No. it will be situation when NATO forces against Russians say few decades later. But if you talk of the next decade, we shall probably be talking how the plane with much potential F-35 came short against PAKFA, Going by what detail is available as of now. PAKFA vs F-35, its clearly F-35 which will end up losing in air to air battle, F-22 and PAKFA would be close affair with maybe the spoils going to PAKFA simply because it uses newer tech that is available now instead of the cutting edge tech that was available almost 2 decades ago.
NATO is a spent force with cracks already in it, NATO within few years will be mostly European countries minus USA.America does not want to spend its money to keep its troops in Europe, they want the Europeans to pay for it else to muster its own troops, which is understandable, but NATO was formed so that the Americans can hit the russians without being effected directly and Europe being a buffer zone.
Technologically, F-22 the first 5th gen plane, the other western 5th gen plane is F-35 and the NATO countries except UK are just buyers. Further, the use of F-35 will be controlled entirely by the Americans, if they dont want, the plane cannot even take off. So if you buy this plane, its good and you have to cede to every American demand, just in case they kill the switch.
This scenario will happen if Half of America fight against other half of America, well these so called VLO and Active cancellation tech's are available on the Hands of US and West or simply on the NATO hands
NATO won't going to out tech by others, be it Russians or Chinese. Well this going to change in a decade again NATO brings some new tech to overmatch the enemy
The scenario that you seem to be assuming is that Pakistan is entirely incompetent. There would be long range ground Radars tracking it, And there would be F-16 and JF-17 scrambled to intercept, Also maybe you do not seem to understand that PAF also has Eyerie. Maybe your assumptiion is that the moment Su-30 MKI takes in PAF territory they would simply ground all planes? By the way, It seems you assume far too much. So any plane that comes within PAF area will be tracked by multiple radars and the planes would be sent from different bases to try and intercept it, So the only advantage here that Su-30 MKI would have better detecion range and better speed, but when planes are coming from different directions, these advantages become smaller. Then both set of planes, end up being in range in which the Su-30 MKI radar advantage stops being an advantage.
It is not like you say my friend, when Chinese plane is detected over India, the squadron closest will be sent to intercept, you would be very stupid to suggest that only MKI or Rafale be sent to intercept it. You expect the chinese planes to wait for lunch also?
Well due to its Radar power and Range, MKI can scan the area beyond the F 16 and JF 17 range, The MKI pilot won't worry about he caught by enemy buy its RWR, The MKI pilot detect the enemy first and fire his long Range BVR at maximum range,
What will the enemy JF 17 and F 16 do, they try for evasive maneuvers, and yet its all about luck and enemy pilots skill, either he save his ass and million $ plane or rest in pieces .
In case of China the whole concept become opposite, we have to face the real air war, MKI vs Chinese Su 30 clone, Here skills and knowledge only saves.. The Chinese almost equal or bit higher than our tech
Again if we send our LCA or any other Light aircraft to intercept Chinese flankers, the above said paki scenario will appear
when we face the PLAAF, we should send our MKI or Rafale
Yep, agreed...well again if the JF 17 want to fire his BVR it must get the MKI on its Radar range, by the meantime if MKI found caught by enemy radar, he might escape if he has no BVR.
Hilarious reply, You really should take your head out, its far too deep that you dont even know whats going on around, let me break it up for you
Tejas was developed to replace the aging MiG-21 interceptor/fighter, but then IAF was bitten by Multi role bug, Anyway, Tejas was already being developed like an MRCA be able to conduct interception, strikes etc. Now few of the test pilots who are testing Tejas are experienced pilots who have used Mirage 2000 as well and thos Test pilots inform that Tejas is far superior even Mirage 2000. You are right, Tejas cannot be compared to French junk called Mirage 2000.
well I don't want to fight again, Please don't compare the Tejas with Mirage, keep it with MIG 21 only
Jaguar was developed when the concept was prevalent and the belief was there that air forces need specialised plane for different roles. Thus USAF had F-86, F-104 as fighters and F-105 was a strike plane. F-14 was mainly a fighter, and needed A-7 Crusader as Attack craft. Jaguar was developed when missiles were not that accurate or efficient. So to ensure that the target is destroyed, the plane has to fly close to the target and bomb it (to increase the chance of success) and for a plane to evade various radar systems, it was important for a plane to fly below these radars and evade them. When a plane is flying low, the glide bomb technically has no use. Glide bombs are useful when used from high flying planes to increase the range, if you drop a glide bomb from say 200 ft from ground, dont expect it to travel 10 kms.
Now with advent of better missiles A2G as well as SAMs, planes like Jaguar will find it very difficult to fly very low without risking being shot down.Or maybe you discounted MANPADS.
Those Jags are primarily designed for ground strike by the Europeans, even they don't have radar, they use passive guidance for attack and survival, they fly low to evade the Soviet SAM's in Iraq, Hence they proved its effect
well these Jaguars now going to receive AESA Radar and already got modern ASRAAM, Its less chance to use Jags against PLA, But for against Pakistan its a low cost high performance killer machine.
damn they were armed with Harpoons, CBU 105, and the latest Garudama , Garuthma Glide bombs
FGFA is the need of the hour, AMCA is not going to be ready for the next 15 years and this is just prototype, And our neighbourhood already have 5th gen planes being developed and in LRIP. Only stupid people can have the benefit to assume that the enemy is incompetent. Fortunately, there are few like you. Older Sukhoi were Su-30 MK which were already upgraded to Su-30 MKI and then these planes would be upgraded to Super MKI, which would give them AESA and other modern avionics which are the need of the hour. And which makes it more capable than Rafale in most aspects.
So, India would have to go for PAKFA/FGFA to ensure its position in subcontinent and to deter China or Pakistan taking us for Granted, and AMCA would be developed during this time.
Likely,
Well I think all our older Sukhoi are upgraded into MKI Standard only,
scrap FGFA and make AMCA as stealth dual engine Mirage, not a stealth Jagaur type
- peaking humility by the way.
