Japan's population dropped by nearly a million in 2022 and rapidly ages because Japanese women are too uppity and too greedy to date men and have kids

[JaguarWarrior]

 

[SKC]

It's both men and Women in Japan who chose to not have family and kids.

The work culture is brutal, you are expected to put in long hours at work.

This is an issue plaguing both Japan and South Korea.

 

[JaguarWarrior]

It's both men and Women in Japan who chose to not have family and kids.

The work culture is brutal, you are expected to put in long hours at work.

This is an issue plaguing both Japan and South Korea.

Japan's golden age was the 60s to the 80s during the Cold War. Back then Japanese had spirit. Now Japanese don't have spirit. Lazy.

 

[SKC]

East Asia's golden period is long gone!

The maxed out growth already, newer generation has no incentive to earn more and tired of taking care of elderly.

 

[1971ftw]

Japan's golden age was the 60s to the 80s during the Cold War. Back then Japanese had spirit. Now Japanese don't have spirit. Lazy.

Just because Japan doesn't want to breed like rats doesn't make them lazy, Japan is the 4th largest economy, and will hold that title for a long time to come.

 

[SKC]

Just because Japan doesn't want to breed like rats doesn't make them lazy, Japan is the 4th largest economy, and will hold that title for a long time to come.

They are below sustainable Population rate. You don't need to breed like rats to maintain sustainable population.
Their population reduced by 8lacs last year.
At one time they reached like 70% of US GDP and were thought to overtake US. Then Sh*t happened.

 

[Johny_Baba]

Just because Japan doesn't want to breed like rats doesn't make them lazy, Japan is the 4th largest economy, and will hold that title for a long time to come.

they are overinflated economy, their debt to gdp ratio is astronomically high, now must be nearing 300 percent, thanks to all greed that they had cultivated and unkil sam's arm twisting with the plaza accords they are mostly a bubble economy now, almost stagnated since two decades and above now
sure they are hardworking to the insanity but their population satisfaction is just...
their lower middle class is absolutely FUBARed, and even for upper middle class the taxes, high cost of lives and their bullshit social stigmatization of many things normal elsewhere while complete normalization of perversion ... they are what i call capitalism gone wrong. And their boomer generation is unforgiving hell causing bunch on their youth due to various reasons.
It's not that japs don't want to breed and multiply...THEY SIMPLY CANNOT THAT EASILY.

Whatever population growth you see there is mostly attributed to japanese suburban and rural classes; their urbanites are quite stretched and they have metropolitical cities like Tokyo, Osaka etc where majority of urbanites live due to bread-butter or in case of japs "gohan" (rice) purposes.

Again their taxes are just unforgiving, property and inheritance taxes straight out take away 50 percent of your wealth so many places are simply abandoned and rotting away, and yet you may find their lower middle class living in tattered places built as economical housing some 40-50 years ago.

And less said about their womenfolk is better, their own govt recorded stats suggest 1 in every 200 japani wimon has had done 'adult videography' in her life. They aren't outright feminatzee yet like ones in SoKorea but they are fairly gone.

Overall there is not much to do in terms of infrastructure there except improvising upon current one.

And oh one important thing, japanese govt is outright liar when they put stats to say that they are above 95 percent "japanese" simply because as per laws there those 'naturalized ones' who's lived more than 7 years there - they are automatically labelled as Japanese even if he's clearly not japanese origin by race or ethnicity. I often give and take and consider at least 5 percent of japanese are ethnically immigrants from other nation - for a population that is not having kids it is good number.

 

[Moroboshi]

Just because Japan doesn't want to breed like rats doesn't make them lazy, Japan is the 4th largest economy, and will hold that title for a long time to come.

Long time??? India is expected to overtake Japan well before the end of this decade.

 

[fooLIam]

they are overinflated economy, their debt to gdp ratio is astronomically high, now must be nearing 300 percent, thanks to all greed that they had cultivated and unkil sam's arm twisting with the plaza accords they are mostly a bubble economy now, almost stagnated since two decades and above now
sure they are hardworking to the insanity but their population satisfaction is just...
their lower middle class is absolutely FUBARed, and even for upper middle class the taxes, high cost of lives and their bullshit social stigmatization of many things normal elsewhere while complete normalization of perversion ... they are what i call capitalism gone wrong. And their boomer generation is unforgiving hell causing bunch on their youth due to various reasons.
It's not that japs don't want to breed and multiply...THEY SIMPLY CANNOT THAT EASILY.

Whatever population growth you see there is mostly attributed to japanese suburban and rural classes; their urbanites are quite stretched and they have metropolitical cities like Tokyo, Osaka etc where majority of urbanites live due to bread-butter or in case of japs "gohan" (rice) purposes.

Again their taxes are just unforgiving, property and inheritance taxes straight out take away 50 percent of your wealth so many places are simply abandoned and rotting away, and yet you may find their lower middle class living in tattered places built as economical housing some 40-50 years ago.

And less said about their womenfolk is better, their own govt recorded stats suggest 1 in every 200 japani wimon has had done 'adult videography' in her life. They aren't outright feminatzee yet like ones in SoKorea but they are fairly gone.

Overall there is not much to do in terms of infrastructure there except improvising upon current one.

And oh one important thing, japanese govt is outright liar when they put stats to say that they are above 95 percent "japanese" simply because as per laws there those 'naturalized ones' who's lived more than 7 years there - they are automatically labelled as Japanese even if he's clearly not japanese origin by race or ethnicity. I often give and take and consider at least 5 percent of japanese are ethnically immigrants from other nation - for a population that is not having kids it is good number.

Can you tell more about “normalization of perversion”.

 

[SKC]

Can you tell more about “normalization of perversion”.

This is not even hidden at this point of time.

I think the whole world has simply accepted the perversion in Japanese and South Korean Society.

Things have normalized:
The office exploitation of Young Women workforce,
over burdening of work on shoulder of young men,
Groping in public places,
stalking girls during evening
Also, came to know about the obsession with Incest in Japan few years back. They have formed many undermarket clubs to enjoy incest!!

 

[Johny_Baba]

Can you tell more about “normalization of perversion”.

summerized in one pic

 

[Tshering22]

Just because Japan doesn't want to breed like rats doesn't make them lazy, Japan is the 4th largest economy and will hold that title for a long time to come.

Actually, they won't be holding that title for long. It's not about their willingness to breed like rats or otherwise. Their work has taken a toll on their minds as well. They are like organic robots and are one of the most depressed countries in the world.

East Asia is highly depressed with rigid rules, a collectivist mindset and a restrictive way of living. Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan and even to a large extent China is facing this problem. It is because these countries do not do things that make things worth living and just go about obsessing over material pursuits.

This has led to awkwardness between the genders and people have forgotten to mingle and live together in a typical way of a family. Japan needs to reverse this trend and enforce harsh punitive rules on their corporations to allow people to spend time together.

What's the use of such wealth when the society breaks down?

 

[1971ftw]

Actually, they won't be holding that title for long. It's not about their willingness to breed like rats or otherwise. Their work has taken a toll on their minds as well. They are like organic robots and are one of the most depressed countries in the world.

They will hold the title in 2030. with fraction of the population, i dont get why a you are even mocking them, japan is infamous for his work and perfectionist culture. A Japanese would be a million times more depressed if they were in india and a indian wold flock to japan given the chance. Japan has lot of problems but no one in theri right mind would trade it for indias problems.

GDP Gross Domestic Product Projections 2000, 2010, 2020, 2030, 2040, geographic.org Courty Profiles - Economy, Geography, Climate, Natural Resources, Current Issues, International Agreements, Population, Social Statistics, Political System, Flags, Maps

East Asia is highly depressed with rigid rules, a collectivist mindset and a restrictive way of living. Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan and even to a large extent China is facing this problem. It is because these countries do not do things that make things worth living and just go about obsessing over material pursuits.

The slow growth has nothing to do with depression, you are literally looking for excuses to shit on them.

FYI India is more depressed than japan :

japan rank	India rank	source
181	106	Most Depressed Countries 2023 - Wisevoter Depression is a global mental health issue that affects individuals to varying degrees across different countries. Some of the most depressed countries include Greece, Spain, Portugal, Palestine, and Tunisia. These countries have depression rates ranging from 6.52% to 5.75%. It is important to... wisevoter.com
4.2%	4.5%	Depression Rates by Country 2023
rank 1 [WHO]	_	India is the most depressed country in the world Here are the countries with the greatest burden of mental and behavioral disorders, in terms of most years of life lost due to disability or death adjusted for population size, according to WHO. www.indiatoday.in

This has led to awkwardness between the genders and people have forgotten to mingle and live together in a typical way of a family.

Developed countries all have lower birth rates as the cost and responsibility of taking care of a child is high, unlike abdul and his 9 puncture shop kids.

Japan needs to reverse this trend and enforce harsh punitive rules on their corporations to allow people to spend time together.

What's the use of such wealth when the society breaks down?

dude india literally still has mini civil wars, you telling me with a straight face people in manipur right now are more happy than people in japan? dont make me pull stats on who far behind we are .

 

[1971ftw]

they are overinflated economy, their debt to gdp ratio is astronomically high, now must be nearing 300 percent, thanks to all greed that they had cultivated and unkil sam's arm twisting with the plaza accords they are mostly a bubble economy now, almost stagnated since two decades and above now

its stagnating because the era of globalization is winding down since 9/11, India entered at the final stage even we grew rapidly in 80-90s.

Japan had debt-gdp ratio over 100% by 1960 itself, even before they started to industrialize, you forget they owe lot of money because of ww2, On Top of that they had to rebuild entire cities with a worn down economy. The fact that japan fought its way out of a financial chock-lock like that is a miracle .

sure they are hardworking to the insanity but their population satisfaction is just...
their lower middle class is absolutely FUBARed, and even for upper middle class the taxes, high cost of lives and their bullshit social stigmatization of many things normal elsewhere while complete normalization of perversion ... they are what i call capitalism gone wrong

thought we were comparing india to japan, no one is denying japan doesn't have problems, i would like to see which heavenly nation has no problems, the fact is these are next to non factor compared to nations like india . try to convince me otherwise, we both know what india is like.

Whatever population growth you see there is mostly attributed to japanese suburban and rural classes; their urbanites are quite stretched and they have metropolitical cities like Tokyo, Osaka etc where majority of urbanites live due to bread-butter or in case of japs "gohan" (rice) purposes.

people dont have kids in devloping countries due to cost and responsibilities , who ever told you they dont date or have relationships are putting a flower in your ear. Japan has the same marriage rate as Germany. its consistent with their decresing population per capita among the developed nations.

List of countries by marriage rate - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Again their taxes are just unforgiving, property and inheritance taxes straight out take away 50 percent of your wealth so many places are simply abandoned and rotting away, and yet you may find their lower middle class living in tattered places built as economical housing some 40-50 years ago.

japan tax rate is 45% German tax rate is 45 UK tax rate is 45%, Its consistent with developed nations

In exchange they get valued services ,
-Universal Healthcare
-Free Education
-Top tier Infrastructure
etc

i would trade places anyday rather than indian government mooching off middle-class salaried employees while millionaires in informal sector are untaxed because it causes riots and election losses. only weak nations without law and order do cowardly shit like this, pick on the politically wekest segment of their vote bank.

And less said about their womenfolk is better, their own govt recorded stats suggest 1 in every 200 japani wimon has had done 'adult videography' in her life.

going to needs source for this buddy.

regardless, Japan is one of the the pillar entertainment capitals of the world, one of which being pornography market. atleast its regulated unlike india where prostituion is legal and in forever limbo state because of how widespread it is so they turn a blind eye.

 

[Tshering22]

They will hold the title in 2030. with a fraction of the population, i don't get why you are even mocking them, japan is infamous for its work and perfectionist culture. A Japanese would be a million times more depressed if they were in India and an Indian would flock to Japan given the chance. Japan has a lot of problems but no one in their right mind would trade it for india's problems.

GDP Gross Domestic Product Projections 2000, 2010, 2020, 2030, 2040, geographic.org Courty Profiles - Economy, Geography, Climate, Natural Resources, Current Issues, International Agreements, Population, Social Statistics, Political System, Flags, Maps

You misunderstand what I said. I am talking about the things that make life worth living is absent in Japan. Most Indians and fellow Asians from emerging countries think that clean roads and skyscrapers are enough to make life great - until they actually visit and start working in Japan.



There are several reasons why I pointed out those things in Japan, one of them being my stay there for a while and interacting with the Indians living there. It's precisely what you say that makes Japan an unattractive place for Indians to stay long-term or settle down, with the exception of a handful of people. You then clearly have not visited Japan and seen how many Indians work there temporarily and return eventually.

Even with all the reforms their government is making, Japan is not an immigrant-friendly country. Despite several cultural borrowings that they have taken from us, their society is vastly different and very, very cold.
You need to understand that the main reason why Indians immigrate is not for asylum or political rights, but simply to make more money and live a better quality of life. The material access to things might be better in Japan but the overall quality of life in Japan is insane due to their perfectionist work culture, rigid society, and practises that ensure that outsiders remain outsiders for life, unlike the West. The small number of Indians who migrate there, see Japan simply like another Dubai, where they can make a quick buck for a while and return.

The slow growth has nothing to do with depression, you are literally looking for excuses to shit on them.

FYI India is more depressed than Japan:

japan rank	India rank	source
181	106	Most Depressed Countries 2023 - Wisevoter Depression is a global mental health issue that affects individuals to varying degrees across different countries. Some of the most depressed countries include Greece, Spain, Portugal, Palestine, and Tunisia. These countries have depression rates ranging from 6.52% to 5.75%. It is important to... wisevoter.com
4.2%	4.5%	Depression Rates by Country 2023
rank 1 [WHO]	_	India is the most depressed country in the world Here are the countries with the greatest burden of mental and behavioral disorders, in terms of most years of life lost due to disability or death adjusted for population size, according to WHO. www.indiatoday.in

Developed countries all have lower birth rates as the cost and responsibility of taking care of a child is high, unlike Abdul and his 9 puncture shop kids.

Take global rankings with a pinch of salt buddy. Most of them are exaggerated to look a certain side of the world better in every aspect. India despite all its social upheavals and chaos, has a much lesser proportion of depressed people; why? Because we get to live our life the way we want - to express ourselves, to make noise, to emote, to dance, to celebrate, to enjoy simple things like rainfall, a small two-day hike to the nearby hill station, etc. These small things are looked down upon in Japanese society and anyone seen as expressive is seen as a rebel and frowned upon. When you get frowned upon in Japan, you get ostracized.

I am not saying that India does not have its flaws. There are a lot of flaws that we have, but an average Indian is happier than an average Japanese. Unless you spend some time in Japan, you won't understand what I am saying.

Dude, India literally still has mini-civil wars, Are you telling me with a straight face people in Manipur right now are happier than people in Japan? Don't make me pull stats on how far behind we are.

Manipur is right in my region and I understand what you are pointing at. In the same vein, there are more civil wars in America, Belgium, Sweden and the UK than in India as well despite being developed countries. Does that mean people don't immigrate there? There are problems in India and these problems are non-existent in Japan.

But when you see the colourless life an average Japanese middle-class man lives versus his counterpart living a financially-limited but happy family life in India, you will see what I am conveying here.

 

[SKC]

They will hold the title in 2030. with fraction of the population, i dont get why a you are even mocking them, japan is infamous for his work and perfectionist culture. A Japanese would be a million times more depressed if they were in india and a indian wold flock to japan given the chance. Japan has lot of problems but no one in theri right mind would trade it for indias problems.

GDP Gross Domestic Product Projections 2000, 2010, 2020, 2030, 2040, geographic.org Courty Profiles - Economy, Geography, Climate, Natural Resources, Current Issues, International Agreements, Population, Social Statistics, Political System, Flags, Maps

The slow growth has nothing to do with depression, you are literally looking for excuses to shit on them.

FYI India is more depressed than japan :

japan rank	India rank	source
181	106	Most Depressed Countries 2023 - Wisevoter Depression is a global mental health issue that affects individuals to varying degrees across different countries. Some of the most depressed countries include Greece, Spain, Portugal, Palestine, and Tunisia. These countries have depression rates ranging from 6.52% to 5.75%. It is important to... wisevoter.com
4.2%	4.5%	Depression Rates by Country 2023
rank 1 [WHO]	_	India is the most depressed country in the world Here are the countries with the greatest burden of mental and behavioral disorders, in terms of most years of life lost due to disability or death adjusted for population size, according to WHO. www.indiatoday.in

Developed countries all have lower birth rates as the cost and responsibility of taking care of a child is high, unlike abdul and his 9 puncture shop kids.




dude india literally still has mini civil wars, you telling me with a straight face people in manipur right now are more happy than people in japan? dont make me pull stats on who far behind we are .

 

[Rango]

This is a now a global problem outside of AfPak and Africa. Stop criticizing Japan. Indian non-Muslims are already below replacement rates. Despite India not even being close to attaining developed country status yet.

 

[SKC]

This is a now a global problem outside of AfPak and Subsaharan Africa. Stop criticizing Japan. Indian non-Muslims are already below replacement rates. Despite not even being close to developed country status yet.

Why stop criticizing Japan???

Why so defensive of them??

They are ruined and the forefront case in the world.

 

[Rango]

To make an opposite argument to my earlier one, the Japanese need relationship and life lessons from the Taliban, Pakis, Rohingyas, Bihari Mullahs, and Congoan and Somali warlords.

 

[1971ftw]

You misunderstand what I said. I am talking about the things that make life worth living is absent in Japan. Most Indians and fellow Asians from emerging countries think that clean roads and skyscrapers are enough to make life great - until they actually visit and start working in Japan.

What makes life worth living is subjective and differs from person to person. you are just expressing your personal bias by littrally genraling a entire country, japan is a wonderful place with wonderful people with its share of problems, its not some black mirror dystopia .

There are several reasons why I pointed out those things in Japan, one of them being my stay there for a while and interacting with the Indians living there. It's precisely what you say that makes Japan an unattractive place for Indians to stay long-term or settle down, with the exception of a handful of people. You then clearly have not visited Japan and seen how many Indians work there temporarily and return eventually.

- If we are talking about Japanese in japan your argument falls flat to outright baseless.

- if we are talking about the 0.000001% of Indians there, ofc they will feel alienated. they have a alien language and customs that are worlds apart from a Indians. it doesnt help that they are xenophobic as most east asians towards dark skinned people.

You need to understand that the main reason why Indians immigrate is not for asylum or political rights, but simply to make more money and live a better quality of life.

you are talking as if there indian immigrants who move to loose money and have shitter quality of life? thats littraly the main reason people immigrate.

The material access to things might be better in Japan but the overall quality of life in Japan is insane due to their perfectionist work culture, rigid society, and practises that ensure that outsiders remain outsiders for life, unlike the West. The small number of Indians who migrate there, see Japan simply like another Dubai, where they can make a quick buck for a while and return.

- You mock Japanese work culture, as if Indian work corporate culture is any better, there is a reason why we are called IT koolies, overworked and underpaid, most dont even pay overtime here, nothing is regulated and west loves exploiting us. And those are the lucky ones according to our society

- Japan is a secluded protectionist anti emigration nation, there are barely brown people any in japan, like most east asia they have a stereotypical view on brown people due to this alienation. I again drag parallels on how this is any diffrent than how Indians in general treat Africans in india.

Take global rankings with a pinch of salt buddy. Most of them are exaggerated to look a certain side of the world better in every aspect. India despite all its social upheavals and chaos, has a much lesser proportion of depressed people; why? Because we get to live our life the way we want - to express ourselves, to make noise, to emote, to dance, to celebrate, to enjoy simple things like rainfall, a small two-day hike to the nearby hill station, etc. These small things are looked down upon in Japanese society and anyone seen as expressive is seen as a rebel and frowned upon. When you get frowned upon in Japan, you get ostracized.

so throw any statistics to the bin and trust your word for it? India doesn't even address mental issues, its culturally shunned and hidden. Japan has deep culture , tradition and vibrant lifestyle ,your personal bias again doesn't dictate how they feel or what they do. And i am being biased speaking as a RW indian, a Japanese could cook up a million reasons why japan is better than india based on his or hers lifestyles bias.

I am not saying that India does not have its flaws. There are a lot of flaws that we have, but an average Indian is happier than an average Japanese. Unless you spend some time in Japan, you won't understand what I am saying.

you cook up baked allegations and refuse multiple sources dating from decades of research from multiple groups only to justify your people are better than others with nothing but words to back it up. lets see your sources i would love to read it, its half the reason i come here. do shere where you got the story how 1 in 200 Japanese women are porn starts to.

Manipur is right in my region and I understand what you are pointing at. In the same vein, there are more civil wars in America, Belgium, Sweden and the UK than in India as well despite being developed countries. Does that mean people don't immigrate there? There are problems in India and these problems are non-existent in Japan.

what civil war ? in this century? wtf lol buddy im not a foreigner as a indian i know your POV is bs, im not some NRI to impress, i grew up boiling water for baths and cooking with wood for years because the goverment was too corrupt to push papers, we arent even poor. this is in the 90s , hell half my neighborhood was demonized and fled for weeks because it was the fuking government doing it for inter state politics.