said on Monday which is that Jadhav was not an asset of the agency. You are free to believe or disbelieve me.”

From accounts offered by the intelligence officers — one still serving, and two retired — the story began in December 2001, when Jadhav had just retired.

The son of a retired police officer, Assistant Commissioner of Police Sudhir Jadhav, with an uncle involved in the private security business, Jadhav, at the end of 14 years service as an engineer in the Navy, at the rank of Commander, decided to set up a business in Iran’s Chabahar free trade zone.

Though Chabahar had been touted as a economic boom-town, where India hoped to have significant economic equities, the reality proved different: United States economic sanctions led New Delhi to back away from promised investments; road and rail lines linking the port to Afghanistan and Central Asia were never built.

Jadhav, who had sunk his life’s savings into the Kaminda, struggled to make ends meet, stumping up only meagre business ferrying scrap metal and fertilisers.


Jadhav conducted his business in Iran using an illegally obtained Indian passport, E6934766, identifying him by the pseudonym Hussein Mubarak Patel. The passport, whose existence was first revealed by The Indian Express, gave an incomplete address. Later, in 2014, Jadhav obtained a second passport, this time giving the address of a flat in Thane owned by his mother, Avanti Jadhav. Local residents, however, knew him by his pseudonym, Husein Patel.

“He was in fairly tight financial circumstances when he contacted R&AW through common contacts in the Navy around 2010”, an officer then serving on the organisation’s Pakistan desk recalls.

Following this early contact, R&AW sources said, Jadhav made further attempts to establish a formal relationship with Indian intelligence in 2013, but again without success.

In a videotape released by Pakistan’s military last year, Jadhav says he was recruited by R&AW in 2013, 10 years after setting up his base in Chabahar. However, there is no officer, past or present, bearing the name he cites as his handler — Joint Secretary Anil Kumar Gupta.

In the videotape, Jadhav also claims he had contact with National Security Advisor Ajit Kumar Doval, who served as Director of the Intelligence Bureau in 2004-2005, before taking up his current assignment in 2014. There is no evidence, though of such contact, and intelligence insiders said it was profoundly unlikely an intelligence service’s asset would be granted an audience with the NSA.

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/behind-kulbhushan-jadhav-veil-some-glimpses-4609621/
WTF fuck this complete sabotage

You mean to say any body can contact R&AW like this

He intelligently gives away notion of he has Free lance

Pakistan media use it as tool swami tell us he has relationship with R&AW operative
 

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The sooner this Paki Col story disappears from media the better- these India Today clowns are doing great damage- these morons are a bigger threat than Paki NDTV-

And It is in India's benifit that Pakis kill Kulbhushan Sir- It would be a great loss- But his sacrifice won't go in vain-
I too believe this .
However it's high time we changed our policy and create a new Mossad type agency which would have logistic support enough to conduct operation Behind Enemy Lines with full force.
 

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DIA?can you explain a bit please?
RAW generally recruits assets from civilian back ground which is likely to be unknown to the advisory
DIA recruits from military back ground to handle military specific problems more easily
Yadav ji is claimed to be ex MARCO...military background
 

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According to Indian Express,‘Missing’ Pakistan operative was in team that trapped Kulbhushan Jadhav
 

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"We still doubt whether he even faced a trial or not. I even think that without any military trial, he was awarded a death sentence and Pakistan is just making story. It can even happen that they tortured him so much that he died and now, they are fabricating a story around it. We will demand that they should show us an alive Kulbhushan Jadhav first," Singh told ANI.

(nobody has seen him since last one year , the repeated requests for his councilling has been ignored !!!)
 
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May be Kulbhushanji was a compromised asset who has no links with intelligence establishment and desperate to save his businesses from external pressures. Kulbhushanji who is in business in Iran probably approached by pakistanis in a plot to defame Indians internationally (which is not working). Now Pakistanis cant give him to Indians (they will be exposed ). Hence death sentence or he may be killed by them already. Its a complete pak plot

Now Pakistanis officer missing, they became desperate to capture our fisherman and throwing offers to Indians to get confirmation where there operative dissappeared.

Pakistanis by going public, they are dragging Indian public attention on kulbhushanji to pressurise Indians and to know if we ever had there operative.

One thing is sure kulbhushanji will not be given back dead or alive.

Hope we have pakistani officer. There are chances he might be kidnapped by other nations intelligence too (Bangladesh). Because pakis are getting very active to replace puppet successors after sheik hassina.

I understand Indians are being pulled in to public attention because pakistan is clueless what happened to its asset.

Its worth to check how many articles are popping up in google news and narrative was building up.
 

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